1st gear locking

mrdimsum · 09-04-2007, 03:07 AM

Has anyone have this problem, where you try to shift into 1st, and like its locked out.. i'm like WTF, i haven't done any burnouts. or any krazy stuff to first gear, i baby first gear... its ticking me off... took it in.. and they said it didn't happen to them... so it's happend 6th times to me... if its happened to you... tell me about it... like how you were on a hill and tried to get into first and it was like a OH S****

and you started rollin back....

nayilsi · 09-04-2007, 04:09 AM

ive had that a few times....

think it unlocks itself when ur abt 5 to 8 mph....downshifting wise that is.

mrdimsum · 09-04-2007, 04:18 AM

i'm talkin about from a complete standstill

nayilsi · 09-04-2007, 04:25 AM

oh

it doesnt completely lock...at least for me.... but i do feel sum amt of resistance.

Feels like there are metallic deposits stuck in the gear box.

krazyguy187 · 09-04-2007, 04:25 AM

that happened to me also, what i do is i put it to second gear and flooring the gas.. i dont know either what was wrong..

mrdimsum · 09-04-2007, 04:27 AM

its a serious issue.... cuase nextime, i might be unaware of it and a car will be behind me and POW, i get screwed and i'll sue honda, cause i told them and they did nothin.... okay... i hope i roll back and hit someone... then i'll sue honda and their be a recall and then we all get new tranny's.... and you won't have to thank me....

***Shinobi*** · 09-04-2007, 07:20 PM

i've had that happen at times. what i find that works for me is usually put it in 2nd or 3rd then then put it back into first and it'll go right in. only prob for me is the 3rd gear sometimes. feels like sometimes it's not going in all the way. need to get the tranny amsoil fluid to see if it helps.

mrdimsum · 09-04-2007, 09:22 PM

Yeah... same here... i feel like 3rd gear isn't going in all the way too... and i think its in and then GRIND....

D1BSI · 09-08-2007, 03:09 PM

i was looking around the site for people with his problem as well cause it started happening to me recently. its really frustrating. i first i had to worry about 3rd now i have to worry about first. i mean im just at a light it turns green and i try to get into first and i cant. wtf does anyone know exactly which is the tranny fluid that helps out with the 3rd gear and hopefully this problem?

Tiller · 09-08-2007, 03:43 PM

I've had this in every manual tranny i've ever owned, to be specific, a 2000 Civic, a 2000 Prelude SH, and now my 2006 Civic Si. I also work at a dealership and hear of this, and it is a normal thing. There is nothing that can be done. The way to get it into first is to like other people said quickly put it into 2nd or 3rd gear, then back to first.....this does happen but it doesnt happen "all the time". I might get this once every 2 months.

D1BSI · 09-08-2007, 03:53 PM

it never happened to me before and its happened to me id say around 8 times in the last month and a half or something so its really getting to me

sjlarue · 09-08-2007, 04:45 PM

I know this might seem a little too simple of a reply but has anyone ever thought about taking the service rep for a RIDE? The Mech. has a set way of checking things, a standard. So if they do it the standard way and it doesn't do it guess what..to them, nothing is wrong. So take the rep for a ride and duplicate the problem. Then he/she can better relate the problem to the mech.

That being said, he will prob. tell you what everyone else has.

**Yodums** · 09-08-2007, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiller

I've had this in every manual tranny i've ever owned, to be specific, a 2000 Civic, a 2000 Prelude SH, and now my 2006 Civic Si. I also work at a dealership and hear of this, and it is a normal thing. There is nothing that can be done. The way to get it into first is to like other people said quickly put it into 2nd or 3rd gear, then back to first.....this does happen but it doesnt happen "all the time". I might get this once every 2 months.

If I find myself being locked out of first gear, I'll just put it into second gear and then it usually goes into first without any issues.

D1BSI · 09-08-2007, 05:10 PM

i understand i can easily put in in second or neutral and then in will go into first or just take off on second but i sucks having to play games and have tricks on driving my new 2007 Si. i got a service schedule in the next 300 mi so when i go in for service im going to see if i cn getting the whole thing taken care of and hopefully i can replicate the problem at that moment like sjlarue recomends

sjlarue · 09-08-2007, 05:15 PM

souds like a plan. Keep us posted. I'd like to hear their answer.

***07mugencivic*** · 09-08-2007, 05:16 PM

i have never than the problem

mrdimsum · 09-08-2007, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjlarue

I know this might seem a little too simple of a reply but has anyone ever thought about taking the service rep for a RIDE? The Mech. has a set way of checking things, a standard. So if they do it the standard way and it doesn't do it guess what..to them, nothing is wrong. So take the rep for a ride and duplicate the problem. Then he/she can better relate the problem to the mech.

That being said, he will prob. tell you what everyone else has.

I've brought it in, but the problem is, that it happens every now and then, so if you take it in, it might not even happen, and they'll not even feel the problem so they can't do anything about it.

***AbsoluteGG*** · 09-08-2007, 10:05 PM

i have the same issue, took it in to the dealer and they had a mechanic drive it and he said i'm probably not putting in the clutch all the way.

televascular · 09-08-2007, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdimsum

its a serious issue.... cuase nextime, i might be unaware of it and a car will be behind me and POW, i get screwed and i'll sue honda, cause i told them and they did nothin.... okay... i hope i roll back and hit someone... then i'll sue honda and their be a recall and then we all get new tranny's.... and you won't have to thank me....

I have experienced this "first gear lockout" also, but it's more of an annoyance than a serious issue. I've driven some terribly-engineered five-speeds before. The Honda 6MT has some quirky behavior, but it's the best tranny I've ever dealt with by far.

You won't have any grounds with which to sue Honda. I am always on my brake when I shift into first gear from a standstill; I don't let my brake pedal up until I'm in gear and ready to feather the clutch. It seems that you let go of the brake pedal first, and then put the car into gear and drive. Therefore, if you roll back and hit the car behind you, it's because of your particular driving style, which Honda is in no way responsible for.

Tastycakes · 09-08-2007, 10:51 PM

Yea i have a bad habit of putting it into 1st, then back to N, then back to 1st. I get it locked out sometimes (most likely cause the dog gears are stopped since the clutch pedal is in, kinda like you know how its hard to put it into gear w/ the engine off sometimes)

Just pop it into N and take your foot off the clutch, then back in and put it into 1st or just go to 2nd then back to 1st. Either should work just fine, you just need to rotate the dog gears a little bit so the teeth fit into each other.

09-04-2007, 03:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
mrdimsum Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: san diego Posts: 905 kelly iTrader: 1 / 100%	1st gear locking Has anyone have this problem, where you try to shift into 1st, and like its locked out.. i'm like WTF, i haven't done any burnouts. or any krazy stuff to first gear, i baby first gear... its ticking me off... took it in.. and they said it didn't happen to them... so it's happend 6th times to me... if its happened to you... tell me about it... like how you were on a hill and tried to get into first and it was like a OH S**** and you started rollin back....

09-08-2007, 04:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
sjlarue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: OH-IO Age: 38 Posts: 631 Call Me Jr Samples @ BR-549 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I know this might seem simple I know this might seem a little too simple of a reply but has anyone ever thought about taking the service rep for a RIDE? The Mech. has a set way of checking things, a standard. So if they do it the standard way and it doesn't do it guess what..to them, nothing is wrong. So take the rep for a ride and duplicate the problem. Then he/she can better relate the problem to the mech. That being said, he will prob. tell you what everyone else has.

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09-04-2007, 04:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
nayilsi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: You mean nothing to me Posts: 9,648 iTrader: 0 / 0%	ive had that a few times.... think it unlocks itself when ur abt 5 to 8 mph....downshifting wise that is.

09-04-2007, 04:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
mrdimsum Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: san diego Posts: 905 kelly iTrader: 1 / 100%	i'm talkin about from a complete standstill

09-04-2007, 04:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
nayilsi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: You mean nothing to me Posts: 9,648 iTrader: 0 / 0%	oh it doesnt completely lock...at least for me.... but i do feel sum amt of resistance. Feels like there are metallic deposits stuck in the gear box.

09-04-2007, 04:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
krazyguy187 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: bellflower ca. Posts: 551 lyonel iTrader: 1 / 100%	that happened to me also, what i do is i put it to second gear and flooring the gas.. i dont know either what was wrong..

09-04-2007, 04:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
mrdimsum Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: san diego Posts: 905 kelly iTrader: 1 / 100%	its a serious issue.... cuase nextime, i might be unaware of it and a car will be behind me and POW, i get screwed and i'll sue honda, cause i told them and they did nothin.... okay... i hope i roll back and hit someone... then i'll sue honda and their be a recall and then we all get new tranny's.... and you won't have to thank me....

09-04-2007, 07:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Shinobi* VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 217 iTrader: 1 / 100%	i've had that happen at times. what i find that works for me is usually put it in 2nd or 3rd then then put it back into first and it'll go right in. only prob for me is the 3rd gear sometimes. feels like sometimes it's not going in all the way. need to get the tranny amsoil fluid to see if it helps.

09-04-2007, 09:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
mrdimsum Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: san diego Posts: 905 kelly iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yeah... same here... i feel like 3rd gear isn't going in all the way too... and i think its in and then GRIND....

09-08-2007, 03:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
D1BSI Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 521 David iTrader: 0 / 0%	i was looking around the site for people with his problem as well cause it started happening to me recently. its really frustrating. i first i had to worry about 3rd now i have to worry about first. i mean im just at a light it turns green and i try to get into first and i cant. wtf does anyone know exactly which is the tranny fluid that helps out with the 3rd gear and hopefully this problem?

09-08-2007, 03:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tiller Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I've had this in every manual tranny i've ever owned, to be specific, a 2000 Civic, a 2000 Prelude SH, and now my 2006 Civic Si. I also work at a dealership and hear of this, and it is a normal thing. There is nothing that can be done. The way to get it into first is to like other people said quickly put it into 2nd or 3rd gear, then back to first.....this does happen but it doesnt happen "all the time". I might get this once every 2 months.

09-08-2007, 03:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
D1BSI Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 521 David iTrader: 0 / 0%	it never happened to me before and its happened to me id say around 8 times in the last month and a half or something so its really getting to me

09-08-2007, 05:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
D1BSI Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 521 David iTrader: 0 / 0%	i understand i can easily put in in second or neutral and then in will go into first or just take off on second but i sucks having to play games and have tricks on driving my new 2007 Si. i got a service schedule in the next 300 mi so when i go in for service im going to see if i cn getting the whole thing taken care of and hopefully i can replicate the problem at that moment like sjlarue recomends

09-08-2007, 05:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
sjlarue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: OH-IO Age: 38 Posts: 631 Call Me Jr Samples @ BR-549 iTrader: 0 / 0%	souds like a plan. Keep us posted. I'd like to hear their answer.

09-08-2007, 05:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
*07mugencivic* Whos The Whore NOW Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern CA Age: 24 Posts: 101,159 Toe Knee iTrader: 4 / 100%	i have never than the problem

09-08-2007, 10:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tastycakes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Suburbs of Chicago Age: 25 Posts: 2,644 Mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yea i have a bad habit of putting it into 1st, then back to N, then back to 1st. I get it locked out sometimes (most likely cause the dog gears are stopped since the clutch pedal is in, kinda like you know how its hard to put it into gear w/ the engine off sometimes) Just pop it into N and take your foot off the clutch, then back in and put it into 1st or just go to 2nd then back to 1st. Either should work just fine, you just need to rotate the dog gears a little bit so the teeth fit into each other.