Do you have difficulty doing heel and toe on your 8th SI?

[kekekekevin]

It's my 3rd week already, and I still cannot do the heel and toe as smoothly as I did on my CRX. The gas padel is way too low compared to the brake padel. any suggestion?

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by kekekekevin

It's my 3rd week already, and I still cannot do the heel and toe as smoothly as I did on my CRX. The gas padel is way too low compared to the brake padel. any suggestion?

its hard for me as well, but because the brake and gas are very far apart, even my size 12s dont make it.

another thing is that they really do just barley make it but the accelerator is flimsy and is able to wiggle side to side.
when i barley get it with my shoe on it it just moves out of the way.

[habitat]

I also have difficulty, I wear driving styled shoes which are very slim and in order to heel and toe, I actually have to use my heel as opposed to the right side of my right foot. I actually purchased an extended pedal and will post a DIY when it arrives. The company I purchased it from agreed to offer free shipping to our forum if I can setup a group buy. It should come on Friday.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by habitat

I also have difficulty, I wear driving styled shoes which are very slim and in order to heel and toe, i actually have to use my heel as opposed to the right side of my right foot. I actually purchased an extended pedal and will post a diy when it arrives.

i have been wanting a pedal extension let me know what you got if its any good.

[kekekekevin]

yea..make sure you post a thread after your installation and take some pictures too. too bad there is no padel adjustment. Am I right?

[portabuddy]

ha no prob here, i keep my heel right under the brake, and just rotate, my toe hits the middle of the pegle with no prob. but i drive in high top 16hole army atile steel toed boots.... and i have a canoe sized 13 for a foot, so that helps.


so i either drive in my boots or bare foot... NP's here.

[habitat]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

i have been wanting a pedal extension let me know what you got if its any good.

It's actually a whole replacement pedal that is much wider on the left side. Installation will include drilling out the factory rivets, then swap and bolt. I will post something in the DIY forum this Sunday :)


Added a picture:

[mattsbobo]

Good find

[dil2502]

should make for better

[Zeuceone]

Originally Posted by habitat

I also have difficulty, I wear driving styled shoes which are very slim and in order to heel and toe, I actually have to use my heel as opposed to the right side of my right foot. I actually purchased an extended pedal and will post a DIY when it arrives. The company I purchased it from agreed to offer free shipping to our forum if I can setup a group buy. It should come on Friday.

they would have to become sponsors for that to happen.

[Mitch]

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I can do with size 9 Chuck Taylors. I do it with the left and right sides of my foot, pivoting at the ankle.

[Taff7Si]

HT shouldn't be a problem. Try these tips:

1. Anchor your heel at the base of the gas pedal.
2. When braking, rotate your toes in a counterclockwise position (while keeping ankle at base of gas pedal), and press on the right half of the brake pedal with the left ball of your foot to initiate braking.
3. Roll foot over to the right (outside of your foot should be depressing the gas pedal at the moment) to blip the gas. At this point, your foot should be touching 3 places: heel at base of gas pedal, leftside of the ball of your foot depressing the right side of the brake pedal, and the right outside of your foot should be hitting the gas pedal.
4. Mind the rev hang: If your A/C isn't on, then your revs will hang once you blipped it to the correct RPM for the lower gear. Pause a split second before releasing the clutch (can release right away if A/C is off, or the car hasn't warmed up yet).
5. Shoe size: The wider the shoe the better. If you have a narrow shoe, like a puma driving shoe, you have to press the brake pedal down further (more braking) in order to line your foot up with the gas pedal. So for around town driving, I suggest a wide shoe that has a thin sole.

Hope this helps.

[Nomar06]

Correct me if Im wrong but its called Heel and toe and not Heel and side of foot. If you actually HEEL and toe you shouldn have an issue.

[strutking]

not at all

[habitat]

Originally Posted by Nomar06

Correct me if Im wrong but its called Heel and toe and not Heel and side of foot. If you actually HEEL and toe you shouldn have an issue.

Although traditionally called Heel and Toe, even racing drivers use ball of foot (below the big toe) and right side of foot (upper to mid section). If you've ever tried to actually use your heel and toe, you'll notice it is much more difficult to achieve steady braking when you need to bend your ankle so far that your heel touches the throttle.

[habitat]

Originally Posted by Taff7Si

HT shouldn't be a problem. Try these tips:

1. Anchor your heel at the base of the gas pedal.
2. When braking, rotate your toes in a counterclockwise position (while keeping ankle at base of gas pedal), and press on the right half of the brake pedal with the left ball of your foot to initiate braking.
3. Roll foot over to the right (outside of your foot should be depressing the gas pedal at the moment) to blip the gas. At this point, your foot should be touching 3 places: heel at base of gas pedal, leftside of the ball of your foot depressing the right side of the brake pedal, and the right outside of your foot should be hitting the gas pedal.

Hope this helps.

Wow, you must have big feet. I can not do this. My procedure has always been

1. use big toe or ball of right foot to brake
2. swivel foot (counterclockwise) if needed so that the right part of foot can blip the throttle
3. shift
4. rotate right foot clockwise and move in a rightward direction to slip off the brakes and stomp on the throttle

and not

1. Brake while bliping
2. blip again
3. shift
4. gas

Also my foot is almost always floating between the brake and gas pedal which is counter intuitive to the floor hinged throttle found in our civics.

[e60.deluxe]

Originally Posted by Mitch

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I can do with size 9 Chuck Taylors. I do it with the left and right sides of my foot, pivoting at the ankle.

the problem i have with this method is that my size 12's and being 6'3'" dont allow me to pivot. being this tall my legs fall in a different position that shorter people because the knees are bent more. another problem is that the distance from the ball of my foot to my heel is greater, and when im braking and try to pivot my heel hits the floor and the floor stops it from moving over enough. if i raise my entire leg so that it would clear now my knees hit the steering wheel. if the car had a deep footwell i suppose i could do it, but its not something you see in FWD cars..

Originally Posted by Nomar06

Correct me if Im wrong but its called Heel and toe and not Heel and side of foot. If you actually HEEL and toe you shouldn have an issue.

thats a misnomer from the days of old when cars often had the gas in the middle and brakes on the right.

Originally Posted by habitat

Although traditionally called Heel and Toe, even racing drivers use ball of foot (below the big toe) and right side of foot (upper to mid section). If you've ever tried to actually use your heel and toe, you'll notice it is much more difficult to achieve steady braking when you need to bend your ankle so far that your heel touches the throttle.

agreed.

[Taff7Si]

Originally Posted by habitat

Wow, you must have big feet. I can not do this.

I'm 6' tall and wear size 10 shoes.

Everybody can give this a try on their drive home tonight and see if this works for you:

use ball of right foot to depress (1/3 to 1/2 way down) right half of brake pedal, while anchoring right heel at base of gas pedal. When you brake this way, your foot should be hitting the gas pedal if you just roll it over to the right.

[Taff7Si]

Originally Posted by e60.deluxe

the problem i have with this method is that my size 12's and being 6'3'" dont allow me to pivot.

I feel your pain. I think you just have to move the seat back and sacrifice a bit of reach to the steering wheel, or move seat back + sitmore upright for better reach to wheel + open the sunroof

[thephenom]

Originally Posted by Taff7Si

I'm 6' tall and wear size 10 shoes.

Everybody can give this a try on their drive home tonight and see if this works for you:

use ball of right foot to depress (1/3 to 1/2 way down) right half of brake pedal, while anchoring right heel at base of gas pedal. When you brake this way, your foot should be hitting the gas pedal if you just roll it over to the right.

This works for me as well only when I'm lazy, but I find it ackward because sometimes my foot would hit the gas pedal if I step on the brake deeper than gas peddle. (Usually I'm in neutral or with clutch in) So I just stick with heel and toe with the heel toward the lower part of the gas paddle.