Everyone with Third Gear Problems...

[EastJunglez22]

upgraded to royal purple today..feels good..u butter believe it..hopefully it stays like that..i was having the well known 3rd gear prob..once they got it on the lift they caught that the oil plug drain was finger loose..F*in jiffy lube..never send ur girl to get ur oil changed..

[miketat594]

You can do the exhaust and intake and Honda can't void your warrenty about 5 years ago they would try and get away with that voiding BS to the extent people would come in with things such as bad window motors and they would send the service Mngr out to let you know that the warrenty was voided because you had put a cat back and an intake on the car. Well fortunatley for us enough people threw a fit and the law was changed that unless the problem has a direct link to the modifying done they can't void warrenty's because it was looked at as a money making skeem and trust me you can go and do the complete exhaust + intake and it has nothing to do with 3rd gear so if they were to give you a problem all you need to mention is CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT, Then you can watch your car go in that Honda garage faster Super man on speed, but hey all big corp is about cost cutting so can you blame them if they CHECK you for a sucker, Turbo's are another story don't do them untill after the warrenty is up cause then your screwed, for one the axles arn't enough in stock form and on the k20 motors with the 11.1 compression you can't run more than about 4-6 pounds of boost cause if you do there is a very good chance you will put the 3rd piston right through the cylinder wall alot of mods go into these motors to run down into the 10's and 11's but realize that your car in stock form isn't slow to be in a 13 to 14 with no work isn't bad at all and with very little work you can push a 8th Gen si into the 12's with just a good exhaust and an intake and the only part of your warrenty voided is the exhaust the sensors that are involved and as for the intake if you live where it rains often go short ram. HYDROLOK IS YOUR PROBLEM WHEN YOU GO COLD AIR. More or less the way it works is if it can be affecting to somthing else that your worried about then don't do it and as for all those modded cars, yeah thats my thing too but do it within reason who wants to make car payments on a clapped out blown motor do the things that need to be done that they don't cover anyway. I have done my intake and complete exhaust along with the clutch flywheel weight, Brakes calipers(BREMBO front brake kit worth every cent) cause in my opinion Honda skimpped on alot including the brakes since no rear kit is avail I put some EBC Green stuff pads to help out back so think of the things that will help perform that won't be covered anyway and replace that stuff first, and yes I know calipars are covered in stock form but I did prefer stopping over over a free part that didn't stop. My suspension I got lucky one of my good friends happens to be the service MNGR at My Honda dealer so when he put the HFP system in his si he didn't use the springs cause they are only 1.250 lower so I have the springs on si stock struts while he has the HFP struts with a Skunk 2.250 lowering spring my ride quality is better than his with just a lowering spring on stock strut but his handling is better much stiffer but if you commute trust me don't do stiffer unless every road you travel is perfect.

[KingMarineM16a4]

Post delete? What does that have to do with third gear grinds?

[fsxbob]

i want switch to Royal Purple MTF, would you reccomend taking it to a mechanic and getting it flushed or just drain it myself?

[KingMarineM16a4]

Originally Posted by fsxbob

i want switch to Royal Purple MTF, would you reccomend taking it to a mechanic and getting it flushed or just drain it myself?

Drain in yourself. Pay someone to simply unscrew a fill plug, unscrewing a drain plug, letting the fluid drain, putting the drain plug back in, putting new fluid back in and putting the fill plug back on is pretty retarded.

[espinoza19]

I just read all the thread...some dammn good info! thanks! ima really look into this here at work since I work at Honda. Hope it gets fixed. thanks!

[KingMarineM16a4]

Originally Posted by espinoza19

I just read all the thread...some dammn good info! thanks! ima really look into this here at work since I work at Honda. Hope it gets fixed. thanks!

Hopefully for those who own Hondas, Honda will finally put out a recall although all they are going to do is replace the MTF (manual transmission fluid), when in reality they need to fix the transmission shift rail, shift fork, synchronizers.

[Puzman]

FWIW, I was having occasional third gear issues (not going into gear and/or grinding a few times/week). I replaced the MTF with "new" Honda MTF, and it didn't do squat. I then replaced it with Amsoil, and the issue has disappeared. Completely. Shift quality has improved in every gear as well. It's the easiest fix to do, it will set you back all of $50, including having a mechanic do the swap. Why not try it?

[damien6669]

Originally Posted by miketat594

You can do the exhaust and intake and Honda can't void your warrenty about 5 years ago they would try and get away with that voiding BS to the extent people would come in with things such as bad window motors and they would send the service Mngr out to let you know that the warrenty was voided because you had put a cat back and an intake on the car. Well fortunatley for us enough people threw a fit and the law was changed that unless the problem has a direct link to the modifying done they can't void warrenty's because it was looked at as a money making skeem and trust me you can go and do the complete exhaust + intake and it has nothing to do with 3rd gear so if they were to give you a problem all you need to mention is CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT, Then you can watch your car go in that Honda garage faster Super man on speed, but hey all big corp is about cost cutting so can you blame them if they CHECK you for a sucker, Turbo's are another story don't do them untill after the warrenty is up cause then your screwed, for one the axles arn't enough in stock form and on the k20 motors with the 11.1 compression you can't run more than about 4-6 pounds of boost cause if you do there is a very good chance you will put the 3rd piston right through the cylinder wall alot of mods go into these motors to run down into the 10's and 11's but realize that your car in stock form isn't slow to be in a 13 to 14 with no work isn't bad at all and with very little work you can push a 8th Gen si into the 12's with just a good exhaust and an intake and the only part of your warrenty voided is the exhaust the sensors that are involved and as for the intake if you live where it rains often go short ram. HYDROLOK IS YOUR PROBLEM WHEN YOU GO COLD AIR. More or less the way it works is if it can be affecting to somthing else that your worried about then don't do it and as for all those modded cars, yeah thats my thing too but do it within reason who wants to make car payments on a clapped out blown motor do the things that need to be done that they don't cover anyway. I have done my intake and complete exhaust along with the clutch flywheel weight, Brakes calipers(BREMBO front brake kit worth every cent) cause in my opinion Honda skimpped on alot including the brakes since no rear kit is avail I put some EBC Green stuff pads to help out back so think of the things that will help perform that won't be covered anyway and replace that stuff first, and yes I know calipars are covered in stock form but I did prefer stopping over over a free part that didn't stop. My suspension I got lucky one of my good friends happens to be the service MNGR at My Honda dealer so when he put the HFP system in his si he didn't use the springs cause they are only 1.250 lower so I have the springs on si stock struts while he has the HFP struts with a Skunk 2.250 lowering spring my ride quality is better than his with just a lowering spring on stock strut but his handling is better much stiffer but if you commute trust me don't do stiffer unless every road you travel is perfect.

That is one insightful ramble.

[KingMarineM16a4]

Originally Posted by damien6669

That is one insightful ramble.

Yeah, way off topic from this thread.

[CatScratched]

This is a great thread and deserves all the bumps it can get. I love seeing guts and gears.



I'd rep you again if I could.

[GQ4Life]

if you guys raced more and shifted faster im sure there be more broken trannies...
so much for honda quality..
seeing alot of treads with problems..

[i-VTECH]

ok i just read the whole thread and from what I have read changing the tranny fluid helps? But which one is best Royal Purple or Amsoil??

I have noticed that when shifting into third it like almost stops and then if you push it alittle more it pops in. I have a 2007 SI with 10,000 miles on it in four months and this has happened about a dozen times already.

Thanks

[KingMarineM16a4]

Originally Posted by i-VTECH

ok i just read the whole thread and from what I have read changing the tranny fluid helps? But which one is best Royal Purple or Amsoil??

I have noticed that when shifting into third it like almost stops and then if you push it alittle more it pops in. I have a 2007 SI with 10,000 miles on it in four months and this has happened about a dozen times already.

Thanks

LOL your screen name, it's vtec not vtech, it's not a remote or a phone, it's Honda's verison of variable valve timing. Any synthetic MTF will help your problem, notice I said HELP not FIX.

[i-VTECH]

haha yeh after i submitted for the name and everything I had to do it twice so the second time i did it i guess i just typed that in without looking and after i got the email conformation i saw it and was like god dam i messed up bad haha but thanks for the help

[07 NBP Si sedan]

Who cares about avatar. Lets stick to the subject please. I also have the 3rd gear

problem with my 07 NBP Si sedan. Its been doing it since new. Now with 3300 miles

it does it more often. I e-mailed my dealer 3 times with long letters explaining the many

posts on the Civic forums about this problem, NO REPLY YET. I am going in for an

oil change on Dec 26. Then I will talk to them and show them the papers I have printed

out from the posts. I have the list with 763 complaints along with posts from other

forums. Very curious what they will say. This is BULLSHIT that Honda isn't doing

anything. Maybe an American car will be next. I have 3 Toyota Trucks and had NO

bad problems. I had a Honda Accord and 2 Acura TL & TL-S and had NO problems,

BUT they were all Automatic's.

[KingMarineM16a4]

Originally Posted by 07 NBP Si sedan

Who cares about avatar. Lets stick to the subject please. I also have the 3rd gear

problem with my 07 NBP Si sedan. Its been doing it since new. Now with 3300 miles

it does it more often. I e-mailed my dealer 3 times with long letters explaining the many

posts on the Civic forums about this problem, NO REPLY YET. I am going in for an

oil change on Dec 26. Then I will talk to them and show them the papers I have printed

out from the posts. I have the list with 763 complaints along with posts from other

forums. Very curious what they will say. This is BULLSHIT that Honda isn't doing

anything. Maybe an American car will be next. I have 3 Toyota Trucks and had NO

bad problems. I had a Honda Accord and 2 Acura TL & TL-S and had NO problems,

BUT they were all Automatic's.

Your dealer won't do anything you need to take that information to HOA (Honda Of America). E-mailing your dealer won't do anything either, talk to the Service Supervisor (not the service manager or service assistant manager).

[07 NBP Si sedan]

OK. I have Honda's address. We should ALL get to work and send them lists and

petitions from all posts and forums.

American Honda Motor Co. Inc.
Honda Automobile Customer Service.
1919 Torrance Boulevard
Mail Stop: 500-2N-7D
Torrance, CA. 90501-2746

[soxfan143]

I have an 07 si sedan also and at about 2000 miles my 3rd gear started acting up. I replaced the MTF with Royal Purple 10w-30 and for 8000 miles I haven't had 1 single problem. It shifts perfect. I think if you catch it early enough your synchros don't get as f'd up. Idk maybe I'm wrong, but it has worked for me so far.

[Patman]

How many quarts of MTF do you need to fill up the MTF in the Si (after draining the original MTF out of the transmission)?