Mugen 3rd gear problems?

[Si_Sedan_Fan]

Just curious. I'd like to get some feedback from the Mugen owners. Any problems seen yet with 3rd gear? Just wondering if the Mugen is going to have the same problem with the tranny that we've seen in our Si's.

[MutantCheese]

Why wouldn't they? It's the same Transmission isn't it?

[Skipper]

Yeah, its gonna be hit or miss with the mugens just as it is with the SI's. Some will have it, some wont.

[Si_Sedan_Fan]

Originally Posted by MutantCheese

Why wouldn't they? It's the same Transmission isn't it?

Thats what I was thinking. Same tranny. Just wondered if maybe Honda tweaked it so some dude that just bought a $30,000 limited edition car didnt have to have the same aggrivation that the guy with the 21,000 mass produced veh does.

[dobiejoe]

Originally Posted by Si_Sedan_Fan

Thats what I was thinking. Same tranny. Just wondered if maybe Honda tweaked it so some dude that just bought a $30,000 limited edition car didnt have to have the same aggrivation that the guy with the 21,000 mass produced veh does.

It still a mass production vehicle. just some diff parts like body kit, suspension, and stickers. Everything else comes out of the same parts bin.

[finallymanual]

I was lucky enough that i still haven't experienced any grinding, pop, or other sound from the 3rd gear (knock on wood)

[tite681]

Originally Posted by finallymanual

I was lucky enough that i still haven't experienced any grinding, pop, or other sound from the 3rd gear (knock on wood)

Same here. I honestly think that some trannies are built better than others. Maybe a few tranny builders came to work hung over.

[Si_Sedan_Fan]

Yeah, stay away for the trannies built on a friday afternoon. lol

[HTX]

si's r limited production as well to an extent.... not as limited as the mugen's but they do have a set number of si's they produce. the mugen si's are going to have the same problems as the other si's the only difference is stuff that says "mugen" all over it which is only cosmetic parts so all your other typical problems will be in tact.

[DanDB64]

They may not... Ever since I installed my short shifter, my 3rd gear problem went away, and there is a member on this site that can back that up... Mugens come with a short shifter, so maybe they dont... This is just going off of my personal experience though, and I am probably wrong

[Special Ringpop]

Originally Posted by tite681

Same here. I honestly think that some trannies are built better than others. Maybe a few tranny builders came to work hung over.

If so, Honda must have employed a TON of AA rejects for these cars, because it seems far more people have tranny problems than not.

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by DanDB64

They may not... Ever since I installed my short shifter, my 3rd gear problem went away, and there is a member on this site that can back that up... Mugens come with a short shifter, so maybe they dont... This is just going off of my personal experience though, and I am probably wrong

Short shifters are bad on the syncros. The faster you shift,the faster your input shaft is spining when next gear is engaged, and the syncro gets chewed up that much faster...

[User_name:]

Originally Posted by DanDB64

They may not... Ever since I installed my short shifter, my 3rd gear problem went away, and there is a member on this site that can back that up... Mugens come with a short shifter, so maybe they dont... This is just going off of my personal experience though, and I am probably wrong

The faster you shift,the faster your input shaft is spining when next gear is engaged, and the syncro gets chewed up that much faster...

[kj973]

Originally Posted by User_name:

The faster you shift,the faster your input shaft is spining when next gear is engaged, and the syncro gets chewed up that much faster...

[soxfan]

Originally Posted by User_name:

Short shifters are bad on the syncros. The faster you shift,the faster your input shaft is spining when next gear is engaged, and the syncro gets chewed up that much faster...

sorry, but I don't see how that makes any sense. how does an input shaft spin? not claiming to be an expert, and not trying to be a dik, but I'd like a better explanation. by the way, my ss and bushings seemed to have cleared up my grinding problem too.

[Special Ringpop]

User_name has a bit of a point, at least in Honda's eyes.

One of the Honda Service News Bulletins they release every month mentioned that if a customer was complaining about gear related issues (included third gear) that the tech needs to watch and make sure they aren't skip shifting. If they are skip shifting, they don't have to do any warranty work on the Si because the car isn't "equipped" to deal with skip shifts and it damages it.

[J-Ro]

The Mugen Si is an Si sedan, period. Therefore any problems that exist with the Si sedan will also exist with the Mugen Si.

[tonyv107]

Originally Posted by J-Ro

The Mugen Si is an Si sedan, period. Therefore any problems that exist with the Si sedan will also exist with the Mugen Si.

although i think a typical Mugen owner might drive his car more aggressively then a standard Si owner ( just a guess ), which could possibly lead to more wear and tear over time. But since there are a small amount of Mugens on the market the post count of Mugen 3rd gear problems will be relatively low.

[Zeuceone]

to the 2 top post.

[Solo2EG]

Originally Posted by J-Ro

The Mugen Si is an Si sedan, period. Therefore any problems that exist with the Si sedan will also exist with the Mugen Si.

They just pluck some blue ones off the line every once in awhile to throw the Moogen goodies onto so they can charge that extra few thousand bucks...

And the Mugen doesn't have a short shifter, just a shift knob...