not sure if this is the infamous grind...

SIcivic07 · 12-09-2007, 12:03 AM

well, havent had any problems shifting into 2nd, nor 3rd...MAYBE into 3rd every so often, but not enough to bother me...now, the only time i hear something iffy is when the car is cold..after it sits over night, or even for a half hour, ill shift into 2nd gear, and at about 2800rpm, i will hear a "grind" sound...i dont shift, i dont press the clutch pedal, this happens as im driving...however, if ill shift into 3rd before i hit 2800rpm in 2nd hear, the grind will happen around the same in 3rd as well...BUT this only happens once, right after i start up the car...after it happens once, i get nothing!...what can this be?!

***CaliGuy*** · 12-09-2007, 12:05 AM

That is not the infamous grind...that is NOT cool...Take it to the dealer...

08blacex · 12-09-2007, 12:43 PM

mine will only do it the first 2 shifts into 3rd then it seems when the fluid is warm and a different thickness it wont do it.

Leonard1818 · 12-10-2007, 05:54 PM

I think what he's saying is that he gets a grind after shifting... once he's already in gear.

Let's say he shifts from 1st --> 2nd and it lands at 1000rpm, he lets of the clutch and the rpm's climb... once they hit 2800, he hears a grind.

Is this correct or am I just misreading?

SIcivic07 · 12-10-2007, 10:05 PM

youre right...ill already be in gear, driving, only on the gas as the RPMs climb..once they hit 2800rpm est. in 2nd gear..."grinnddd"...i mean it only lasts about a second, if that..but wtf?!

ssoh87 · 12-10-2007, 10:28 PM

is it a loud grinding, or more like clicking?

SIcivic07 · 12-11-2007, 10:22 PM

well it doesnt sound exactly like a gear grind, but thats what i can closely compare it to, its not really a clicking...nothing comes to mind to compare the sound to at the moment..but as far as loudness, its not THAT loud..if i have the radio on, i can barely hear it, but when its off, its veryyy clear.

markodarko · 12-11-2007, 11:52 PM

I have an 01 ex coupe with manual transmission (just bought an 08 sedan at) that does a similar sound. A rattle sound right? In the 7th gen usually 01 and 02 models there was an input shaft bearing in the manual transmission models that doesn't hold up well. I have heard of some people hearing the rattling around 60k miles on those models but mine didn't start til around 100k (at 130k now). The sound only got worse. I have been told it is because that bearing breaks apart and it is in the center of the transmission meaning its almost worth it to replace or rebuild the transmission. The sound on my 01 got worse but it still operates fine. I will be replacing the transmission with a rebuilt 05 transmission soon but I have my 08 now so I am not too worried. It was always around 2800 rpms. If you put your car in neutral and let out your clutch does it sound a lot different? I hope this isn't the same problem since I just bought an 8th gen (but I got at this time if that makes a difference, i'm no tranmission wiz).

ssoh87 · 12-12-2007, 03:05 AM

i may know what ur talking about SIcivic07. ive had the same sound coming from my fa5 si. i noticed the sound at the same rpms but only when im at about half throttle or more. and when i took it in the first time, they said it was spark knocking cuz my dumbass put in 85 octane. i switched to 91 and have put in 91 for months now and it still noticeable sometimes. i took it in again and they told me "your car's running great!!" aka we're not gonna help you. but i would suggest taking it into the dealer and have one of the service techs go on a ride with you so you can show them exactly whats goin on.

dnbsi · 12-12-2007, 07:54 AM

watch the speedo, if it happens at exactly 18mph going to 19mph then i think it's the abs doing a self check. happens every time you start the car. i have the same sound, and thats what people on here told me it was. sounds like you ran over a loose man hole cover.

SIcivic07 · 12-13-2007, 12:04 AM

thats a good comparison!!! ill watch the speedo tonight! thanks dnbsi! ill let ya know

dnbsi · 12-14-2007, 06:01 PM

so was that it?

SIcivic07 · 12-19-2007, 10:39 AM

sorry for my delay!....but yep, happens 18mph going onto 19mph..no matter what gear...well whatever it is, its annoying! you sure its just the 'abs doing a self check'? is there a post about that?

Anubis · 12-19-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SIcivic07

sorry for my delay!....but yep, happens 18mph going onto 19mph..no matter what gear...well whatever it is, its annoying! you sure its just the 'abs doing a self check'? is there a post about that?

I would take it in ASAP! That doesn't sound good, and isn't typical grind probelms myself and many others have had.

12-09-2007, 12:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
SIcivic07 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nassau County, LI, NY Posts: 681 Dan the DIME slayer iTrader: 1 / 100%	not sure if this is the infamous grind... well, havent had any problems shifting into 2nd, nor 3rd...MAYBE into 3rd every so often, but not enough to bother me...now, the only time i hear something iffy is when the car is cold..after it sits over night, or even for a half hour, ill shift into 2nd gear, and at about 2800rpm, i will hear a "grind" sound...i dont shift, i dont press the clutch pedal, this happens as im driving...however, if ill shift into 3rd before i hit 2800rpm in 2nd hear, the grind will happen around the same in 3rd as well...BUT this only happens once, right after i start up the car...after it happens once, i get nothing!...what can this be?!

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08blacex Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 76 iTrader: 0 / 0%	mine will only do it the first 2 shifts into 3rd then it seems when the fluid is warm and a different thickness it wont do it.

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Leonard1818 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: OH Posts: 3,367 Leonard iTrader: 0 / 0%	I think what he's saying is that he gets a grind after shifting... once he's already in gear. Let's say he shifts from 1st --> 2nd and it lands at 1000rpm, he lets of the clutch and the rpm's climb... once they hit 2800, he hears a grind. Is this correct or am I just misreading?

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SIcivic07 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nassau County, LI, NY Posts: 681 Dan the DIME slayer iTrader: 1 / 100%	youre right...ill already be in gear, driving, only on the gas as the RPMs climb..once they hit 2800rpm est. in 2nd gear..."grinnddd"...i mean it only lasts about a second, if that..but wtf?!

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ssoh87 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 201 Sunny iTrader: 0 / 0%	is it a loud grinding, or more like clicking?

12-11-2007, 10:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
SIcivic07 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nassau County, LI, NY Posts: 681 Dan the DIME slayer iTrader: 1 / 100%	well it doesnt sound exactly like a gear grind, but thats what i can closely compare it to, its not really a clicking...nothing comes to mind to compare the sound to at the moment..but as far as loudness, its not THAT loud..if i have the radio on, i can barely hear it, but when its off, its veryyy clear.

12-11-2007, 11:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
markodarko Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have an 01 ex coupe with manual transmission (just bought an 08 sedan at) that does a similar sound. A rattle sound right? In the 7th gen usually 01 and 02 models there was an input shaft bearing in the manual transmission models that doesn't hold up well. I have heard of some people hearing the rattling around 60k miles on those models but mine didn't start til around 100k (at 130k now). The sound only got worse. I have been told it is because that bearing breaks apart and it is in the center of the transmission meaning its almost worth it to replace or rebuild the transmission. The sound on my 01 got worse but it still operates fine. I will be replacing the transmission with a rebuilt 05 transmission soon but I have my 08 now so I am not too worried. It was always around 2800 rpms. If you put your car in neutral and let out your clutch does it sound a lot different? I hope this isn't the same problem since I just bought an 8th gen (but I got at this time if that makes a difference, i'm no tranmission wiz).

12-12-2007, 03:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
ssoh87 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 201 Sunny iTrader: 0 / 0%	i may know what ur talking about SIcivic07. ive had the same sound coming from my fa5 si. i noticed the sound at the same rpms but only when im at about half throttle or more. and when i took it in the first time, they said it was spark knocking cuz my dumbass put in 85 octane. i switched to 91 and have put in 91 for months now and it still noticeable sometimes. i took it in again and they told me "your car's running great!!" aka we're not gonna help you. but i would suggest taking it into the dealer and have one of the service techs go on a ride with you so you can show them exactly whats goin on.

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dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 965 iTrader: 0 / 0%	watch the speedo, if it happens at exactly 18mph going to 19mph then i think it's the abs doing a self check. happens every time you start the car. i have the same sound, and thats what people on here told me it was. sounds like you ran over a loose man hole cover.

12-13-2007, 12:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
SIcivic07 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nassau County, LI, NY Posts: 681 Dan the DIME slayer iTrader: 1 / 100%	thats a good comparison!!! ill watch the speedo tonight! thanks dnbsi! ill let ya know

12-14-2007, 06:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
dnbsi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 965 iTrader: 0 / 0%	so was that it?

12-19-2007, 10:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
SIcivic07 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nassau County, LI, NY Posts: 681 Dan the DIME slayer iTrader: 1 / 100%	sorry for my delay!....but yep, happens 18mph going onto 19mph..no matter what gear...well whatever it is, its annoying! you sure its just the 'abs doing a self check'? is there a post about that?