R18 K&N SRI CEL

***ominous8204*** · 02-06-2007, 11:14 PM

Alright, here is the deal. I bought a K&N SRI for my R18, from K&N. I installed it and I'm getting a CEL. An insider at Honda agreed to help me...behind Honda's back...if I get the CEL code. I took the car to 2 places to get the code, Advance Auto Parts and Auto Zone. Neither one of their scanners will read the car. One came up with "Link Error" and the other got "Operator Error". Does anyone have any ideas on what is the problem? I was thinking it could be the MAF sensor. The guy at Advance said to put back my stock intake and take it to Honda to let the get a code, because, according to him, the CEL will stay on...is this true? I've done the 60-90 miles test, and I've done the battery disconnect once (I'm trying again tonight). If anyone has any ideas or suggestions please let me know.

I will keep you guys updated.

gbae007 · 02-06-2007, 11:27 PM

Might try and see if the installation was perfect. Make sure things are fitting tight and the clamps are fully twisted in.

If you find someone with a Scangauge II that will read and reset OBII error codes.

***ominous8204*** · 02-06-2007, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbae007

Might try and see if the installation was perfect. Make sure things are fitting tight and the clamps are fully twisted in.

If you find someone with a Scangauge II that will read and reset OBII error codes.

Do you know of any places that might use or carry a Scangauge II?

**Yodums** · 02-06-2007, 11:55 PM

If an insider at Honda agreed to help you, then he can use the scan tool to pull up the code, no?

My best advice is to take out the SRI, all of it and work back from square one. It's an SRI, so it should take 1 hour tops.

***ominous8204*** · 02-07-2007, 12:08 AM

The girl at Honda can use their tools because it has to be written up for the tools to be used.

And with the SRI reinstall, I'm gonna try that this weekend.

I'm not getting any side effects from the CEL, just the light. The intake sounds and performs amazingly well.

lowerlevel · 02-07-2007, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominous8204

The girl at Honda can use their tools because it has to be written up for the tools to be used.

And with the SRI reinstall, I'm gonna try that this weekend.

I'm not getting any side effects from the CEL, just the light. The intake sounds and performs amazingly well.

i doubt that its in limp mode.. also may affect ur mpg.. im sorry to hear this though, i was about to order the k&n sri. ? did u unplug the battery before the install.

Emong3 · 02-07-2007, 07:29 AM

if the CEL popped out after installing the SRI it must be one of the sensors attached to the intake tube. It may be loose or one of them was not installed in the new tube.

***ominous8204*** · 02-07-2007, 08:46 AM

I installed the sensor on the tube. It is called the MAF sensor.

I did unplug the batter during the install.

Last night I unplugged the battery for 30 minutes. Went and reconnected it. Then started the car. Let it run for a couple minutes, and then turned the car off. As of right now, that is working with no CEL. I will go this morning and see if it turns back on.

gbae007 · 02-07-2007, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominous8204

Do you know of any places that might use or carry a Scangauge II?

scanguage.com or search @ thinkgeek.com

***ominous8204*** · 02-07-2007, 10:27 PM

CEL back on, stayed off until I pressed the gas. I'm strongly leaning toward the MAF tripping because as soon as I touched the gas, the intake sucks in all that air, freaking out the sensor.

***m1k3*** · 02-08-2007, 10:38 PM

what is it with r18's + intakes and CEL's...

**Yodums** · 02-09-2007, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominous8204

CEL back on, stayed off until I pressed the gas. I'm strongly leaning toward the MAF tripping because as soon as I touched the gas, the intake sucks in all that air, freaking out the sensor.

Could be an air leak as well. Pretty easy to pinpoint it with an SRI, but like I said reassemble the unit. :)

***ominous8204*** · 02-09-2007, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1k3

what is it with r18's + intakes and CEL's...

Well, If I knew..this problem would be solved.

***ominous8204*** · 02-09-2007, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodums

Could be an air leak as well. Pretty easy to pinpoint it with an SRI, but like I said reassemble the unit. :)

How can you do a test on the SRI's? I thought about doing the soapy water test...but that wouldn't work because it would suck in the water instead of blowing bubbles.

***ominous8204*** · 02-11-2007, 06:44 PM

Ok, sorry for such the long time for getting a sound clip...but hear is one now. A SUV flipped on the interstate...which is the reason I turn the camera to it...

90and90 · 06-06-2007, 03:54 PM

I brought mine to my mechanic, he said my engine was running really lean, I have an CAI and Exhaust, does anyone think it has to do with the backpressure and the oxy sensor's not having enough pressure to read? I have a MT so if I throw it in neutral and the Air Conditioning is on it almost always die's on top of that, im going post this somewhere else, also since my CEL is on and I cant pass inspection with a check engine light on... my mechanic plugged it onto an obd and he said it was running lean, the other place's that had obd said it didnt give any code's... this is crap, i love my CAI and I dont want to take it out but it looks like i may have to.

DetachmentBravo · 06-07-2007, 11:31 AM

This is incredibly common when someone upgrades to a "high flow" air filter. I worked at a service station for a while and the head mechanic there, a fellow named Jim, absolutely hated K&N filters and the like. To this day we can't exactly explain why it occurs, but do know that we serviced at least one car a week that had a CEL that was solved by going back to an OEM filter.

***ominous8204*** · 06-07-2007, 08:39 PM

Looking back at a previous post, this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1k3

what is it with r18's + intakes and CEL's...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominous8204

Well, If I knew..this problem would be solved.

came off very crude, I appologize m1k3.

02-06-2007, 11:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
*ominous8204* Non-FG*Squad_Member 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Age: 20 Posts: 1,258 Chris - Mmmm, VTEC!!! iTrader: 5 / 100%	R18 K&N SRI CEL Alright, here is the deal. I bought a K&N SRI for my R18, from K&N. I installed it and I'm getting a CEL. An insider at Honda agreed to help me...behind Honda's back...if I get the CEL code. I took the car to 2 places to get the code, Advance Auto Parts and Auto Zone. Neither one of their scanners will read the car. One came up with "Link Error" and the other got "Operator Error". Does anyone have any ideas on what is the problem? I was thinking it could be the MAF sensor. The guy at Advance said to put back my stock intake and take it to Honda to let the get a code, because, according to him, the CEL will stay on...is this true? I've done the 60-90 miles test, and I've done the battery disconnect once (I'm trying again tonight). If anyone has any ideas or suggestions please let me know. I will keep you guys updated.

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02-06-2007, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
gbae007 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 27 Posts: 878 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Might try and see if the installation was perfect. Make sure things are fitting tight and the clamps are fully twisted in. If you find someone with a Scangauge II that will read and reset OBII error codes.

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Yodums Scrodums Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 8,480 HIRO - ಠ_ಠ iTrader: 10 / 100%	If an insider at Honda agreed to help you, then he can use the scan tool to pull up the code, no? My best advice is to take out the SRI, all of it and work back from square one. It's an SRI, so it should take 1 hour tops.

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*ominous8204* Non-FG*Squad_Member 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Age: 20 Posts: 1,258 Chris - Mmmm, VTEC!!! iTrader: 5 / 100%	The girl at Honda can use their tools because it has to be written up for the tools to be used. And with the SRI reinstall, I'm gonna try that this weekend. I'm not getting any side effects from the CEL, just the light. The intake sounds and performs amazingly well.

02-07-2007, 07:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Emong3 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manila, Philipines Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 / 0%	if the CEL popped out after installing the SRI it must be one of the sensors attached to the intake tube. It may be loose or one of them was not installed in the new tube.

02-07-2007, 08:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
*ominous8204* Non-FG*Squad_Member 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Age: 20 Posts: 1,258 Chris - Mmmm, VTEC!!! iTrader: 5 / 100%	I installed the sensor on the tube. It is called the MAF sensor. I did unplug the batter during the install. Last night I unplugged the battery for 30 minutes. Went and reconnected it. Then started the car. Let it run for a couple minutes, and then turned the car off. As of right now, that is working with no CEL. I will go this morning and see if it turns back on.

02-07-2007, 10:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
*ominous8204* Non-FG*Squad_Member 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Age: 20 Posts: 1,258 Chris - Mmmm, VTEC!!! iTrader: 5 / 100%	CEL back on, stayed off until I pressed the gas. I'm strongly leaning toward the MAF tripping because as soon as I touched the gas, the intake sucks in all that air, freaking out the sensor.

02-11-2007, 06:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
*ominous8204* Non-FG*Squad_Member 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Age: 20 Posts: 1,258 Chris - Mmmm, VTEC!!! iTrader: 5 / 100%	Ok, sorry for such the long time for getting a sound clip...but hear is one now. A SUV flipped on the interstate...which is the reason I turn the camera to it...

06-06-2007, 03:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
90and90 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Conshohocken, PA Age: 22 Posts: 562 Todd iTrader: 2 / 100%	I brought mine to my mechanic, he said my engine was running really lean, I have an CAI and Exhaust, does anyone think it has to do with the backpressure and the oxy sensor's not having enough pressure to read? I have a MT so if I throw it in neutral and the Air Conditioning is on it almost always die's on top of that, im going post this somewhere else, also since my CEL is on and I cant pass inspection with a check engine light on... my mechanic plugged it onto an obd and he said it was running lean, the other place's that had obd said it didnt give any code's... this is crap, i love my CAI and I dont want to take it out but it looks like i may have to.

06-07-2007, 11:31 AM	#17 (permalink)
DetachmentBravo Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 275 William iTrader: 0 / 0%	This is incredibly common when someone upgrades to a "high flow" air filter. I worked at a service station for a while and the head mechanic there, a fellow named Jim, absolutely hated K&N filters and the like. To this day we can't exactly explain why it occurs, but do know that we serviced at least one car a week that had a CEL that was solved by going back to an OEM filter.