PROTEST AT HONDA OF ESCONDIDO (3rd gear problems)

[laughoutlloyd8]

uhh...ok...

[felon187]

dude,where is all the people that were complaining about their trannys in the last forums?

[mischief316]

You know, i agree and disagree. To be honest you sound like a scary person who is very pissed off. Makes me not wanna go to your protest for that reason. Maybe i'll show up and take two shirts instead of one, and end up getting my ass kick by you. Anyway you make this sound like a personal issue instead of a general issue. You going out there to represent the people and more power to you, but don't make it sound like its all about you.

And i agree simply cuz honda is not doing what they need to do with it comes to problems. My local dealer has been nice with me and taken care of what ever prolems i've had so far. I just don't get how come people can be all over honda's balls and stand behind them 100%. We live in coporate america. Honda doesn't give a sh1t about you just like any other billion dollar corp here. They are in it to make money. UR MONEY. Your right they should fix your car under warranty. You're paying for it right? I mean when you buy a car you pay in full for a complete working car. I know some say BS nothing is perfect. Right, so then my monthly statement should say $350 due, minus $100 for all the faulty sh1t it has. I bet no company would like that. They want the full payment just like you want a full working car.

GOOD LUCK!!!

[Tsume]

Originally Posted by mischief316

You know, i agree and disagree. To be honest you sound like a scary person who is very pissed off. Makes me not wanna go to your protest for that reason. Maybe i'll show up and take two shirts instead of one, and end up getting my ass kick by you. Anyway you make this sound like a personal issue instead of a general issue. You going out there to represent the people and more power to you, but don't make it sound like its all about you.

Hey man sorry if it sounds like that. The problem is the same or similar to everyone's, and I'm trying to represent more than just 1 lemon car here.

I will be pushing the car to the dealer's lot and using that car chalk stuff to write lemony things all over it for everyone to see.

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by Tsume

Guess Miami is different then. Works here every time. It's not that it benefits mainly myself. I'm sure if they decline to right the wrong before I start they will do it right away after a protest. It will degrade their image and hurt their bottom line, even if you don't think it will. That's what matters to me right now since they've refused to fix the problem.

For what it's worth, I have not asked for refunds on those 2 clutches. I just want this car fixed correctly under warranty and they refuse to do that. I can accept a loss of a few grand but when that loss doesn't fix the problem it's quite irritating.

you live in miami... dude go to maroone of hollywood theyll take care of you.

[Firestrife]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

you live in miami... dude go to maroone of hollywood theyll take care of you.

YES they do thats where i bought my car they are an awesome dealership. The Op does not live in Miami unfortunately.

[mattsbobo]

I don't know what to say. Clearly the OP is pissed about his third gear, and i know a lot of other members on the 8th are too. I mean look at all the names on this list: The "I have a 3rd gear problem" List , and that's just the list from the 8th.

I've got the third gear issue, and it's the ONE, thing that I absolutely hate about my car. I can forgive them for cheaping out on the paint, but this is a mechanical problem, of a major component of the car, that they've known about for years. With the 6sp Accords, S2K's, RSX's, and now the Civic.

I understand what the OP is trying to do. What will it accomplish? Who knows. I hope he posts up the results after it's over. I agree with some of the other posters. Honda has a million lawyers at their beck, and call, and this will be a hard cause to push. Honda is a billion dollar corporation, who should care more about the people who have made them the company they are today. i know my Mom has had 5 Hondas going all the way back to 1978. I've had 3 Hondas myself.

I wish we still lived in a world where the corporations we made rich still cared about customer service. I still haven't found one dealership that will admit to the third gear issue. Hell, I haven't even found a dealeship that knows about the magical new Honda MTF that they're supposed to know about.

Good luck with the protest. I hope nobody gets arrested. It's agood start I suppose, but I really think it will take something like a Class Action Suit to get Honda to hear what anybody has to say.

OP: Please post back up after the protest. I'm interested in hearing what happens.

Good Luck! You will definitely need it

[GeezerSi]

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[mischief316]

Originally Posted by Tsume

Hey man sorry if it sounds like that. The problem is the same or similar to everyone's, and I'm trying to represent more than just 1 lemon car here.

I will be pushing the car to the dealer's lot and using that car chalk stuff to write lemony things all over it for everyone to see.

Well I don't think your car is a lemon, but I understand the message you are trying to put out there. what time are you going to be there?

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Tsume

Hey man sorry if it sounds like that. The problem is the same or similar to everyone's, and I'm trying to represent more than just 1 lemon car here.

I will be pushing the car to the dealer's lot and using that car chalk stuff to write lemony things all over it for everyone to see.

Are you pushing it to the dealer as a statement or does it not drive?

What was the reason they gave for replacing the clutches each time? Did they even try to explain how or why the clutch was causing the problem? If the clutch was the original problem and continued to be the problem wouldn't they have to make it right because they put it in to begin with?

I am just curious as to why they would replace the clutch numerous times for the same problem unless the clutch was damaged, worn, etc.

[felon187]

I told my service guy about changing the oil, and he left me a voicemail saying that it is "not recommended by honda". A month later, my car got f'd up. Now they want me to pay for the repair and the whole time I was telling them to please fix my third gear problem and they never "could duplicate" the problem.

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by Firestrife

YES they do thats where i bought my car they are an awesome dealership. The Op does not live in Miami unfortunately.

I miss read the quote then....

[BigT]

Originally Posted by felon187

I told my service guy about changing the oil, and he left me a voicemail saying that it is "not recommended by honda". A month later, my car got f'd up. Now they want me to pay for the repair and the whole time I was telling them to please fix my third gear problem and they never "could duplicate" the problem.

What happened to your car (f'd up)? If a problem currently exists that they can "duplicate" what is the reason they are giving for wanting you to pay for it?

[felon187]

Originally Posted by mischief316

Well I don't think your car is a lemon, but I understand the message you are trying to put out there. what time are you going to be there?

I dont think anyones car is a lemon either. The main point is Honda made faulty trannys. When will they recall it?I give this dude props cause he is probably gonna make that dealership lose some sales on the day he protests. Sounds like his service department and dealership were jerks like mine.If it cant hurt Corporate ,at least it will hurt the small guy (dealership). Maybe if it does get to the media,more people will come forward with more complaints. The more complaints,especiallt to the National Highway Transportation Safety.....the more chance of a recall.Im sure there is a lot more people out there with the same problems that have not said anything.

[felon187]

Originally Posted by BigT

What happened to your car (f'd up)? If a problem currently exists that they can "duplicate" what is the reason they are giving for wanting you to pay for it?

they are saying I burned out the clutch,after I went about half a dozen times telling the guy the gear was popping out and he told me I must be racing the car cause Im just some young kid-im 26 by the way

[felon187]

Originally Posted by BigT

What happened to your car (f'd up)? If a problem currently exists that they can "duplicate" what is the reason they are giving for wanting you to pay for it?

oops...."couldnt duplicate"

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by felon187

they are saying I burned out the clutch,after I went about half a dozen times telling the guy the gear was popping out and he told me I must be racing the car cause Im just some young kid-im 26 by the way

Your clutch is not going to wear, from poping out of gear..... anyways never had a problem with my tranny, sure its notchy in some gears but that is not a problem. Name a manual transmission that is smooth as butter, and i will bend over and kiss yur arse =)

Im willing to bet that 5% of the people bitching actually have a "REAL" tranny problem, 20% are trolls, and 75% think they have a problem cause it dont go smoothly through the gates(which is not a faulty trans) every honda i owned had a notchy trans. My Z33 has a notchy transmisson, and clunks into 1st from nautral, with clucth engaged

Cheers

[BigT]

This is the first time I have heard of a dealer saying it is a clutch problem.

I guess it is strange to me that you would ok losing in your words "a few grand" to replace multiple clutches that were fine. If they found the problem and fixed it under warranty I would want my few grand back.

Don't get me wrong, I am just trying to understand the whole story. Here is an example of what you are saying. Imagine I took my car in because if a clunking noise. They replace a part under warranty and I go on my way. The problem is still there so I go back. They say they want to replace the same exact part (which didn't fix the problem last time) only they are going to charge me for it. I pay them and go on my way. The problem remains. I go back and they tell me they are going to agian replace the same exact part which twice has failed to correct the problem. Again I pay for it and go on my way. ??

[Zeuceone]

good luck with your protest. at least someone is stepping up to the plate and not just posting how they will get honda back. +1. i would go but thats like 50 3rd gear grinds to far.

[wing_gundam]

Originally Posted by Tsume

Honda of America flat out told me they never heard of the transmission problem the last time I spoke with them. I spoke with Gerald Jackson in Torrance, CA I believe.


To everyone: The main point of my protest is either to scare the dealer into making things right like they should have in the first place instead of trying to shaft me on my new car, or give that dealer and Honda in general for not disowning that dealer a horribly negative media image, at least locally. I've spoken with FOX 6 here already.

Originally Posted by Tsume

Damn you must live in a weird part of the country. Most people would not lose their job over that. It's also not copyright infringement, the same way that a big red X over a Vons or Albertsons logo on a picket sign is not copyright infringement.

It's not just about MY car. If I go there in the morning and they still refuse to fix it, even if they fix it after that I'm going to push for more media attention until everyone knows how long it took them to admit their fault. Every news station has the "consumer guy" and no matter what you think, a lot of people pay attention to that kind of thing the same way people read consumer report.

As said earlier, in order for the clutch (which isn't really the problem here, it's the tranny but they keep wanting to change the clutch) to go bad at only 2k miles, the rest of the car would have some damage to show for it. At 10k miles now if I were driving so horribly, wouldn't the tires be pretty screwed over too? Think about it for just a second okay?

There are already people coming and I posted here to get more people who have this issue in the area to show up and be vocal about it.

Orr... you can just be a wuss and take the 2 grand repair bill up the ass. Your choice!

It's all intersting and flashy but you have to ask yourself 1 question:

Do I feel lucky?








No really, you have to ask yourself - Is this newsworthy? No, but will this sell papers?




Good luck, but don't expect Honda to disassociate with the dealership, nor for the GM to come out crying and offer you an NSX as compensation for your troubles.