1st gear and Vtec

06blaksi · 03-06-2007, 08:56 AM

I had a problem when I was running the stock tires after they were worn. As soon as I hit vtec in first, they would break loose. I attributed this to the tires being bald. I replaced them with the same size Kumho Solus to try and keep the same tread pattern as the rear stockers. Now if I run first up and hit vtec, I get slight wheel-hop as soon as vtec kicks in. Enough to vibrate the inside of the car. I suppose I'll have to get yet another set of tires to fix this.
It's not like I have massive amounts of hp here. Has anyone else had this problem?

stevenshizzle · 03-06-2007, 09:43 AM

Not yet, but I reckon a torque damper may help out at VTEC engagement. Tell you the truth, I don't really floor my car in first because I know that my tires may break loose. I should try it more often.

xmx250 · 03-06-2007, 11:10 AM

No i dont have that problem at all. Actaully i couldnt imagine my tires hopping or breaking loose on VTEC engagement. Wow i wonder if my car is making low power?

honda06si · 03-06-2007, 11:12 AM

have you broke the tires in? i mean you probably already know to do this but maybe you forgot. all new tires have like oil on them or something and they actually get traction like bald tires until they go through like 3 heat cycles

06blaksi · 03-06-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by honda06si

have you broke the tires in? i mean you probably already know to do this but maybe you forgot. all new tires have like oil on them or something and they actually get traction like bald tires until they go through like 3 heat cycles

They have almost 500 miles on them. I made a short road trip up to Hartford last weekend...60 miles each way. I think that should be enough.

honda06si · 03-06-2007, 11:18 AM

that sucks man! call kuhmo or something tell them your unsatisfied

xmx250 · 03-06-2007, 11:23 AM

Yeah maybe your tires are bad?

BTW when are you guys going back to the dyno?

06blaksi · 03-06-2007, 11:25 AM

Jordan is going back in the next week or two...he's getting Hondata...I won't be for a couple months after I get Hondata and possibly an exhaust

drexp2000 · 03-06-2007, 11:50 AM

Do you have a '07 model? If so, turn off VSA...

06blaksi · 03-06-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drexp2000

Do you have a '07 model? If so, turn off VSA...

No...2006 with 16k miles on it

60103 · 03-06-2007, 12:42 PM

happens to me once in a while when the roads really cold, like at night, but during the summer i never had a problem.

baz938 · 03-06-2007, 12:49 PM

^^^yea same for me too^^^, especailly today when its 5 degrees out but they dont break loose too bad

kurdtkobain87 · 03-06-2007, 08:50 PM

i was having this exact same problem with my toyo proxes 4. but then i found a solution. i never realized how much tire pressure affects performance til now. when i would spin in first my tire pressure was at 35psi. i dropped it down to 32psi and then put the rear tires at 29psi. now i get no wheel hop, but i sure do get sucked backed in my seat now.

06blaksi · 03-06-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kurdtkobain87

i was having this exact same problem with my toyo proxes 4. but then i found a solution. i never realized how much tire pressure affects performance til now. when i would spin in first my tire pressure was at 35psi. i dropped it down to 32psi and then put the rear tires at 29psi. now i get no wheel hop, but i sure do get sucked backed in my seat now.

Good input! I'll try that in the morning...thanks

**Qshooter151** · 03-06-2007, 09:56 PM

i get it sometimes too. just never really attributed it to anything. i have the summer tires still on the car and it's happened in both warm and cold weather...gonna adjust the pressure tomorrow and see if that helps...

...I'm going back to the dyno on my b-day! Mar 14th 6:00pm

06blaksi · 03-07-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Qshooter151

...I'm going back to the dyno on my b-day! Mar 14th 6:00pm

Can't wait to see the new numbers!!!

03-06-2007, 08:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
06blaksi Senior Member Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: in teh basement Age: 41 Posts: 49,431 iTrader: 23 / 100%	1st gear and Vtec I had a problem when I was running the stock tires after they were worn. As soon as I hit vtec in first, they would break loose. I attributed this to the tires being bald. I replaced them with the same size Kumho Solus to try and keep the same tread pattern as the rear stockers. Now if I run first up and hit vtec, I get slight wheel-hop as soon as vtec kicks in. Enough to vibrate the inside of the car. I suppose I'll have to get yet another set of tires to fix this. It's not like I have massive amounts of hp here. Has anyone else had this problem?

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03-06-2007, 09:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
stevenshizzle Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belleville, IL Age: 23 Posts: 793 Steven iTrader: 0 / 0%	Not yet, but I reckon a torque damper may help out at VTEC engagement. Tell you the truth, I don't really floor my car in first because I know that my tires may break loose. I should try it more often.

03-06-2007, 11:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
xmx250 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Westchester, N.Y. Age: 21 Posts: 6,100 iTrader: 1 / 100%	No i dont have that problem at all. Actaully i couldnt imagine my tires hopping or breaking loose on VTEC engagement. Wow i wonder if my car is making low power?

03-06-2007, 11:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
honda06si Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 11,151 justin iTrader: 6 / 100%	have you broke the tires in? i mean you probably already know to do this but maybe you forgot. all new tires have like oil on them or something and they actually get traction like bald tires until they go through like 3 heat cycles

03-06-2007, 11:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
honda06si Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WV Posts: 11,151 justin iTrader: 6 / 100%	that sucks man! call kuhmo or something tell them your unsatisfied

03-06-2007, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
xmx250 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Westchester, N.Y. Age: 21 Posts: 6,100 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yeah maybe your tires are bad? BTW when are you guys going back to the dyno?

03-06-2007, 11:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
06blaksi Senior Member Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: in teh basement Age: 41 Posts: 49,431 iTrader: 23 / 100%	Jordan is going back in the next week or two...he's getting Hondata...I won't be for a couple months after I get Hondata and possibly an exhaust

03-06-2007, 11:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
drexp2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Torrance CA Posts: 237 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Do you have a '07 model? If so, turn off VSA...

03-06-2007, 12:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
60103 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bartlett, IL Age: 24 Posts: 202 Ken iTrader: 0 / 0%	happens to me once in a while when the roads really cold, like at night, but during the summer i never had a problem.

03-06-2007, 12:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
baz938 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Revere, Ma Age: 20 Posts: 453 iTrader: 0 / 0%	^^^yea same for me too^^^, especailly today when its 5 degrees out but they dont break loose too bad

03-06-2007, 08:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
kurdtkobain87 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 113 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i was having this exact same problem with my toyo proxes 4. but then i found a solution. i never realized how much tire pressure affects performance til now. when i would spin in first my tire pressure was at 35psi. i dropped it down to 32psi and then put the rear tires at 29psi. now i get no wheel hop, but i sure do get sucked backed in my seat now.

03-06-2007, 09:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Qshooter151 Ignorance is Bliss Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 20,391 Jordan iTrader: 35 / 100%	i get it sometimes too. just never really attributed it to anything. i have the summer tires still on the car and it's happened in both warm and cold weather...gonna adjust the pressure tomorrow and see if that helps... ...I'm going back to the dyno on my b-day! Mar 14th 6:00pm