Clutch Gone Bad

blueroadster · 05-28-2007, 11:06 PM

ryryninja stopped over today and I changed his clutch and pressure plate. He said that the clutch was worn and would not shift into reverse when the engine was running. The car had about 50k miles on the clock which seemed a little odd that the clutch would have been spent so soon considering the type of driving (mostly highway). In any event, he is now back on the road and is a happy camper. FWIW, during the install the clutch had plenty of material left, but the fell apart (I'll let him explain the circumstances). Now for the PICs:

Clutch side one showing PICs of parts from this side. The spring broke and lodged one end into the other:

Center shaft out of wack on the same side:

Same side:

Clutch side two showing PICs of parts from this side. Spring is the same one in the first PIC, just flipped over. At the 11 o'clock position, there is a portion of metal that sheered off and lodged under the clutch disk.

Same side where you can see all of the other cracks:

Same side:

Skylinegtr06 · 05-28-2007, 11:17 PM

damn, powershifting it seems

bioevolve · 05-28-2007, 11:20 PM

Yeah, clutch dumping going on there. If you didn't do it someone did before you bought that car.
Or defective.

blueroadster · 05-28-2007, 11:56 PM

He is the original owner...I'll let him explain the circumstances. Pilot bearing was fine and there was no excessive wear fon the pressure plate splines where the throwout bearing makes contact.

***rippars*** · 05-29-2007, 12:01 AM

didnt know it was that bad... aewsome that it was only his clutch and not his tranny!

bioevolve · 05-29-2007, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueroadster

He is the original owner...I'll let him explain the circumstances. Pilot bearing was fine and there was no excessive wear fon the pressure plate splines where the throwout bearing makes contact.

Meaning any test drivers before him, if there was.

**Yodums** · 05-29-2007, 12:12 AM

That looks rough. Did he replace it with a stock OEM clutch or did he go with an aftermarket one?

***rippars*** · 05-29-2007, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodums

That looks rough. Did he replace it with a stock OEM clutch or did he go with an aftermarket one?

i believe he did go aftermarket. not sure of the brand tho.

**webby** · 05-29-2007, 12:16 AM

in for more info.

I've seen other clutches where the center was offset and failed around 30-40k. (not hondas)

identical to this

blueroadster · 05-29-2007, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodums

That looks rough. Did he replace it with a stock OEM clutch or did he go with an aftermarket one?

Replaced with stock components.

articsilber323 · 05-29-2007, 12:46 AM

ide be showing that to honda

***ryryninja*** · 05-29-2007, 01:22 AM

Thanks again for the help blueroadster! Powershifting.. no never powershifted once in my life.. too scared too. I know I miss shifted early on when I first got the car over a year and a half ago because this is my first manual tranmission car. And no one test drove my car.

I do drive a lot, as I use my car for my job. Have I launched.. maybe a handfull at most.. I don't like to launch to be honest with you. I do downshift a lot. I will be cutting the downshifting a lot. I'm pretty sure I do downshift in excess at times.

No it has not been tracked but most of my driving is spirited.

Clutch disc actually had approx. 50% life in it left but as you can see it is unusable due to other damage. I'm sure it wouldn't be as bad as when I first noticed the problems but money to get a new clutch and time to get it installed was hard to come by.

Car drives like its new.. all gears engage like a hot knife thru butter. I know I'm relatively new to MT cars have a 18months experience now... but I don't abuse my car.

CliftNotes::
A few launches
Excessive downshifting
Maybe miss shift but that was when I first got the car
Exedy OEM Replacement

Thanks again blueroadster! I'm once again a happy Si owner

***fuller083*** · 05-29-2007, 01:31 AM

Damn... This is just the post I needed. My clutch blew on me last Friday night on my way home from Atlanta. I had to call a tow truck and they towed it to a Honda dealer around where I was. The car is still there and they say I need a new clutch disc, throwout bearing and pressure plate.. I'll try to post pics of my disc as well, if they give it back to me. How much did this run you if you don't mind me asking? They are quoting me around 875 bucks...

***ryryninja*** · 05-29-2007, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuller083

Damn... This is just the post I needed. My clutch blew on me last Friday night on my way home from Atlanta. I had to call a tow truck and they towed it to a Honda dealer around where I was. The car is still there and they say I need a new clutch disc, throwout bearing and pressure plate.. I'll try to post pics of my disc as well, if they give it back to me. How much did this run you if you don't mind me asking? They are quoting me around 875 bucks...

Well it depends if you plan on going OEM.. check on ebay for clutch kits by exedy for rsx type-s.

I got mine for 138 shipped. Comes with pressure plate, flywheel, throwout bearing, alignment tool and I think it came with a pilot bearing too right blueroadster?

And blueroadster, his neighbor and myself installed it so no labor fee.

PSU Pinoy PSU · 05-29-2007, 08:30 AM

If he was powershifting, he would have thrown his gears out along with the clutch. But as you can see, just clutch problems.

***ryryninja*** · 05-29-2007, 08:32 AM

oh and btw.. i saw blueroadster's ride... absolutely sick. didn't get to go for a spin.. but I will next time. it was already late.

blueroadster · 05-29-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webby

in for more info.

I've seen other clutches where the center was offset and failed around 30-40k. (not hondas)

identical to this

I'll post s PIC of my stock clutch later today. It looked fine and only had 7k miles on it before removal.

blueroadster · 05-29-2007, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryryninja

Well it depends if you plan on going OEM.. check on ebay for clutch kits by exedy for rsx type-s.

I got mine for 138 shipped. Comes with pressure plate, flywheel, throwout bearing, alignment tool and I think it came with a pilot bearing too right blueroadster?

And blueroadster, his neighbor and myself installed it so no labor fee.

Yup...The pilot bearing was also included.

blueroadster · 05-29-2007, 07:36 PM

Here are two PICs of my stock clutch removed after about 7k miles. As you can see, the gear is centered perfectly (it looks just a tad bit off, but that was because I did not align the camera dead center when taking the PIC).

First side:

Other side:

adoBoy619 · 05-29-2007, 08:12 PM

good thing with the labor free...btw..if you didnt go OEM, what other good options?

05-28-2007, 11:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
blueroadster Senior Member Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,573 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Clutch Gone Bad ryryninja stopped over today and I changed his clutch and pressure plate. He said that the clutch was worn and would not shift into reverse when the engine was running. The car had about 50k miles on the clock which seemed a little odd that the clutch would have been spent so soon considering the type of driving (mostly highway). In any event, he is now back on the road and is a happy camper. FWIW, during the install the clutch had plenty of material left, but the fell apart (I'll let him explain the circumstances). Now for the PICs: Clutch side one showing PICs of parts from this side. The spring broke and lodged one end into the other: Center shaft out of wack on the same side: Same side: Same side: Clutch side two showing PICs of parts from this side. Spring is the same one in the first PIC, just flipped over. At the 11 o'clock position, there is a portion of metal that sheered off and lodged under the clutch disk. Same side where you can see all of the other cracks: Same side: Same side:

05-29-2007, 12:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
Yodums Scrodums Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 8,480 HIRO - ಠ_ಠ iTrader: 10 / 100%	That looks rough. Did he replace it with a stock OEM clutch or did he go with an aftermarket one? __________________ 2007 Taffeta White Civic Si Coupe

05-29-2007, 01:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
*ryryninja* fap n nap™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: monument teh washington Age: 23 Posts: 53,446 205whp 147tq :D iTrader: 38 / 100%	Thanks again for the help blueroadster! Powershifting.. no never powershifted once in my life.. too scared too. I know I miss shifted early on when I first got the car over a year and a half ago because this is my first manual tranmission car. And no one test drove my car. I do drive a lot, as I use my car for my job. Have I launched.. maybe a handfull at most.. I don't like to launch to be honest with you. I do downshift a lot. I will be cutting the downshifting a lot. I'm pretty sure I do downshift in excess at times. No it has not been tracked but most of my driving is spirited. Clutch disc actually had approx. 50% life in it left but as you can see it is unusable due to other damage. I'm sure it wouldn't be as bad as when I first noticed the problems but money to get a new clutch and time to get it installed was hard to come by. Car drives like its new.. all gears engage like a hot knife thru butter. I know I'm relatively new to MT cars have a 18months experience now... but I don't abuse my car. CliftNotes:: A few launches Excessive downshifting Maybe miss shift but that was when I first got the car Exedy OEM Replacement Thanks again blueroadster! I'm once again a happy Si owner __________________ \|108K Miles\|I beat my tires harder than i beat my meat

05-29-2007, 08:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
*ryryninja* fap n nap™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: monument teh washington Age: 23 Posts: 53,446 205whp 147tq :D iTrader: 38 / 100%	oh and btw.. i saw blueroadster's ride... absolutely sick. didn't get to go for a spin.. but I will next time. it was already late. __________________ \|108K Miles\|I beat my tires harder than i beat my meat

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05-28-2007, 11:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Skylinegtr06 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chula Vista SD Age: 18 Posts: 5,745 edwyn(male) iTrader: 1 / 100%	damn, powershifting it seems

05-28-2007, 11:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
bioevolve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 432 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Yeah, clutch dumping going on there. If you didn't do it someone did before you bought that car. Or defective.

05-28-2007, 11:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
blueroadster Senior Member Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,573 iTrader: 7 / 100%	He is the original owner...I'll let him explain the circumstances. Pilot bearing was fine and there was no excessive wear fon the pressure plate splines where the throwout bearing makes contact.

05-29-2007, 12:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
webby Acorns! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Storage Room B Posts: 14,623 iTrader: 12 / 100%	in for more info. I've seen other clutches where the center was offset and failed around 30-40k. (not hondas) identical to this

05-29-2007, 12:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
articsilber323 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,017 iTrader: 6 / 100%	ide be showing that to honda

05-29-2007, 01:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
*fuller083* VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Valdosta, Ga Age: 25 Posts: 454 Mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	Damn... This is just the post I needed. My clutch blew on me last Friday night on my way home from Atlanta. I had to call a tow truck and they towed it to a Honda dealer around where I was. The car is still there and they say I need a new clutch disc, throwout bearing and pressure plate.. I'll try to post pics of my disc as well, if they give it back to me. How much did this run you if you don't mind me asking? They are quoting me around 875 bucks...

05-29-2007, 08:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
PSU Pinoy PSU Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Royersford, PA Age: 26 Posts: 1,288 Eric iTrader: 6 / 100%	If he was powershifting, he would have thrown his gears out along with the clutch. But as you can see, just clutch problems.

05-29-2007, 07:36 PM	#19 (permalink)
blueroadster Senior Member Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,573 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Here are two PICs of my stock clutch removed after about 7k miles. As you can see, the gear is centered perfectly (it looks just a tad bit off, but that was because I did not align the camera dead center when taking the PIC). First side: Other side:

05-29-2007, 08:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
adoBoy619 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virignia Beach/ San Diego Age: 25 Posts: 496 Rollin iTrader: 0 / 0%	good thing with the labor free...btw..if you didnt go OEM, what other good options?

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