Nitrogen in my tires?

[8yourv8]

[sgtpruitt]

Wow, you guys are crazy. LOL

Talk about the mod bug.

[rmfa]

Originally Posted by sgtpruitt

Wow, you guys are crazy. LOL

Talk about the mod bug.

As soon as someone does it you know they will list it in their signature and then convince everyone that they are faster with 5-6 more MPG.

[pockings]

Originally Posted by rmfa

As soon as someone does it you know they will list it in their signature and then convince everyone that they are faster with 5-6 more MPG.

Ya. They'll prolly say that since nitrogen is lighter and it lifts the wheels like a hot air ballon, and therefore the the 5-6 MPG and 5-6 HP gain .

[Duce2k]

Vtec+Nitrogen=1000hp

[LDB]

Originally Posted by rmfa

These nitrogen threads come up on all forums, I swear. Just keep your tired inflated consistantly, thats all you have to do. Forget about the nitrogen.

You obviously haven't read up on nitrogen filling.

[effNsi]

i think someone should try liquid N2 i heard it does wonders

[Vince]

Originally Posted by LDB

You obviously haven't read up on nitrogen filling.

Even if there are benefits, changing the "air" in your tires...for $40 as one poster stated, man, that just don't seem right. Some might even call it "dumb", no matter the supposed benefits.
Its the latest snake-oil gimmick IMVHO.

[MikeDawg]

Originally Posted by LDB

You obviously haven't read up on nitrogen filling.

I think he about had it. The most important thing is to keep your tire pressure at the recommended psi, whether you inflate with normal air or n2.

I've read a bunch of crap regarding n2, and I think that its improvements over oxygen is completely minimal. I have added air to my n2 tires, just as much as I previously did with plain air in my tires. I haven't had any sort of oxidation/rust on my alloy rims.

The fact is, n2 will make each tire approx. 1 ounce lighter. If you think 4 oz. is going to make that much of a performance difference, you're mistaken.

As I said earlier in this post, the biggest improvement with using n2 over plain air, is the fact that n2 is completely inert so it is *less likely* to cause any sort of tire rot or rust/oxidation on your rims.

[LDB]

It isn't just the minimal lowering of unsprung weight, it's the longevity of the fills. Molecules are much larger so they don't seep out through the pores in the tires. It also doesn't change inflation pressure between cold and hot. As also stated, it doesn't allow oxidation. I agree that $40 is too high. About $5 per tire for personal vehicles is reasonable. Commercial tires for $10 per tire seems the norm.

[MikeDawg]

Originally Posted by LDB

It isn't just the minimal lowering of unsprung weight, it's the longevity of the fills. Molecules are much larger so they don't seep out through the pores in the tires. It also doesn't change inflation pressure between cold and hot. As also stated, it doesn't allow oxidation. I agree that $40 is too high. About $5 per tire for personal vehicles is reasonable. Commercial tires for $10 per tire seems the norm.

That is actually another misconception. You're telling me that the empty holes (on a molecular level) in rubber that they use in your tires, just happens to be big enough to allow oxygen, while being too small to let N2 out?

What really happens is the fact that N2 doesn't contain all the water molecules that oxygen does, therefore N2 doesn't expand and contract based upon the humidity, or other conditions that effect the water molecules.

The fact is n2 probably does keep your tires a little bit cooler, and it does expand/contract a lot less than air; but with all things considered, does it really make that big of a deal for John Q. Public driving his car to work everyday; I really don't think so.

You should regularly check your tire pressure, probably at least once a month, if not more often, regardless of whether you're running air or n2, and that is whats best for your tires, keeping them properly inflated.

[LDB]

Yes, I'm telling you the molecules are different sizes between the two with the nitrogen molecules being larger. I'm also saying the pores in the rubber are of such a small size that far fewer nitrogen molecules are able to pass through them. Combined with the minimal expansion/contraction of the nitrogen that makes for a far more stable pressure level at various temperatures as well as much longer intervals between needed refills. You lose more each time you check than you lose through leakage. I'm no scientist but I have this from a degreed chemist I trust so I'm sticking with it.

[Quantum]

Originally Posted by pockings

Ya. They'll prolly say that since nitrogen is lighter and it lifts the wheels like a hot air ballon, and therefore the the 5-6 MPG and 5-6 HP gain .

See my post in this thread, hehe: nitrogen in tires, is that SI only? buy N in a can?

[rmfa]

Originally Posted by LDB

You obviously haven't read up on nitrogen filling.

Why is everyone so astounded by this? All this does is keep your tires at a more consistent pressure. That’s it. It 'helps save you gas' because your tires are the most efficient at the correct pressure. Marketing has gotten you again!

[NBPRudy]

Nitrogen is an ideal gas for inflating tires in aircraft, military vehicles, race cars, and heavy off-road equipment, but when it comes to automobile tires, it offers no apparent advantages over ordinary, dry compressed air. Just stick with the air you breathe.

My quote came directly from Honda Canada.

oh you said prove it?

[Vince]

Originally Posted by NBPRudy

My quote came directly from Honda Canada.

Good job, I knew I had read that somewhere before; pwned!

[LDB]

I especially like how you took one post and managed to increase your post count by two. Acura's response not withstanding, I'll stick with my chemist friend, my molecular biologist friend and my tire engineer acquaintance who all, with no financial or other incentive either way, say that there is benefit for any tires.

[dentrecords]

Please cut the bickering and post whoring out. I hope you can just agree to disagree and leave at that.

Thanks.

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by 02civicsi

^^^ When are you getting your wheels? ^^^

BOT - I just wish more there were more places to get it.

The Traklites are backordered right now. They are supposed to come in later this month. Will let you know what happens.

[07mugencivic]

i have never hear this b4...thats crazy..