Anyones car have a slight pull to the left?

nsl · 08-13-2007, 11:08 PM

My 2007 Si Coupe seems to have a slight pull to the left,which is the opposite(spell?) of what most have.I had the tires rotated and balanced today and it didn't change.Will the Honda dealer check this for me under warranty and for free?Anyway,my last car did the same thing even after three alignments and new tires.I could actually shift into the left lane just by turning loose of the wheel.I sold it and bought the Honda,but the Honda is doing the same.I would rather have the car pull to the right and not the left.Any advise?

**Yodums** · 08-13-2007, 11:21 PM

I don't believe it will be an alignment or balancing issue. There was a TSB I've glanced over before and it addressed this issue. They had to disassemble the steering rack (don't quote me on this...) or something steering related and readjusted the steering wheel.

nsl · 08-14-2007, 10:13 AM

Well,I just made an appointment for Monday mourning.Having the alignment checked should be under warranty,right?

nsl · 08-15-2007, 11:46 AM

I am getting kind of worried about the car going left.As I said I sold my last car because of it.I did several searches and all complaints are about the car pulling right,which is normal to some extent.Hopefully the dealer will be able to find something and fix it.

SiRyan · 08-15-2007, 02:11 PM

keep us updated....

***ThaJazz*** · 08-15-2007, 02:35 PM

Mine pulls to the left, especially since putting my 18s on. This is a common issue?

Killa_CiViC · 08-15-2007, 11:44 PM

Pulling in any direction is never a normal condition. Warranty covers the alignment up to 12 months or 12,000 miles under manufacturer defect. You shouldn't charged anything to check or correct alignment under these conditions... and it's never something a technician minds doing, because it pays very well to do a warranty alignment (usually).

My steering wheel has been off center from the day I bought my car... but I'm a tech, and I know I can fix it myself I haven't taken it back... had just been waiting to get the 06-07 updates in our alignment machine before I fix mine... that happened two weeks ago... just waiting for work to slow down a little before I straighten her up.

Take it to your Honda dealer... tell them your problem... drive with the tech if you need to, so they'll know what exactly your problem is (be it mechanical or psychological) and get it fixed before it's out of Warranty.

HkyGrL2 · 08-16-2007, 12:18 AM

I had the same issues and the bastards charged me for allignment.
Drove off and it was though as nothing had been done!

iknowmysh1t · 08-16-2007, 12:33 AM

2006 Honda Civic Si L4-2.0L
Vehicle Level Technical Service Bulletins All Technical Service Bulletins Steering/Suspension - Vehicle Pull/Drift To One Side
Steering/Suspension - Vehicle Pull/Drift To One Side
Notes

06-068

January 12, 2007

Applies To: ALL 1999-07 Models

Vehicle Pulling or Drifting

(Supersedes 06-068, dated November 18, 2006, to update the information marked by the black bars)

SYMPTOM

While driving on a straight road, the vehicle pulls or drifts to the right or left.

BACKGROUND

New tools were developed to help you diagnose and correct a pulling and/or steering wheel off-center issue. There is a diagnosis worksheet included to take on your test-drive and record your findings. These values are used to build the 15-digit DTC (diagnostic trouble code) that is required for your warranty claim. The last step in each repair procedure helps you create the correct code.

In the rare case that you have to repair a vehicle that pulls and has the steering wheel off-center, use REPAIR PROCEDURE B to file your warranty claim.

PROBABLE CAUSES

Several conditions can cause the vehicle to pull or drift:
^ Wheel alignment

^ Tires

^ Steering wheel off-center (no pulling or drifting, but a customer may believe this is the case)

CORRECTIVE ACTION

Diagnose the problem using the special tools and the worksheet on page 4 that guides you to one of four repair procedures.

TOOL INFORMATION

WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION

In warranty:
The normal warranty applies.

Failed Part: P/N 53560-SDA-A01
H/C 7139652

Defect Code: 07406

Symptom Code: 03602

Skill Level: Repair Technician

Diagnostic Trouble
Code: To create the 15-digit DTC, see
the applicable repair procedure.

Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.

TOOL INFORMATION

Holding Force Gauge

The holding force gauge measures the amount of the pull on the vehicle. It is a bracket that counts as one weight, plus five removable weights.

During the test-drive, attach the bracket and the weights to the steering wheel on the side opposite the pulling direction. For example, if the vehicle pulls to the right, attach the bracket and weights to the left side of the steering wheel. Start with the maximum amount of weight on the steering wheel, and remove the weights until the vehicle drives in a straight line.

When recording the pull on the worksheet, write down the direction of the pull (left or right) and the number of weights required to balance the pull (one through six). For example, you have the bracket and two weights on the steering wheel. Record this as three weights.

Road Crown Gauge

The road crown gauge measures the amount of road crown. Almost all roads have a crown to help drain water during rainstorms. Use the suction cup to attach the road crown gauge bracket to the vehicle in a vertical position. If necessary, bend the bracket until the gauge is vertical. Once you attach and align the road crown gauge, calibrate the gauge to zero. There are two ways to calibrate the gauge:
^ Park the vehicle on a level surface, like an alignment rack, and calibrate the gauge by moving the gauge until the ball is on the zero mark.

^ If you do not have a perfectly flat surface, park the vehicle on a reasonably flat surface and note the gauge reading. Turn the vehicle 1800 and, with the tires in the same spot, note the new gauge reading. Then move the gauge half of the difference. Example, your first reading is +3 and after moving the vehicle, the gauge reads -1. The difference is 4 degrees. Position the gauge to read +1.

NOTE :You must calibrate the gauge with the same weight in the vehicle that you will use for the test-drive. If you plan to have an assistant help you during the test drive, calibrate the gauge while both of you are sitting in the vehicle.

Steering Wheel Offset Gauge

The steering wheel offset gauge is a sticker that attaches to the steering wheel and the steering column cover. Place the sticker on the steering wheel when the steering wheel is straight. When you test-drive the vehicle, you can read how many millimeters the steering wheel is off-center.
NOTE :If the vehicle is pulling, repairing the pull may correct the steering wheel offset.

DIAGNOSTIC WORKSHEET

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iknowmysh1t · 08-16-2007, 12:33 AM

sorry the pics didnt show up but you guys get the idea...

HkyGrL2 · 08-16-2007, 12:36 AM

where did you get that from? any info on vin numbers? It says it's for 2006, but then it says it's for 99-07?

iknowmysh1t · 08-16-2007, 12:43 AM

its from alldata and yes it affects ALL 99-07 including YOURS. hope that helps =)

nameless · 08-16-2007, 12:55 AM

we need to pay to see the Honda TSB on alldata

How can I show the guys at the dealership that there's something posted on TSB for specific issue if they don't know what i am talking about?... without paying alldata

iknowmysh1t · 08-16-2007, 12:57 AM

just tell them to look up that tsb number

iknowmysh1t · 08-16-2007, 12:58 AM

i feel so unappreciated...

HkyGrL2 · 08-16-2007, 01:10 AM

OK thanks

Oh wait, I gotta freakin' pay to see the bulletins! ugh

iknowmysh1t · 08-16-2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HkyGrL2

OK thanks

***NitrousG35*** · 08-16-2007, 10:05 AM

I have a slight pulling to the left while driving. It has been that way since I got the car. Might have to have it checked.

06si · 08-16-2007, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodums

I don't believe it will be an alignment or balancing issue. There was a TSB I've glanced over before and it addressed this issue. They had to disassemble the steering rack (don't quote me on this...) or something steering related and readjusted the steering wheel.

my car just started pulling right recently but i've never seen a TSB on it. Do you have a website where i can find that info.

nsl · 08-16-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

I have a slight pulling to the left while driving. It has been that way since I got the car. Might have to have it checked.

Well,at least I'm not the only one.Pulling to the left can be more dangerous that pulling to the right.If your not paying attention you can go head on into oncoming traffic,or sideswipe someone.If it goes to the right(actually,it should,slightly) you may run off the road,but have less of a chance of hitting someone else.Everyone else complains about right hand pull,but that is normal to some extent.Actually,it shouldn't pull at all,but it should drift after awhile due to the crown.

08-13-2007, 11:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
nsl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 264 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Anyones car have a slight pull to the left? My 2007 Si Coupe seems to have a slight pull to the left,which is the opposite(spell?) of what most have.I had the tires rotated and balanced today and it didn't change.Will the Honda dealer check this for me under warranty and for free?Anyway,my last car did the same thing even after three alignments and new tires.I could actually shift into the left lane just by turning loose of the wheel.I sold it and bought the Honda,but the Honda is doing the same.I would rather have the car pull to the right and not the left.Any advise?

08-13-2007, 11:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Yodums Scrodums Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 7,993 Hiro Nakamura iTrader: 9 / 100%	I don't believe it will be an alignment or balancing issue. There was a TSB I've glanced over before and it addressed this issue. They had to disassemble the steering rack (don't quote me on this...) or something steering related and readjusted the steering wheel. __________________ 2007 Taffeta White Civic Si Coupe

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HkyGrL2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: "A-town", Virginia Posts: 1,689 HEY YOU GUUUUYYYS! iTrader: 0 / 0%	I had the same issues and the bastards charged me for allignment. Drove off and it was though as nothing had been done!

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iknowmysh1t Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 973 iTrader: 0 / 0%	2006 Honda Civic Si L4-2.0L Vehicle Level Technical Service Bulletins All Technical Service Bulletins Steering/Suspension - Vehicle Pull/Drift To One Side Steering/Suspension - Vehicle Pull/Drift To One Side Notes 06-068 January 12, 2007 Applies To: ALL 1999-07 Models Vehicle Pulling or Drifting (Supersedes 06-068, dated November 18, 2006, to update the information marked by the black bars) SYMPTOM While driving on a straight road, the vehicle pulls or drifts to the right or left. BACKGROUND New tools were developed to help you diagnose and correct a pulling and/or steering wheel off-center issue. There is a diagnosis worksheet included to take on your test-drive and record your findings. These values are used to build the 15-digit DTC (diagnostic trouble code) that is required for your warranty claim. The last step in each repair procedure helps you create the correct code. In the rare case that you have to repair a vehicle that pulls and has the steering wheel off-center, use REPAIR PROCEDURE B to file your warranty claim. PROBABLE CAUSES Several conditions can cause the vehicle to pull or drift: ^ Wheel alignment ^ Tires ^ Steering wheel off-center (no pulling or drifting, but a customer may believe this is the case) CORRECTIVE ACTION Diagnose the problem using the special tools and the worksheet on page 4 that guides you to one of four repair procedures. TOOL INFORMATION WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION In warranty: The normal warranty applies. Failed Part: P/N 53560-SDA-A01 H/C 7139652 Defect Code: 07406 Symptom Code: 03602 Skill Level: Repair Technician Diagnostic Trouble Code: To create the 15-digit DTC, see the applicable repair procedure. Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work. TOOL INFORMATION Holding Force Gauge The holding force gauge measures the amount of the pull on the vehicle. It is a bracket that counts as one weight, plus five removable weights. During the test-drive, attach the bracket and the weights to the steering wheel on the side opposite the pulling direction. For example, if the vehicle pulls to the right, attach the bracket and weights to the left side of the steering wheel. Start with the maximum amount of weight on the steering wheel, and remove the weights until the vehicle drives in a straight line. When recording the pull on the worksheet, write down the direction of the pull (left or right) and the number of weights required to balance the pull (one through six). For example, you have the bracket and two weights on the steering wheel. Record this as three weights. Road Crown Gauge The road crown gauge measures the amount of road crown. Almost all roads have a crown to help drain water during rainstorms. Use the suction cup to attach the road crown gauge bracket to the vehicle in a vertical position. If necessary, bend the bracket until the gauge is vertical. Once you attach and align the road crown gauge, calibrate the gauge to zero. There are two ways to calibrate the gauge: ^ Park the vehicle on a level surface, like an alignment rack, and calibrate the gauge by moving the gauge until the ball is on the zero mark. ^ If you do not have a perfectly flat surface, park the vehicle on a reasonably flat surface and note the gauge reading. Turn the vehicle 1800 and, with the tires in the same spot, note the new gauge reading. Then move the gauge half of the difference. Example, your first reading is +3 and after moving the vehicle, the gauge reads -1. The difference is 4 degrees. Position the gauge to read +1. NOTE :You must calibrate the gauge with the same weight in the vehicle that you will use for the test-drive. If you plan to have an assistant help you during the test drive, calibrate the gauge while both of you are sitting in the vehicle. Steering Wheel Offset Gauge The steering wheel offset gauge is a sticker that attaches to the steering wheel and the steering column cover. Place the sticker on the steering wheel when the steering wheel is straight. When you test-drive the vehicle, you can read how many millimeters the steering wheel is off-center. NOTE :If the vehicle is pulling, repairing the pull may correct the steering wheel offset. DIAGNOSTIC WORKSHEET Disclaimer © 2007 ALLDATA LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use

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iknowmysh1t Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 973 iTrader: 0 / 0%	sorry the pics didnt show up but you guys get the idea...

08-16-2007, 12:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
HkyGrL2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: "A-town", Virginia Posts: 1,689 HEY YOU GUUUUYYYS! iTrader: 0 / 0%	where did you get that from? any info on vin numbers? It says it's for 2006, but then it says it's for 99-07?

08-16-2007, 12:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
iknowmysh1t Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 973 iTrader: 0 / 0%	its from alldata and yes it affects ALL 99-07 including YOURS. hope that helps =)

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nameless Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 55 iTrader: 0 / 0%	we need to pay to see the Honda TSB on alldata How can I show the guys at the dealership that there's something posted on TSB for specific issue if they don't know what i am talking about?... without paying alldata

08-16-2007, 12:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
iknowmysh1t Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 973 iTrader: 0 / 0%	just tell them to look up that tsb number

08-16-2007, 12:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
iknowmysh1t Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 973 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i feel so unappreciated...

08-16-2007, 01:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
HkyGrL2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: "A-town", Virginia Posts: 1,689 HEY YOU GUUUUYYYS! iTrader: 0 / 0%	OK thanks Oh wait, I gotta freakin' pay to see the bulletins! ugh

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*NitrousG35* Mr. Cowl Induction Join Date: May 2007 Location: To Infiniti and beyond... Posts: 8,919 Wild VTEC'n Bill iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have a slight pulling to the left while driving. It has been that way since I got the car. Might have to have it checked.