Shift hard car fall on its face

slostjoe · 04-04-2007, 04:20 PM

whenever i shift hard the car fall complelty on its face no matter what gear i go into and i have an 07 si 4door and it does this with the traction control on or off same thing

Nighthawk07 · 04-04-2007, 04:24 PM

what rpms are you shifting at? and are you 100% the VSA is off?

subee13 · 04-04-2007, 04:53 PM

I have the same thing (07 si sedan) and I have no problems

k20beast · 04-04-2007, 05:05 PM

yeaa... well u could be droppin the clutch a lil before u floor it again. tryin power shifting and see if u have the problem still. and make sure vsa is off if your shifting to 2nd or 3rd.

Kroze · 04-04-2007, 05:54 PM

It's a very common problem where people "shift real hard" on their civic and have the car "fall flat on its face"......

the problem can be remedied by learning how to drive a stickshift properly, which can be .......hard.

RWatters · 04-04-2007, 05:58 PM

Another option is you're falling out of VTEC when you shift. Going from 180whp to 125whp is quite a "fall on it's face" if you ask me.

slostjoe · 04-04-2007, 06:44 PM

no 1000% sure the vsa is off i have had all manuel tranny cars and even my bros si doesnt do this trust me i can drive this is the least horsepower car i have ever owned though but i thought it just might be an 07 thing btw if i wot shift it wont do this hbut if i wot in my v6 6spd accord it looses power so? and btw im shifting at about 8200 or so

k20beast · 04-04-2007, 10:48 PM

well u wont fall out of vtec if u drive it good.... i never lose vtec once its in

AXIS · 04-04-2007, 11:02 PM

thats what kinda sucks is that it can make your run or break it, i think the times i've gone to the track i've fallin out cuz i ran mid 15's, but i would shift before 8 because the tach flys by that anyway, next time i'll shit right at 8, whats the rev limiter and fuel cut off?

bboylocob · 04-04-2007, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXIS

thats what kinda sucks is that it can make your run or break it, i think the times i've gone to the track i've fallin out cuz i ran mid 15's, but i would shift before 8 because the tach flys by that anyway, next time i'll shit right at 8, whats the rev limiter and fuel cut off?

instant weight reduction at 8!!!!

07Sin4Door · 04-04-2007, 11:18 PM

[quote=bboylocob]instant weight reduction at 8!!!![/QUOT
HAHAHA BUAHAHA

somedaySI · 04-04-2007, 11:27 PM

make sure the car is getting gas before you release the clutch? I've noticed the DBW is slower to respond than the clutch. Also, release the clutch slower?

If these are not the problem, high-flow intake and hondata reflash are recommended

TJ213 · 04-04-2007, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bboylocob

instant weight reduction at 8!!!!

slostjoe · 04-05-2007, 12:31 AM

it has somethin to do with bein an 07 because the 4 06's i have driven didnt do this so im gonna go with hondata see what happens :)

k20beast · 04-05-2007, 01:31 AM

i shift around 8200... right before rev limitier

07Sin4Door · 04-05-2007, 01:36 AM

im going to say the same here as I did in another thread Hitting I-VTEC is crucial? the drop in the dyno...theres your "fallin" feeling..after you shift your rpm are prob in this stage

Jardiniboy · 04-05-2007, 07:54 AM

Just shift when the light turns solid. Not when it blinks.

04-04-2007, 04:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
slostjoe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 3,807 Skyler iTrader: 4 / 100%	Shift hard car fall on its face whenever i shift hard the car fall complelty on its face no matter what gear i go into and i have an 07 si 4door and it does this with the traction control on or off same thing

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somedaySI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MA Posts: 122 iTrader: 0 / 0%	make sure the car is getting gas before you release the clutch? I've noticed the DBW is slower to respond than the clutch. Also, release the clutch slower? If these are not the problem, high-flow intake and hondata reflash are recommended Last edited by somedaySI; 04-04-2007 at 11:34 PM.

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04-04-2007, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nighthawk07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rockledge, Florida Age: 21 Posts: 5,735 Mikey iTrader: 4 / 100%	what rpms are you shifting at? and are you 100% the VSA is off?

04-04-2007, 04:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
subee13 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 467 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have the same thing (07 si sedan) and I have no problems

04-04-2007, 05:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
k20beast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: clemson SC Age: 19 Posts: 1,160 zack iTrader: 2 / 100%	yeaa... well u could be droppin the clutch a lil before u floor it again. tryin power shifting and see if u have the problem still. and make sure vsa is off if your shifting to 2nd or 3rd.

04-04-2007, 05:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kroze Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 668 iTrader: 0 / 0%	It's a very common problem where people "shift real hard" on their civic and have the car "fall flat on its face"...... the problem can be remedied by learning how to drive a stickshift properly, which can be .......hard.

04-04-2007, 05:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
RWatters Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Overland Park, KS Age: 24 Posts: 2,073 iTrader: 10 / 100%	Another option is you're falling out of VTEC when you shift. Going from 180whp to 125whp is quite a "fall on it's face" if you ask me.

04-04-2007, 06:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
slostjoe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 3,807 Skyler iTrader: 4 / 100%	no 1000% sure the vsa is off i have had all manuel tranny cars and even my bros si doesnt do this trust me i can drive this is the least horsepower car i have ever owned though but i thought it just might be an 07 thing btw if i wot shift it wont do this hbut if i wot in my v6 6spd accord it looses power so? and btw im shifting at about 8200 or so

04-04-2007, 10:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
k20beast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: clemson SC Age: 19 Posts: 1,160 zack iTrader: 2 / 100%	well u wont fall out of vtec if u drive it good.... i never lose vtec once its in

04-04-2007, 11:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
AXIS Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So. Cal Age: 28 Posts: 542 iTrader: 0 / 0%	thats what kinda sucks is that it can make your run or break it, i think the times i've gone to the track i've fallin out cuz i ran mid 15's, but i would shift before 8 because the tach flys by that anyway, next time i'll shit right at 8, whats the rev limiter and fuel cut off?

04-04-2007, 11:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
07Sin4Door Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Posts: 447 Dan iTrader: 0 / 0%	[quote=bboylocob]instant weight reduction at 8!!!![/QUOT HAHAHA BUAHAHA

04-05-2007, 12:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
slostjoe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 3,807 Skyler iTrader: 4 / 100%	it has somethin to do with bein an 07 because the 4 06's i have driven didnt do this so im gonna go with hondata see what happens :)

04-05-2007, 01:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
k20beast Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: clemson SC Age: 19 Posts: 1,160 zack iTrader: 2 / 100%	i shift around 8200... right before rev limitier

04-05-2007, 01:36 AM	#16 (permalink)
07Sin4Door Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Posts: 447 Dan iTrader: 0 / 0%	im going to say the same here as I did in another thread Hitting I-VTEC is crucial? the drop in the dyno...theres your "fallin" feeling..after you shift your rpm are prob in this stage

04-05-2007, 07:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jardiniboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 3,860 Jasten iTrader: 2 / 100%	Just shift when the light turns solid. Not when it blinks.