Civic Si TRANS problems PETITION - Page 2

***06si*** · 12-05-2007, 09:48 AM

i already signed. You should reword the petition though because its pretty much one persons story and not really related to what other people are going through. You should mention about what exactly the problems are and give them a proposal on how it can be fixed.

***06si*** · 12-05-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brivis

sig. 605

And apparently post #69 he he he

sorry to disappoint you but you are only post 19

redicansFijiSi · 12-05-2007, 09:54 AM

#607
hope it works

Brivis · 12-05-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 06si

sorry to disappoint you but you are only post 19

I was talking about my post #

utstu · 12-05-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06si

i already signed. You should reword the petition though because its pretty much one persons story and not really related to what other people are going through. You should mention about what exactly the problems are and give them a proposal on how it can be fixed.

It's also not very well written.

furryferret7888 · 12-05-2007, 02:17 PM

im like #622!!!

furryferret7888 · 12-05-2007, 02:44 PM

here is the e-mail i sent (extra websites from webby)

From: kebkid@yahoo.com
To: TechNews@MSNBC.com
Cc: letters@msnbc.com
Subject: to the editor

Hello my name is Kristopher Baldner, I, as well as MANY others, am having an issue with Honda, that Honda is turning a blind eye to. Ill post links to our site (and others if i can find it) so you can read more about it. So far we have 100+ prople signed on our site's pettition to Honda, and there are 620+ names on one other site to pettition Honda. Please dont just delete this e-mail, we are having a tough time trying to get some attetion and I trust you can at least do a small segment about this sometime!
Thanks, Kristopher.

The "I have a 3rd gear problem" List

Honda Civic Si's Transmission Petition

Problems with 2nd, 4th, 6th, Reverse... Pops out of 2nd

Recalls, TSB's, and Common problems with the 8thgen civic...

Everyone with Third Gear Problems...

3rd gear?

Honda-Tech.com: Honda Civic (2006 - Current): $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$

06 si "third gear wall" - Club RSX Message Board

Honda-Tech.com: Acura RSX DC5 & Honda Civic EP3: RSX Type S Transmission problems?

is Honda planning to fix the problem with third gear grinding in the Civic SI or do a fix... - Honda Car Forum - Accord Parts Civic Tuning Acura Racing

Long-Term Road Tests - 2006 Honda Civic Si: Popping Out of 3rd Gear

how to duplicate 3rd gear problem at dealers!!!

People w/3rd gear issue please respond

For people with gear grinds and synchro problems - Honda Acura Forum

The Temple of VTEC - Honda and Acura Enthusiasts Online Forums > RSX > > Re: 3rd gear snag

there is a bit of a selection for you... there are obviously WAYYYY more than just this. once again thank you for your time, and I hope you dont turn a blind eye as honda has. thanks Kris

Driversound · 12-05-2007, 02:53 PM

We need more people on this. I'm 626 and there's thousands of us in this forum.

***SiAzul*** · 12-05-2007, 02:58 PM

# 628

***k20z3 Koop*** · 12-05-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Driversound

We need more people on this. I'm 626 and there's thousands of us in this forum.

I will when/if I get the problem. As of yet my car shifts like a dream (5k miles). If I start to get issues I will be right on to sign. However, I will not sign a petition just for the sake of signing it. That defeats the purpose.

***Orbit1*** · 12-05-2007, 03:11 PM

I wish you had let me write it. I've done many business letters and legal pleadings, I can literally kick someone in the balls with my words.

trystar · 12-05-2007, 04:35 PM

just make a new petition and we'll pass it around... or can you make an actual legal document of some sort?

jdmcoupe · 12-05-2007, 04:44 PM

I sign for that.

furryferret7888 · 12-05-2007, 04:51 PM

ill sign anything that will get my tranny fixed...

trystar · 12-05-2007, 05:42 PM

wooO! my rep bar just went up one little green thing. i'm gonna send this petition to foxnews investigates also. maybe they'll contact honda. it'll make them look bad if they don't do something about it if this problem is like exposed.

dt07Si · 12-05-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestrife

Im sorry these online petitions are proven to be very very non useful.
Its like spitting at an oncoming car its not gonna stop anything.
If you show this to the dealer they will probably laugh at you.
Your gonna need a lot more than an online petition but a hard factual legally backed one.

I'm afraid this petition won't do much, it is poorly written and needs to be more factual and formal if we want it to be taken seriously. On top of that the creators email is no longer valid. I tried contacting him, but no luck.

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Originally Posted by 06si

i already signed. You should reword the petition though because its pretty much one persons story and not really related to what other people are going through. You should mention about what exactly the problems are and give them a proposal on how it can be fixed.

I signed it this morning also. And I completely agree that it is worded poorly and needs to be more formal.

I think VIN numbers should be included and possibly some other info.

If we actually want an online petition to mean anything and be taken seriously we might want to consider starting a new one and spreading it on all the forums.

I think if people are gonna try and contact Honda, news stations, tv shows, or form petitions first and for most we need to present something that is well written and factual.

Thats why a more organized well written petition, with more information should be developed IMO and that should be presented as our biggest and best form of evidence, and then all the threads that have been created along with case numbers that we have/should develop can be used as supporting eveidence to a well written statement and petition.

trystar · 12-05-2007, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dt07Si

I'm afraid this petition won't do much, it is poorly written and needs to be more factual and formal if we want it to be taken seriously. On top of that the creators email is no longer valid. I tried contacting him, but no luck.

I signed it this morning also. And I completely agree that it is worded poorly and needs to be more formal.

I think VIN numbers should be included and possibly some other info.

If we actually want an online petition to mean anything and be taken seriously we might want to consider starting a new one and spreading it on all the forums.

I think if people are gonna try and contact Honda, news stations, tv shows, or form petitions first and for most we need to present something that is well written and factual.

Thats why a more organized well written petition, with more information should be developed IMO and that should be presented as our biggest and best form of evidence, and then all the threads that have been created along with case numbers that we have/should develop can be used as supporting eveidence to a well written statement and petition.

I think that's a great idea. Who wants to start a new petition that we could possbily spread? One that requires the VIN#s, model, year, etc. Thats awesome. +1

baz938 · 12-05-2007, 06:32 PM

+1 for who ever writes up a new petition becuase im so sick of my 3rd gear!!!!!

dt07Si · 12-05-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by trystar

I think that's a great idea. Who wants to start a new petition that we could possbily spread? One that requires the VIN#s, model, year, etc. Thats awesome. +1

I am more than willing to start preparing a more formal petition, but we have to be a little patient.

I don't want people to start jumping the gun and going and throwing together a petition together in like 10 mins and wasting there time like this other guy did with his.

Things we need to do:

1. Research Online Petition Websites
2. Write a formal petition statement
3. Get it out to as many people/forums as possible

dt07Si · 12-05-2007, 06:38 PM

Here are my thoughts....

1.
I think we need a well written letter supported with facts, and if at all possible proofread or written by or with the assistance of an attorney.

2.
I think an online petition could help support our argument, but we can't solely rely on it. I think the online petition that links have been posted to here on 8th and a thread has been created about, is weak. And if we are going to do one, it would be best if we started another one.

The creator of that petition's email is no longer valid, which is just another problem with it.

3.
I think we need to decide if these transmission problems that 8th generation Civics, RSX's, and EP3's all have reported are similar and if so then decide if we want to include them in our argument or petition.

Aside from that also do some research on what Honda has told them or done for them, seeing as how they have owned there cars since probably 2001 or 2002.

CLIFF NOTES

My idea would be to present a formal well written statement to Honda, with a formal petition with the names of the owners, model, and model year of car, and VIN number, and then a brief description of their problems. On top of that any case numbers developed with Honda dealerships. All of this along with URL's/links to threads with related discussions, lists, or experiences with these problems could be helpful supporting evidence also.

Let me know what you guys think of my ideas or any suggestions or input you may have.

I don't want to go creating another thread until more progress is made, and or a petition or letter is written.

WE NEED TO DEVELOP A STRONG PLAN OF ATTACK!

12-05-2007, 09:48 AM	#21 (permalink)
*06si* carbon fiber whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Florida Age: 22 Posts: 3,590 Kenny G iTrader: 4 / 100%	i already signed. You should reword the petition though because its pretty much one persons story and not really related to what other people are going through. You should mention about what exactly the problems are and give them a proposal on how it can be fixed. __________________ Click picture for info on my car

12-05-2007, 09:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
redicansFijiSi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 255 Seth iTrader: 0 / 0%	#607 hope it works

12-05-2007, 02:17 PM	#26 (permalink)
furryferret7888 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mobile alabama Age: 19 Posts: 960 kris iTrader: 2 / 100%	im like #622!!!

12-05-2007, 02:44 PM	#27 (permalink)
furryferret7888 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mobile alabama Age: 19 Posts: 960 kris iTrader: 2 / 100%	here is the e-mail i sent (extra websites from webby) From: kebkid@yahoo.com To: TechNews@MSNBC.com Cc: letters@msnbc.com Subject: to the editor Hello my name is Kristopher Baldner, I, as well as MANY others, am having an issue with Honda, that Honda is turning a blind eye to. Ill post links to our site (and others if i can find it) so you can read more about it. So far we have 100+ prople signed on our site's pettition to Honda, and there are 620+ names on one other site to pettition Honda. Please dont just delete this e-mail, we are having a tough time trying to get some attetion and I trust you can at least do a small segment about this sometime! Thanks, Kristopher. The "I have a 3rd gear problem" List Honda Civic Si's Transmission Petition Problems with 2nd, 4th, 6th, Reverse... Pops out of 2nd Recalls, TSB's, and Common problems with the 8thgen civic... Everyone with Third Gear Problems... 3rd gear? Honda-Tech.com: Honda Civic (2006 - Current): $$ FAQ: Third 3rd Gear grind scratch transmission trans sticky pop-out $$ 06 si "third gear wall" - Club RSX Message Board Honda-Tech.com: Acura RSX DC5 & Honda Civic EP3: RSX Type S Transmission problems? is Honda planning to fix the problem with third gear grinding in the Civic SI or do a fix... - Honda Car Forum - Accord Parts Civic Tuning Acura Racing Long-Term Road Tests - 2006 Honda Civic Si: Popping Out of 3rd Gear how to duplicate 3rd gear problem at dealers!!! People w/3rd gear issue please respond For people with gear grinds and synchro problems - Honda Acura Forum The Temple of VTEC - Honda and Acura Enthusiasts Online Forums > RSX > > Re: 3rd gear snag there is a bit of a selection for you... there are obviously WAYYYY more than just this. once again thank you for your time, and I hope you dont turn a blind eye as honda has. thanks Kris

12-05-2007, 02:53 PM	#28 (permalink)
Driversound Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 422 iTrader: 0 / 0%	We need more people on this. I'm 626 and there's thousands of us in this forum.

12-05-2007, 02:58 PM	#29 (permalink)
*SiAzul* VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 1,268 Mario iTrader: 0 / 0%	# 628

12-05-2007, 03:11 PM	#31 (permalink)
*Orbit1* VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I wish you had let me write it. I've done many business letters and legal pleadings, I can literally kick someone in the balls with my words.

12-05-2007, 04:35 PM	#32 (permalink)
trystar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress - Houston TX Posts: 867 Tam Ngo iTrader: 4 / 100%	just make a new petition and we'll pass it around... or can you make an actual legal document of some sort?

12-05-2007, 04:44 PM	#33 (permalink)
jdmcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 657 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I sign for that.

12-05-2007, 04:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
furryferret7888 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mobile alabama Age: 19 Posts: 960 kris iTrader: 2 / 100%	ill sign anything that will get my tranny fixed...

12-05-2007, 05:42 PM	#35 (permalink)
trystar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress - Houston TX Posts: 867 Tam Ngo iTrader: 4 / 100%	wooO! my rep bar just went up one little green thing. i'm gonna send this petition to foxnews investigates also. maybe they'll contact honda. it'll make them look bad if they don't do something about it if this problem is like exposed.

12-05-2007, 06:32 PM	#38 (permalink)
baz938 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Revere, Ma Posts: 378 iTrader: 0 / 0%	+1 for who ever writes up a new petition becuase im so sick of my 3rd gear!!!!!

12-05-2007, 06:38 PM	#40 (permalink)
dt07Si Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dirty Jerz Age: 22 Posts: 1,712 Dave iTrader: 1 / 100%	Here are my thoughts.... 1. I think we need a well written letter supported with facts, and if at all possible proofread or written by or with the assistance of an attorney. 2. I think an online petition could help support our argument, but we can't solely rely on it. I think the online petition that links have been posted to here on 8th and a thread has been created about, is weak. And if we are going to do one, it would be best if we started another one. The creator of that petition's email is no longer valid, which is just another problem with it. 3. I think we need to decide if these transmission problems that 8th generation Civics, RSX's, and EP3's all have reported are similar and if so then decide if we want to include them in our argument or petition. Aside from that also do some research on what Honda has told them or done for them, seeing as how they have owned there cars since probably 2001 or 2002. CLIFF NOTES My idea would be to present a formal well written statement to Honda, with a formal petition with the names of the owners, model, and model year of car, and VIN number, and then a brief description of their problems. On top of that any case numbers developed with Honda dealerships. All of this along with URL's/links to threads with related discussions, lists, or experiences with these problems could be helpful supporting evidence also. Let me know what you guys think of my ideas or any suggestions or input you may have. I don't want to go creating another thread until more progress is made, and or a petition or letter is written. WE NEED TO DEVELOP A STRONG PLAN OF ATTACK!