Oil life question

[CivicBeater]

CivicBeater states that ehcees rules! Civicbeater also states that he has been on web forums for many years and has never seen anything like this.

[07civicex]

Im at 3600 miles on my R18 sedan and mine says 50% and I pretty much baby it..... I will change the oil at 5k regaurdless...

[linuxglobal]

so i have 6400 km in my 07 civic, no oil changes yet.. oil life is at 50%.

So i called honda to schedule an oil change, they told me to let the first change get up to 9000km and oil life % of 15% ... WTF!!!??!?!?!?

Ive replaced the oil with synthetic in all of my cars at around 5000 km regardless of oil life or w.e the car uses.

So should i replace my oil asap??? Ive heard this is just hondas way of being stupid to make u seem that their cars are worry free and then blow up on u after 60k km. I dont care how good their engineering is, good or bad motors will not work without gas or motor oil.

Please let me know since im about to curse at my dealer for being so ignorant and stupid about the matter. I want my oil changed and they keep on telling me im wrong and they're right. Ive never heard of oil being replaced at 9000km, i dont want to damage this engine.

[bangmonsta]

Originally Posted by linuxglobal

so i have 6400 km in my 07 civic, no oil changes yet.. oil life is at 50%.

So i called honda to schedule an oil change, they told me to let the first change get up to 9000km and oil life % of 15% ... WTF!!!??!?!?!?

Ive replaced the oil with synthetic in all of my cars at around 5000 km regardless of oil life or w.e the car uses.

So should i replace my oil asap??? Ive heard this is just hondas way of being stupid to make u seem that their cars are worry free and then blow up on u after 60k km. I dont care how good their engineering is, good or bad motors will not work without gas or motor oil.

Please let me know since im about to curse at my dealer for being so ignorant and stupid about the matter. I want my oil changed and they keep on telling me im wrong and they're right. Ive never heard of oil being replaced at 9000km, i dont want to damage this engine.

I think they've done their research at the factory. If they can safely recommend u to keep your oil for XXX miles it's probably a safe thing to do. I'd change at about 30% if u want to be on the safe side.

With that said, Honda puts in special additives at the factory to help the engine break-in- another reason to keep it in there a lil longer. After that, go at whatever interval you are comfortable with, you dont really have to listen them if u dont want to

[jennerz22]

I've gone over 3k and mine is just on 60%.

[black07coupe]

Originally Posted by thicklove

Thicklove has noticed that Ehcees writes very properly and formats in a visually pleasing manor with title and bulletin style separation. Thicklove also noticed that Ehcees likes to refer to himself in 3rd person.
Reason: Unknown.

LOL hahahaha, i noticed that on a different thread. Hilarious

[linuxglobal]

Originally Posted by black07coupe

LOL hahahaha, i noticed that on a different thread. Hilarious

What is this Ehcees crap??? someone must have too much time on their hands.

I noticed some vtec talk at the beginning LOL.... WOW i have noticed my civic is as slow as they come HAHHA especially in passing... its like that engine performs the same at any rpm. I guess its good and bad. I wish they put a bigger engine in the EX models, maybe i should have just bought the CSX

[black07coupe]

Originally Posted by linuxglobal

What is this Ehcees crap??? someone must have too much time on their hands.

I noticed some vtec talk at the beginning LOL.... WOW i have noticed my civic is as slow as they come HAHHA especially in passing... its like that engine performs the same at any rpm. I guess its good and bad. I wish they put a bigger engine in the EX models, maybe i should have just bought the CSX

yes our cars are slow and have no balls. on the highway you gotta drop to 3rd to get by someone.. if you drop to 4th you'll wonder what just happened.

[linuxglobal]

Originally Posted by black07coupe

yes our cars are slow and have no balls. on the highway you gotta drop to 3rd to get by someone.. if you drop to 4th you'll wonder what just happened.

well its a small car, small engine. Its an economic commuter... and it does a good job. Very stable and reliable for the most part (i hope). I like how responsive the electronics are, the mtc fan, heat etc.... i dislike the huge dash and i can never keep track of the gas level in this car... its so annoying. I keep on thinking its the engine heat and vice versa.

ive never owned a honda before, and the salesman got all cocky about how im like fing retarded for never having one.... i ended up not getting it from that dealer anyways .. but ya i must say im not like head over heels impressed with their cars now. Maybe cuz its an entry level car but still pretty pricey for an i4. Mine had a messed up door, wouldnt close properly (like the weld was messed up) so that went in to the body shop. IT made a loud bang when u turned the steering wheel, now its gone away after i took it in. Sometimes kind of makes it.

So i know ppl bash american cars as i have another car thats american but honda is nothing to brag about in all aspects either. Die hard fans will swear by them, i know this.

Ill see how reliability is too, my parents have always owned american cars, gms etc.... and GM seems to be the most reliable so far even for my dad who knows nothing about cars and his work van has like 300000 km LOL...

Maybe the honda craze will grow on me. Until then i have to just criticize all of these little issues im having with my civic.

[dejavu]

Originally Posted by black07coupe

yes our cars are slow and have no balls. on the highway you gotta drop to 3rd to get by someone.. if you drop to 4th you'll wonder what just happened.

This is my fifth Honda if you count the two Acuras and I do. Here's the deal: Honda four-bangers are designed to accelerate at high RPMS. And they love to spin up high, unlike many other designs that seem to hit a wall of friction at 5,000 RPMs.

My '86 Integra had plenty of responsiveness on the freeway without shifting down, but it also made your teeth buzz because in 5th gear at 70mph it was turning about 3500 RPMs. No kidding. And it got about 33 mpg on the highway. Same thing with my brother's CRX-Si, which was even more responsive and was turning about 3800 RPMs at 70.

Our 1.8 Civics today have a larger engine and more horsepower than either of those cars, yet feel less responsive on the highway because they are geared for maximum fuel mileage instead of maximum responsiveness. If you would rather have the responsiveness and don't mind the extra gas and noise, just leave it in D3 and have a ball.

As for me, I love the new setup and don't mind shifting down when more power is needed. It's there, you just have to spin it up to find it. If you prefer driving a car that has low-end grunt but is no fun up high, you'd probably prefer something other than a Honda.

jp

[linuxglobal]

Originally Posted by dejavu

It's there, you just have to spin it up to find it. If you prefer driving a car that has low-end grunt but is no fun up high, you'd probably prefer something other than a Honda.

jp

i havent seen it yet LOL... .

im sure its there if u red line but thats no excuse for power. High revs are just overstraining the engine ... ya it will work but i see them all the time spitting blue smoke and running like shit later on in its life. Its just too heavy now and the engine is too small. Dropping gears is a pure ricer move, just to redline and rattle the fartcan noise in my face .... i see them do it to large v8s too and then the v8 gets pissed off LOL and its game over... i even saw a crx trying to show a 911 how to drive.... it was a GT2 too HHAHAHh. Its just a small commuter and i love it, but no race car, no power what soever and thats what they wanted. Must not forget the vtec kick in point HAHHAHHA .... thats how the crx planned to beat the 911 GT2... theres no vtec on the porsche LOL....

[bangmonsta]

Originally Posted by linuxglobal

i havent seen it yet LOL... .

im sure its there if u red line but thats no excuse for power. High revs are just overstraining the engine ... ya it will work but i see them all the time spitting blue smoke and running like shit later on in its life. Its just too heavy now and the engine is too small. Dropping gears is a pure ricer move, just to redline and rattle the fartcan noise in my face .... i see them do it to large v8s too and then the v8 gets pissed off LOL and its game over... i even saw a crx trying to show a 911 how to drive.... it was a GT2 too HHAHAHh. Its just a small commuter and i love it, but no race car, no power what soever and thats what they wanted. Must not forget the vtec kick in point HAHHAHHA .... thats how the crx planned to beat the 911 GT2... theres no vtec on the porsche LOL....

I dont know why you'd come to a Civic forum to compare Civics with v8's.. and Porsche for that matter. The performance comparison is moot, try comparing the prices, maybe you'd see a difference there.

If people rice and decide to drive recklessly or challenge v8's, that's their thing. You should criticize the driver in those cars, not the car itself. 2L displacement I4 vs 4-5L v8? Come on...

And try separating your paragraph with sentences, it works wonders instead of the "..." everywhere

[Firestrife]

Originally Posted by bangmonsta

I dont know why you'd come to a Civic forum to compare Civics with v8's.. and Porsche for that matter. The performance comparison is moot, try comparing the prices, maybe you'd see a difference there.

If people rice and decide to drive recklessly or challenge v8's, that's their thing. You should criticize the driver in those cars, not the car itself. 2L displacement I4 vs 4-5L v8? Come on...

And try separating your paragraph with sentences, it works wonders instead of the "..." everywhere

amen, +1 to that.
Coming on a Civic forum to bash civics is like going to the Manchester United side of the Old Trafford stadium and wearing a chelsea or barcelona jersey.
your just asking to get your a** kicked.

We are aware the fact there are ricers and idiot drivers in the world. Generalizing is a matter of opinion and time for you to grow up and realize this.

[linuxglobal]

im not comparing the civic to those cars, i just said ive seen it done and it looks ridiculous when civic owners think it can be done. Im sure uve seen it before, i just sit there and laugh.

Im not making fun of the civic!!!! >.>WTF!!??!?! what would make u think that... i said CRX which is what a 1990 civic???
I just said they are not fast like ppl in the thread are talking about vtec crap and hidden power.
I own a civic, so why would i be bashing it???

Civics cant even keep up with other I4s in its class, its just reliable. Lets not even talk about the V6. Like when i bought the civic it was between the civic or mazda 3 GT (same price as the EX i bought) and the Mazda was faster but with bad rep. hence i got the civic, but people cant sit there and tell me they race their stock civic bcs they're lying.

BTW im too lazy to separate the paragraphs. "..." works better, ill try hows that? HAHHAHA.

[bangmonsta]

Ok, my apologies for misunderstanding you. Ty for clearing that up and separating your paragraphs, it helps a lot :).

I agree with you, stock Civics aren't fast. They are just cheap. The reason civics can't keep up with other I4s is because 1) they are built to be economical (low price, high mpg) and 2) no induction whatsoever.

If they come stocked with Turbo I'm sure people will give I4 civic's more respect, but maybe that's coming later. I would soo trade my Si in if it comes turbo-ed at Factory and pushes 270+ hp.


Oh and btw, we're off topic. Let's shut up

[linuxglobal]

that would be nice ... HEHHE turboed civic... ive heard its quite the beast actually .... like the k20 motor with boost for its weight....

I know ppl talk a lot about the tsx motor into the CSX body since its a direct drop and turbo kit.

I have a lot of ricer friends so dont worry, its really hard trying to just agree with them even to 1% of what they talk about LOL. Im usually the one to sit there and just nod.

My civic is slow but i like it, very nice blend and it has a nice shape. Tons of LEDS too HAHAHHA...

About the paragraphs, in on hidplanet like non stop, with thousands for posts. I just rush in my responses, sorry about that.

About this oil issue, now its at alike 6800km and still 50% oil life I think im gonna call them to schedule my first oil change ever and follow it to about 7000km each time.

Does the oil life drop really quickly? Like 50% today, 30% 100 km later? Im not really sure, or does it mean that 6800km = 50% at the way i drive so it will get to like 15% around 10000km? Seems a bit too risky to just follow the oil life gauge.

CM

[ReillyFam]

I drive pretty conservatively with an occasional sprint to beat a light or make a lane change. I'm finding the autominder drops 10% for every 600 miles I drive. As a result, I'll be changing my oil about every 5,000 miles for the life of this car. BTW, I've been a Toyota person for many years and this is my first Honda. I'm really enjoying it--'07 Civic Sedan 5 sp. Also, this is my first time on this forum. Thanks for the information on this site.

[jonesthewine]

Just look at the oil color to know when to change. Has worked for Ehcees for 30 years.[/quote]

Jonesthewine believes that the color of the oil has nothing to do with determining when to change the oil. Miles driven, type of oil used and type of oil filter used are the most important factors.

[bangmonsta]

Originally Posted by jonesthewine

Just look at the oil color to know when to change. Has worked for Ehcees for 30 years.

Jonesthewine believes that the color of the oil has nothing to do with determining when to change the oil. Miles driven, type of oil used and type of oil filter used are the most important factors.[/quote]


But why are u talking in 3rd person? What's ur excuse? :P

The MM is there to ASSIST you, dont let it take it over. Change at the interval u're comfortable with, and change even if u dont drive a lot. Mineral oils aren't mean to last more than 6 months or so, and I believe fully syn can do 1yr+, but I woun'dt go over 1yr.

BTW, check out AMSOIL ASL with the Ea filter, it's what I ordered a few weeks ago. Will install at next oil change that shit's gonna last me like a year lol

[Tastycakes]

Anyone notice the guilt trip mode on the oil life meter?

I found out today that once it goes below 0% it displays -xxx miles. It actually shows you the miles you've gone over. I'm at about -50 right now, i really need to do it tomorrow.