PROTEST AT HONDA OF ESCONDIDO (3rd gear problems)

[NewbTuner]

Originally Posted by Tsume

That's a good idea! However, I doubt the Honda dealer would reimburse me for the expense of that camera after they were proven wrong. They are really nickel and diming it here.

Now i hate to get into these battles because quite frankley it doesnt concern me. But lets play devils advocate here for a moment and take a step back and look at your actions.

You go through 3 clutches so you want Honda to reimburse you for the cost of the parts and labor.

You expect people to come help you protest and sit outside a dealership with you so you can get YOUR car fixed.

You don't want to invest the money into a possible solution but you expect for them to just take your word for you hand fork over a solution that requires nothing on your part.

People aren't going to be that keen to protest, you would have better luck with a petition or something.

Its 2008 people don't want their face on the news while standing outside of a honda dealership wearing a shirt with a lemon on it (i wonder if you can get sued for making those shirts with the honda logo on it..copywrite infringment?). Im sure some people could lose their job in some situations if they were seen out there doing that. I personally would never tarnish my image by doing such a thing.

Just my input.

[carlo_amacio]

Originally Posted by Tsume

I'll keep you posted and if you had to fix it yourself they owe you money, even if you never see it. They still owe you. Steal a bunch of the free water bottles in their lobby for a year to make it back.

Welcome BTW

[nayilsi]

have fun with the chevy and ford guys......at the protest

[Firestrife]

personally i think your didnt tackle it properly and expected Honda to know what was wrong. You should have researched the 3rd gear issue its been on for such a long time that those 2 times that you paid to have your clutch replaced you could have focused on changing the tranny fluid or tackling the issue at hand. but im sorry those two times that you paid out of pocket is nothing but your own fault.
Information is a powerful tool. Research on the internet theres tons of information and more likely someone else in the entire world has a similar issue, or knows what the problem is.

[Tsume]

Originally Posted by NewbTuner

Now i hate to get into these battles because quite frankley it doesnt concern me. But lets play devils advocate here for a moment and take a step back and look at your actions.

You go through 3 clutches so you want Honda to reimburse you for the cost of the parts and labor.

You expect people to come help you protest and sit outside a dealership with you so you can get YOUR car fixed.

You don't want to invest the money into a possible solution but you expect for them to just take your word for you hand fork over a solution that requires nothing on your part.

People aren't going to be that keen to protest, you would have better luck with a petition or something.

Its 2008 people don't want their face on the news while standing outside of a honda dealership wearing a shirt with a lemon on it (i wonder if you can get sued for making those shirts with the honda logo on it..copywrite infringment?). Im sure some people could lose their job in some situations if they were seen out there doing that. I personally would never tarnish my image by doing such a thing.

Just my input.

Damn you must live in a weird part of the country. Most people would not lose their job over that. It's also not copyright infringement, the same way that a big red X over a Vons or Albertsons logo on a picket sign is not copyright infringement.

It's not just about MY car. If I go there in the morning and they still refuse to fix it, even if they fix it after that I'm going to push for more media attention until everyone knows how long it took them to admit their fault. Every news station has the "consumer guy" and no matter what you think, a lot of people pay attention to that kind of thing the same way people read consumer report.

As said earlier, in order for the clutch (which isn't really the problem here, it's the tranny but they keep wanting to change the clutch) to go bad at only 2k miles, the rest of the car would have some damage to show for it. At 10k miles now if I were driving so horribly, wouldn't the tires be pretty screwed over too? Think about it for just a second okay?

There are already people coming and I posted here to get more people who have this issue in the area to show up and be vocal about it.

Orr... you can just be a wuss and take the 2 grand repair bill up the ass. Your choice!

[Tsume]

Originally Posted by Firestrife

personally i think your didnt tackle it properly and expected Honda to know what was wrong. You should have researched the 3rd gear issue its been on for such a long time that those 2 times that you paid to have your clutch replaced you could have focused on changing the tranny fluid or tackling the issue at hand. but im sorry those two times that you paid out of pocket is nothing but your own fault.
Information is a powerful tool. Research on the internet theres tons of information and more likely someone else in the entire world has a similar issue, or knows what the problem is.

It ain't my job to research the problem, it's theirs. That's what a service bay is for, that's what mechanics are for, and that's what a warranty is for. If they thought it was the clutch all those times and they could have looked up online in 2 seconds and realized it was not, their fault. I don't pay that much for a "nice" car to get crap service from people who don't know their head from their a$$ when dealing with a faulty transmission. I expected more and I believe this was reasonable.

[Firestrife]

Dont you know dealers make a killing off their service department. You got suckered into paying for two clutches. after the first change I would have researched it before I blindly paid for something. A little bit of research could have saved you a lot of money and time.
They are supposed to know whats wrong but they still want to make money. Service departments can be misleading, too.
I dont want to keep arguing this up do what you want but I think there was so many things you could have done to prevent having to come down to protesting something for a cause that benefits mainly yourself.
People protest all the time in Miami and get no media coverage so good luck with that.

[Exeon]

haha protest...

[NewbTuner]

I am sure if you worked in a grocery store you would not have to worry about losing your job, if you hold any position of power i think it would be a conflict of intrest.

Are you supplying food or anything? If so i might come out there.

[NewbTuner]

Sorry to keep posting i just came up with a great idea,

Im going to get a costume made that looks like an inflateable civic, the entire time your protesting i will crawl around and make grinding noises. (this should attract kids to the cause too, they like things like that)

[laughoutlloyd8]

i don't think this is a good idea, they'll just call the local cops and you will go to jail...

[Tsume]

Originally Posted by laughoutlloyd8

i don't think this is a good idea, they'll just call the local cops and you will go to jail...

Protesting is not illegal as long as it is peaceful. Where do you live?

[Tsume]

Originally Posted by NewbTuner

Sorry to keep posting i just came up with a great idea,

Im going to get a costume made that looks like an inflateable civic, the entire time your protesting i will crawl around and make grinding noises. (this should attract kids to the cause too, they like things like that)

LOL!!!!

I will have free shirts and that's all.

Of course there is free water bottles and coffee in the Honda lobby...

[Tsume]

Originally Posted by Firestrife

Dont you know dealers make a killing off their service department. You got suckered into paying for two clutches. after the first change I would have researched it before I blindly paid for something. A little bit of research could have saved you a lot of money and time.
They are supposed to know whats wrong but they still want to make money. Service departments can be misleading, too.
I dont want to keep arguing this up do what you want but I think there was so many things you could have done to prevent having to come down to protesting something for a cause that benefits mainly yourself.
People protest all the time in Miami and get no media coverage so good luck with that.

Guess Miami is different then. Works here every time. It's not that it benefits mainly myself. I'm sure if they decline to right the wrong before I start they will do it right away after a protest. It will degrade their image and hurt their bottom line, even if you don't think it will. That's what matters to me right now since they've refused to fix the problem.

For what it's worth, I have not asked for refunds on those 2 clutches. I just want this car fixed correctly under warranty and they refuse to do that. I can accept a loss of a few grand but when that loss doesn't fix the problem it's quite irritating.

[felon187]

I had the same problem and the dealership said a video was not good enough

[felon187]

Originally Posted by NewbTuner

Now i hate to get into these battles because quite frankley it doesnt concern me. But lets play devils advocate here for a moment and take a step back and look at your actions.

You go through 3 clutches so you want Honda to reimburse you for the cost of the parts and labor.

You expect people to come help you protest and sit outside a dealership with you so you can get YOUR car fixed.

You don't want to invest the money into a possible solution but you expect for them to just take your word for you hand fork over a solution that requires nothing on your part.

People aren't going to be that keen to protest, you would have better luck with a petition or something.

Its 2008 people don't want their face on the news while standing outside of a honda dealership wearing a shirt with a lemon on it (i wonder if you can get sued for making those shirts with the honda logo on it..copywrite infringment?). Im sure some people could lose their job in some situations if they were seen out there doing that. I personally would never tarnish my image by doing such a thing.

Just my input.

I think what he is trying to say is that Honda kept denying that there was a problem,just like my dealership,they left me with no choice but to pay out of pocket because if I were to take it to an independent dealer the waranty may be voided and I had already contacted Honda North America and was bs'd around.....I will be at the protest because what he is saying is completely true,Honda is just sweeping consumer complaints under the rug and hoping people will just deal with it in their own way

[felon187]

Originally Posted by laughoutlloyd8

i don't think this is a good idea, they'll just call the local cops and you will go to jail...

uh sorry,you are wrong,that is Freedom of Speech.....the city has no problem with it,at least not Escondido

[NewbTuner]

^7 post and joined in 2008.. hmm somethings fishy.

either way, even though i think its foolish and there may be other ways of handeling your problems i do wish you guys the best of luck and thank you guys for going out there and tanking a stand. Be safe and enjoy.

Also if you stand on honda property cant they just get you for trespassing?

[laughoutlloyd8]

ohh my bad, not jail, i meant to say executed.....yeah, very dangerous























lmao, take some pictures!

[felon187]

Originally Posted by laughoutlloyd8

i don't think this is a good idea, they'll just call the local cops and you will go to jail...

Originally Posted by NewbTuner

^7 post and joined in 2008.. hmm somethings fishy.

either way, even though i think its foolish and there may be other ways of handeling your problems i do wish you guys the best of luck and thank you guys for going out there and tanking a stand. Be safe and enjoy.

Also if you stand on honda property cant they just get you for trespassing?

???whatever?anyways,I have joined cause i was frustrated with my SI and wanted to input my opinion concerning the "SI"-SHIT INTEGRATED ! I Love my honda,but for 25k I wish it ran properly