Honda admits 3rd gear problem and implements fix

rallykid · 10-18-2007, 11:51 PM

There IS a fix coming for 3rd gear and I confirmed it today. I finally convinced my dealer to tear into my car and fix my 3rd gear as it has been really bad and with the help of a Honda rep that happened to be there that day, they agreed. They ordered new synchros, "sun gear" and several other parts. They tore it apart and found that I had the updated sleeve in my '07 that was added after the '06 model year that was supposed to fix this in the early models.

When the service manager talked to the tech line he said they were aware of the problem, aware that the original fix did not fix the problem and will be releasing a more aggressive fix to the field in the next couple of months that involve synchros, miscellaneous parts and from what I was told "gears". I don't have full info as I don't pick my car back up until tomorrow but will get everything I can and post it when I get home tomorrow.

I look forward to seeing this fix hit the field and see if it solves this once and for all.

***furryferret7888*** · 10-18-2007, 11:54 PM

is there any way this could go into a "recall" mine is doing it wayyyyy bad and i cant talk the dealership into anything...

***chrisfrofro*** · 10-18-2007, 11:54 PM

in for the results on this one! effing 3rd gear blows

nayilsi · 10-18-2007, 11:54 PM

i have more trouble with 2nd gear.

***SiNISTER SiNDY*** · 10-19-2007, 12:12 AM

Mine hadn't happened in a week or so, but it did it baaaaddd again today. Thanks for the update!

rickhilbert · 10-19-2007, 12:25 AM

Maybe I should wait a bit before I call Honda AGAIN

***Special Ringpop*** · 10-19-2007, 12:31 AM

If this is true, I can't wait to slam a big effing "I told you so, you asshats" at every single one of the Twin Cities dealers who have told me they've never heard of this problem, and that they think it's my driving skills.

Tools.

Litlelev · 10-19-2007, 12:32 AM

does mean I should wait to put amsoil in?

rickhilbert · 10-19-2007, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nayilsi

i have more trouble with 2nd gear.

Even a "reputable" source documents what we have been talking about for a long time. And just now Honda will "possibly" offer a fix?!?

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/558

Bboy_Burst · 10-19-2007, 01:10 AM

My second gear started grinding recently and my third gear always popped out/grind. its getting worst everyday.

USDM-FG2 · 10-19-2007, 01:12 AM

mine isnt bad, it doesnt really grind at all. Lol when they look at my car and see "oh he has the corsport shifter cable bushings" lol cant fix it.

TOMMIELOEKO · 10-19-2007, 01:15 AM

sweet. about damn time!

JEA86 · 10-19-2007, 01:31 AM

yeah i am gonna wait and see this if it happens just like the Xbox 360ed ring of death lol

nayilsi · 10-19-2007, 01:32 AM

Sooo Where Is The Damn Fix ??!?!!?!??!

1st FIX then admit.

20civic07 · 10-19-2007, 01:44 AM

??? you must admit it then fix everyones... i am excited for the fix... i havent been driving the civic around, but it has pissed me off in a couple instances. im headed to the school and make a left turn and am about to shift gears and suddenly GRZZZ pop out of third gear and the engine revs because my foots on the gas pedal. gah. i am looking forward to this.

fishermoe14 · 10-19-2007, 02:02 AM

it just happend to me for the first time today... and with only a little over 400 miles...

KingMarineM16a4 · 10-19-2007, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallykid

There IS a fix coming for 3rd gear and I confirmed it today. I finally convinced my dealer to tear into my car and fix my 3rd gear as it has been really bad and with the help of a Honda rep that happened to be there that day, they agreed. They ordered new synchros, "sun gear" and several other parts. They tore it apart and found that I had the updated sleeve in my '07 that was added after the '06 model year that was supposed to fix this in the early models.

When the service manager talked to the tech line he said they were aware of the problem, aware that the original fix did not fix the problem and will be releasing a more aggressive fix to the field in the next couple of months that involve synchros, miscellaneous parts and from what I was told "gears". I don't have full info as I don't pick my car back up until tomorrow but will get everything I can and post it when I get home tomorrow.

I look forward to seeing this fix hit the field and see if it solves this once and for all.

Sun gears are in automatic transmissions...

GenghisKon · 10-19-2007, 02:17 AM

Don't let Honda fix anything ... They replaced my syncro's only to make 3rd and 4th gear pop out. 2nd Gear still grinds and sometimes have trouble putting my car into reverse....

ley · 10-19-2007, 02:33 AM

In for more info. I took my car to the stealership a few weeks into the car to get the third gear fix. I think all they did was change the tranny fluid to the new forumla. I am starting to see relapses, especially on a cold night.

**NitrousG35** · 10-19-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Special Ringpop

If this is true, I can't wait to slam a big effing "I told you so, you asshats" at every single one of the Twin Cities dealers who have told me they've never heard of this problem, and that they think it's my driving skills.

Tools.

Would that be Luther Hopkins Honda?

10-18-2007, 11:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
rallykid Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Michigan Age: 35 Posts: 84 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Honda admits 3rd gear problem and implements fix There IS a fix coming for 3rd gear and I confirmed it today. I finally convinced my dealer to tear into my car and fix my 3rd gear as it has been really bad and with the help of a Honda rep that happened to be there that day, they agreed. They ordered new synchros, "sun gear" and several other parts. They tore it apart and found that I had the updated sleeve in my '07 that was added after the '06 model year that was supposed to fix this in the early models. When the service manager talked to the tech line he said they were aware of the problem, aware that the original fix did not fix the problem and will be releasing a more aggressive fix to the field in the next couple of months that involve synchros, miscellaneous parts and from what I was told "gears". I don't have full info as I don't pick my car back up until tomorrow but will get everything I can and post it when I get home tomorrow. I look forward to seeing this fix hit the field and see if it solves this once and for all.

10-18-2007, 11:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
*chrisfrofro* back to losing seasons Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Dallas, Texas Posts: 4,833 Chris iTrader: 5 / 100%	in for the results on this one! effing 3rd gear blows __________________ Chat with us!!

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10-18-2007, 11:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
*furryferret7888* LEGAL in 36 states Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mobile alabama Age: 20 Posts: 1,395 kris iTrader: 2 / 100%	is there any way this could go into a "recall" mine is doing it wayyyyy bad and i cant talk the dealership into anything...

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nayilsi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: You mean nothing to me Posts: 9,648 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i have more trouble with 2nd gear.

10-19-2007, 12:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
rickhilbert Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,059 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Maybe I should wait a bit before I call Honda AGAIN

10-19-2007, 12:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Litlelev Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,101 iTrader: 3 / 100%	does mean I should wait to put amsoil in?

10-19-2007, 01:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merced, CA Age: 21 Posts: 966 13.8@103MPH N/A iTrader: 1 / 100%	My second gear started grinding recently and my third gear always popped out/grind. its getting worst everyday.

10-19-2007, 01:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
USDM-FG2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, NH Age: 19 Posts: 255 Dan S. iTrader: 0 / 0%	mine isnt bad, it doesnt really grind at all. Lol when they look at my car and see "oh he has the corsport shifter cable bushings" lol cant fix it.

10-19-2007, 01:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
TOMMIELOEKO Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 15bucks lil man, put that sh*t in my hand!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 8,138 Shake & Bake!!!! iTrader: 2 / 100%	sweet. about damn time!

10-19-2007, 01:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
JEA86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Glen Daniel WV Age: 22 Posts: 837 Jeremy iTrader: 21 / 100%	yeah i am gonna wait and see this if it happens just like the Xbox 360ed ring of death lol

10-19-2007, 01:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
nayilsi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: You mean nothing to me Posts: 9,648 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Sooo Where Is The Damn Fix ??!?!!?!??! 1st FIX then admit.

10-19-2007, 01:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
20civic07 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,733 iTrader: 18 / 100%	??? you must admit it then fix everyones... i am excited for the fix... i havent been driving the civic around, but it has pissed me off in a couple instances. im headed to the school and make a left turn and am about to shift gears and suddenly GRZZZ pop out of third gear and the engine revs because my foots on the gas pedal. gah. i am looking forward to this.

10-19-2007, 02:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
fishermoe14 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,117 Moe iTrader: 0 / 0%	it just happend to me for the first time today... and with only a little over 400 miles...

10-19-2007, 02:17 AM	#18 (permalink)
GenghisKon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 25 Posts: 362 Kon iTrader: 0 / 0%	Don't let Honda fix anything ... They replaced my syncro's only to make 3rd and 4th gear pop out. 2nd Gear still grinds and sometimes have trouble putting my car into reverse....

10-19-2007, 02:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
ley Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 518 Dimitri iTrader: 1 / 100%	In for more info. I took my car to the stealership a few weeks into the car to get the third gear fix. I think all they did was change the tranny fluid to the new forumla. I am starting to see relapses, especially on a cold night.