A gear grinding story

habanero07sdn · 07-22-2007, 10:43 PM

I, like so many others, have experienced the gear grinding problems in my Si. I read a post on Edmunds where some guy said "that's just the way Honda builds em, just push your clutch all the way to the floor before shifting"

Well, I was *SURE* I was already doing that, but when I started really paying attention, I noticed I was shifting with the clutch pedal somewhere in mid-flight, but close to the floor. Ever since I really started paying attention, no more grinding, even at 8200RPM quick shifts. Thought this might help some of you out.

DeePStr33tzOfTn · 07-23-2007, 12:31 AM

yeah i drove my car hard tonight and grinded the **** out of 2nd gear twice. it feels like 2nd gear is alot harder to get into than other gears.. but yeah.. all the way to the floor wont cause it to grind..this grinding is caused by us tryin to get into 2nd before we engage the clutch all the way

vietnati0nz · 07-23-2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DeePStr33tzOfTn

yeah i drove my car hard tonight and grinded the **** out of 2nd gear twice. it feels like 2nd gear is alot harder to get into than other gears.. but yeah.. all the way to the floor wont cause it to grind..this grinding is caused by us tryin to get into 2nd before we engage the clutch all the way

I love my 2nd gear, it pulls hard and chirps

nayilsi · 07-23-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vietnati0nz

I love my 2nd gear, it pulls hard and chirps

how do u make it chirp ?

i am not used to driving hard.

A real Honda Tech · 07-23-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nayilsi

how do u make it chirp ?

i am not used to driving hard.

Shift really fast... you can do it in 3rd too.

Will06SI · 07-23-2007, 09:11 PM

How much grinding of 2cd gear would i take to ruin it i have grinded it at least 3 or 4 times with in 20k miles ?

cation · 07-23-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nayilsi

how do u make it chirp ?

i am not used to driving hard.

By not driving smooth.

Nighthawk07 · 07-23-2007, 10:09 PM

I can spin the tires going into second, with a slow shift.

Will06SI · 07-23-2007, 10:34 PM

Ive never chirped in the SI i always try to shift smoothly even when pushing It !

USDM-FG2 · 07-23-2007, 10:38 PM

i can chirp 3rd pretty good lol when its dry out lol

Nighthawk07 · 07-23-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Will06SI

Ive never chirped in the SI i always try to shift smoothly even when pushing It !

That's no fun! But I respect you not wanting to trash your transmission. I'm slowly pulling myself away from shifting hard and riding it to redline every single time I pull out of a stop light. I just can't help it sometimes, it's so much fun haha.

***Izzy*** · 07-23-2007, 10:48 PM

Yeah, 2nd's hard to get smoothly, it feels sharp and unforgiving, as opposed to my 3rd, which suddenly seems uberly forgiving -- it only pops out when I'm shifting OUT of gear. I used to get chirps on semi-smooth shifts to 2nd, but I attribute that to crap tires that take a bit to bite. New wheels don't really chirp, they just GRAAAAAAAAAB.

Will06SI · 07-23-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nighthawk07

That's no fun! But I respect you not wanting to trash your transmission. I'm slowly pulling myself away from shifting hard and riding it to redline every single time I pull out of a stop light. I just can't help it sometimes, it's so much fun haha.

When i get my skunk2 exhaust tomorrow i will redline more often in 1st LOL !

Nighthawk07 · 07-23-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Will06SI

When i get my skunk2 exhaust tomorrow i will redline more often in 1st LOL !

Haha, yeah, ever since I got my intake I can't keep my foot out of the gas because it sounds so good. The header/exhaust just made my situation worse though.

***Freq18hz*** · 07-23-2007, 11:27 PM

people who experience the gear grind issue, experience it with the clutch fully depressed.

The isue arises from the design of the transmission, not the operation of the clutch.

-Freq

DeePStr33tzOfTn · 07-24-2007, 05:34 AM

just drive and dont think about if ur about to grind a gear

07-22-2007, 10:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
habanero07sdn Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wheeling WV Posts: 6 Jeff iTrader: 0 / 0%	A gear grinding story I, like so many others, have experienced the gear grinding problems in my Si. I read a post on Edmunds where some guy said "that's just the way Honda builds em, just push your clutch all the way to the floor before shifting" Well, I was SURE I was already doing that, but when I started really paying attention, I noticed I was shifting with the clutch pedal somewhere in mid-flight, but close to the floor. Ever since I really started paying attention, no more grinding, even at 8200RPM quick shifts. Thought this might help some of you out.

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DeePStr33tzOfTn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crossville, TN Posts: 1,834 Joey iTrader: 3 / 100%	yeah i drove my car hard tonight and grinded the **** out of 2nd gear twice. it feels like 2nd gear is alot harder to get into than other gears.. but yeah.. all the way to the floor wont cause it to grind..this grinding is caused by us tryin to get into 2nd before we engage the clutch all the way

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Will06SI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "NYC in Vtak" Age: 24 Posts: 10,110 Will iTrader: 3 / 100%	How much grinding of 2cd gear would i take to ruin it i have grinded it at least 3 or 4 times with in 20k miles ?

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Nighthawk07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rockledge, Florida Age: 21 Posts: 5,735 Mikey iTrader: 4 / 100%	I can spin the tires going into second, with a slow shift.

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Will06SI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "NYC in Vtak" Age: 24 Posts: 10,110 Will iTrader: 3 / 100%	Ive never chirped in the SI i always try to shift smoothly even when pushing It !

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USDM-FG2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, NH Age: 19 Posts: 255 Dan S. iTrader: 0 / 0%	i can chirp 3rd pretty good lol when its dry out lol

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*Izzy* Supreme Pizza! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Azusa, CA Age: 25 Posts: 11,935 iTrader: 5 / 100%	Yeah, 2nd's hard to get smoothly, it feels sharp and unforgiving, as opposed to my 3rd, which suddenly seems uberly forgiving -- it only pops out when I'm shifting OUT of gear. I used to get chirps on semi-smooth shifts to 2nd, but I attribute that to crap tires that take a bit to bite. New wheels don't really chirp, they just GRAAAAAAAAAB.

07-23-2007, 11:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
*Freq18hz* car salesman beware Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 863 iTrader: 0 / 0%	people who experience the gear grind issue, experience it with the clutch fully depressed. The isue arises from the design of the transmission, not the operation of the clutch. -Freq

07-24-2007, 05:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
DeePStr33tzOfTn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crossville, TN Posts: 1,834 Joey iTrader: 3 / 100%	just drive and dont think about if ur about to grind a gear