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Old 06-30-2007, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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07 civic lx noise from reverse to drive

I recently purchased an 07 honda civic lx coupe automatic and I absolutely love it. However almost everytime I reserve my car and then put it in to drive and let off the brake and begin to straighten out the wheel I get a very loud cracking noise. At times the noise has even sounded like I have bottomed out according to other people who have heard it. Also go figure that ever time I take my car to the dealer they either cant hear the noise or when they do they cant find the problem. Any suggestions as to what the problem could be or does anyone else have this problem?
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Does the noise occur during the transition from R to D or after you have put it in D?
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Try taking it to another dealer, that sounds like a strange issue. Keep complaining and be persistent (Not nasty though...). Maybe you can at least get them to put it on the lift and make sure everything is nice and tight down their.
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I recently purchased an 07 honda civic lx coupe automatic and I absolutely love it. However almost everytime I reserve my car and then put it in to drive and let off the brake and begin to straighten out the wheel I get a very loud cracking noise. At times the noise has even sounded like I have bottomed out according to other people who have heard it. Also go figure that ever time I take my car to the dealer they either cant hear the noise or when they do they cant find the problem. Any suggestions as to what the problem could be or does anyone else have this problem?
i have some sound like that

it's like a loud zip tie sound, loud clicking

the guy at honda said it's normal
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have had this noise, very loud at time, for 13K, dealers never knew what it was nor did they seem really interested in finding out.

I just live with it but it annoys both my wife and I as it's very loud sometimes.
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Does the noise occur during the transition from R to D or after you have put it in D?
the noise occurs after its in drive and i release the break. and the thing is that they have had it on the lift 3 times for that issue and they say everything looks fine. Plus I used to work there so all the techs know me and i know they arent lying to me its just annoying because some of them can hear the noise and others cant however everything looks perfect.
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it sounds like the rotors are just shifting a little bit. if so its very normal
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the noise occurs after its in drive and i release the break. and the thing is that they have had it on the lift 3 times for that issue and they say everything looks fine. Plus I used to work there so all the techs know me and i know they arent lying to me its just annoying because some of them can hear the noise and others cant however everything looks perfect.
Shlee, like I said above, I have had this noise, very bad at times for more than 13K, its getting a little louder now and my wife and friends usually ask me what that noise is.

Honda has checked my car and advise me that everything is fine.

13K later, no problems other than the noise.

I still think I should not have to hear this loud crack all the time but what can ya do.
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the noise occurs after its in drive and i release the break. and the thing is that they have had it on the lift 3 times for that issue and they say everything looks fine. Plus I used to work there so all the techs know me and i know they arent lying to me its just annoying because some of them can hear the noise and others cant however everything looks perfect.
Do you find that it happens particularly after you've left your car outside overnight? Is it happen after a damp night? What I'm thinking is that the rotors have built up some oxidation overnight. When you go to apply your brakes to shift from P to D, the oxidation causes your pads to momentarily stick to your rotors. They'll eventually pop back into place, making that cracking noise. My theory of why your shop can't figure out what's wrong is because by the time you take your car in to the shop, your brake pads will have cleaned off all the oxidation on your rotors, so they never experience the problem.

You can mention this as a theory to your shop and see what they think. If they say you're crazy, at least it might lead them to other theories of what it could be. If all else fails, you can write to Tom and Ray Magliozzi (the Click and Clack guys) at cartalk.com.

The problem I have with my auto EX sedan is that when I shift from P to R, if I'm not depressing the brake with enough pressure, I'll get a loud cracking sound. Basically, if I'm not depressing the brake enough, the car is moving just ever so slightly, and when I shift from P to R, I'm not giving a chance for the tranny to properly sync up. You may have the same problem when you shift from R to N to D. You can try stepping on your brake a bit harder when you shift between P and D.
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All the civics, accords,cr-v,pilots, have this noise.It it the pads shifting when you go from reverse to forward. this is normal on all this models.
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Do you find that it happens particularly after you've left your car outside overnight? Is it happen after a damp night? What I'm thinking is that the rotors have built up some oxidation overnight. When you go to apply your brakes to shift from P to D, the oxidation causes your pads to momentarily stick to your rotors. They'll eventually pop back into place, making that cracking noise. My theory of why your shop can't figure out what's wrong is because by the time you take your car in to the shop, your brake pads will have cleaned off all the oxidation on your rotors, so they never experience the problem.

You can mention this as a theory to your shop and see what they think. If they say you're crazy, at least it might lead them to other theories of what it could be. If all else fails, you can write to Tom and Ray Magliozzi (the Click and Clack guys) at cartalk.com.

The problem I have with my auto EX sedan is that when I shift from P to R, if I'm not depressing the brake with enough pressure, I'll get a loud cracking sound. Basically, if I'm not depressing the brake enough, the car is moving just ever so slightly, and when I shift from P to R, I'm not giving a chance for the tranny to properly sync up. You may have the same problem when you shift from R to N to D. You can try stepping on your brake a bit harder when you shift between P and D.
well thanks for the suggestion however it happens all the time even if i have parked my car for lets say 10 minutes and then get back in and go from P to R to D it cracks regardless of the weather. Also i have tried pressing on the brake harder and lighter and nothing seems to help also to kero and htec17 the noise according to the techs at the honda dealership i worked for have stated that this is not a normal noise and they have also contacted Honda directly for any service bulletins or complaints on the issue and nothing. They just cant seem to find the problem not to mention the noise isnt and hasnt been the only thing wrong. And to kero if i were you and the noise is getting louder and they keep saying everything is fine i suggest getting a second opinion if you havent unless yours sounds different then mine i wouldnt think everything was fine.
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well thanks for the suggestion however it happens all the time even if i have parked my car for lets say 10 minutes and then get back in and go from P to R to D it cracks regardless of the weather. Also i have tried pressing on the brake harder and lighter and nothing seems to help also to kero and htec17 the noise according to the techs at the honda dealership i worked for have stated that this is not a normal noise and they have also contacted Honda directly for any service bulletins or complaints on the issue and nothing. They just cant seem to find the problem not to mention the noise isnt and hasnt been the only thing wrong. And to kero if i were you and the noise is getting louder and they keep saying everything is fine i suggest getting a second opinion if you havent unless yours sounds different then mine i wouldnt think everything was fine.
Shlee, no, my noise is exactly the same as your and happens exactly as you describe. The only thing I was able to find was one person on the edmunds forums, had the dealership retourqe the entire front end and his noise went away. The dealership advised him the front end components were over tighted during assembly.

I brought the info to my dealership and you know what happened, they would not do the work since they could not determine the problem.

I might be trading in the new few months as I am growing tired of the problems I have even though for the most part I like the car. The value has not stayed as some would think.

My car at a few places, not a ding, dent or scuff on the car, no accidents, was valued at 13K. These places advise the problem being to many civics are being traded and it's hard for them to unload them.

I went and looked the scionXB and the new one is roomy and has the utility I need. A honda element is to expensive as I will no doubt have some negative equity on the car.

The only thing I can say is that until I need new brakes up front, I have not noticed any mechanical issues due to the noise but am curious when the front brakes are changed, if they find any abnormal wear on the pads or rotors. I always thought in my mind a caliper might have been sticking or a pad was moving around in the caliper.
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when you took the info you found to the dealer did they even look at the car to try and determine if that was your problem as well? thats strange well as for me im taking mine back in on monday for them to check it out again and see if someone can find a solution or the cause so if i get an answer i will keep you posted. and yea the scion xB is nice my friend has an 06 not very fast though are you looking at the 07 or a used one?
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when you took the info you found to the dealer did they even look at the car to try and determine if that was your problem as well? thats strange well as for me im taking mine back in on monday for them to check it out again and see if someone can find a solution or the cause so if i get an answer i will keep you posted. and yea the scion xB is nice my friend has an 06 not very fast though are you looking at the 07 or a used one?
2008 Xb with much more power and space. I like the look of the original but like the power and more space of the new one.

Pricing is really good to considering what a person gets.
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I back out of my garage up a slight hill every morning. When I switch to Drive, I get a very distinct CLANK.
Here are a couple of possibilities:
(1) When you put torque into the transmission in reverse, the gears generate a load in one direction. This is often the opposite direction of the loads in drive. Since the countershaft is supported by a single deep groove ball bearing, you would get a metallic noise when you make the load direction change.
(2) There is a shift sleeve that toggles between Reverse and 5th. Engaging and disengaging this has the potential to make a clanking noise.
It is slightly annoying and absolutely harmless.

I've spent 10 years designing parts for automatic transmissions. The best way I could characterize Honda's design practice is "quirky".
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I back out of my garage up a slight hill every morning. When I switch to Drive, I get a very distinct CLANK.
Here are a couple of possibilities:
(1) When you put torque into the transmission in reverse, the gears generate a load in one direction. This is often the opposite direction of the loads in drive. Since the countershaft is supported by a single deep groove ball bearing, you would get a metallic noise when you make the load direction change.
(2) There is a shift sleeve that toggles between Reverse and 5th. Engaging and disengaging this has the potential to make a clanking noise.
It is slightly annoying and absolutely harmless.

I've spent 10 years designing parts for automatic transmissions. The best way I could characterize Honda's design practice is "quirky".
My noise only happens when releasing the brake pedal after reverse to drive or drive to reverse. It sounds very much like a brake/caliper/rotor issue, not a tranny issue. The tranny noise you refer to I have heard in many cars and is not as loud as my CRACK in the front end.

It's a very odd thing that only a few people have reported or just don't care.

The other guy I mention earlier took his car back to the dealer 5 times until they called down a regional tech who retorqued the whole front end. They loosened all the components, retightened to spec and voila front end CRACK went away. My dealership refuses to do this since they think there is no problem. Such is life.
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well heres the updated! i took my car back to honda and they kept it all day and test drove it and test drove another car just like mine and they finally heard the cracking noise on my car and the other. so at this point it is not just a problem on my car but since the car is so new honda hasnt come out with a fix yet. so its a waiting game for them to come up with a solution but it isnt dangerous just annoying. hope no one else comes up with this problem until after the fix is out
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well heres the updated! i took my car back to honda and they kept it all day and test drove it and test drove another car just like mine and they finally heard the cracking noise on my car and the other. so at this point it is not just a problem on my car but since the car is so new honda hasnt come out with a fix yet. so its a waiting game for them to come up with a solution but it isnt dangerous just annoying. hope no one else comes up with this problem until after the fix is out
Well at least they acknowledged the noise. My dealerships on my area won't even do that despite the fact is pretty obvious noise.

Keep us posted.
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I am having the same problem with my car and am growing quite concerned over this ongoing issue. Although the car is still under warranty, I sure hope it isn't a faulty transmission. A bad tranny is the reason why I switched over to a new car and the thought of that puts fear into me. Please keep us posted. I for one will provide an update when I take my car to the dealership in the near future.
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The sound is probably coming from the timing chain. Make sure you come to a complete stop before switching from R to D or vice versa.
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