Rev-hang and what the dealership said...

Sherpa · 12-19-2006, 12:15 PM

Took my car in to get a synchro checked out yesterday and I also mentioned the rev-hang issue and asked them to inquire about it. While the tech was driving my car to check out the transmission, he was telling me that the rev hang issue was an internet hoax and that they have never heard anything from Honda that would support the claims to an available reflash.

Is there anything you all could tell me real quick before I call back the dealership today?

Thanks!

shawn-o · 12-19-2006, 12:20 PM

Its not a technical reflash. its an update for your ECU.

With that being said, all it does is bring the 06 SI's ecu up to the 07SI's specifications, which takes away some of the rev-hang issues. This is why it was not a recall, but simply they would update your ecu if you had the issue and were within the affected vin range.

Sherpa · 12-19-2006, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawn-o

Its not a technical reflash. its an update for your ECU.

With that being said, all it does is bring the 06 SI's ecu up to the 07SI's specifications, which takes away some of the rev-hang issues. This is why it was not a recall, but simply they would update your ecu if you had the issue and were within the affected vin range.

Ahh, I see. I just got a call from them and I have the most recent update for the ECU already. DBW sucks.

shawn-o · 12-19-2006, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherpa

DBW sucks.

Yes, yes it does.

dannn · 12-19-2006, 01:14 PM

its not DBW thats causing the problem its the programming in the ecu.
honda should really look into taking care of it.

ive driven many dbw cars and none of them had any problems. 99% of people wouldnt even know they had dbw unless they were told.

please stop blaming dbw, its just another improvement in technology and honda knows they have to keep up or they will be left behind.

shawn-o · 12-19-2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannn

its not DBW thats causing the problem its the programming in the ecu.
honda should really look into taking care of it.

ive driven many dbw cars and none of them had any problems. 99% of people wouldnt even know they had dbw unless they were told.

please stop blaming dbw, its just another improvement in technology and honda knows they have to keep up or they will be left behind.

Im not in the mood for a dbw debate but among the cars i was test driving, i looked at a nissan sentra spec-v. also was dbw and had a weird rev-hang issue.

it is in the ecu- IIRC, the programming makes the car a cleaner more environmentally friendly car by burning excess gasses through shifts.

Sherpa · 12-19-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannn

its not DBW thats causing the problem its the programming in the ecu.
honda should really look into taking care of it.

ive driven many dbw cars and none of them had any problems. 99% of people wouldnt even know they had dbw unless they were told.

please stop blaming dbw, its just another improvement in technology and honda knows they have to keep up or they will be left behind.

Considering I have 4 DBW cars, I feel that I can slam it all I want.

Ever try building a race car that started as DBW?

And yes, the programming is what's causing the TB to stay open too long and not begin to close the instant you take your foot off the gas. That's called DBW and poor programming from Honda.

dannn · 12-19-2006, 01:32 PM

yea its the programming thats causing it not the nature of the dbw system.

my friends mx-5 has dbw and it doesnt have this problem.
ive driven the m3, m5, and m6 and they all dont have the hang.
im just saying dbw by itself isnt the problem its how the ecu is using it.

***Janizary*** · 12-19-2006, 02:03 PM

Take a copy of this in and ask him if it is still an 'internet hoax':

Damn service techs like that give all dealerships a bad name.

KingMarineM16a4 · 12-19-2006, 02:34 PM

I learned something new today...

tmac1221 · 12-19-2006, 09:59 PM

And make sure you go to the same guy, like he said, and ask him to take of the "internet hoax".

I would totally do that. I hate when people don't know what they are talking about and try and make you look stupid. Some people are so friggin ignorant. They tried to tell me the same thing and I just handed them the paper and they looked at it like it was written in chinese. Then they did my update and I could tell a difference, not totally eliminated, but definitely better.

Brandon Park · 12-20-2006, 02:34 PM

Hello everybody yea i have to agree with dannn on the DBW issue at least for the 07' SI's even at 3thousand i get enough response, but that is probably because i was driving a 06' coupe ex auto and i really didnt like the response from that transmission it was like spooling for something then realizing its not a turbo hehe

Just my humble thoughts.

t1ny · 12-26-2006, 04:56 AM

anyone know how long it takes to get it reflashed? at the dealership?

Type X · 12-26-2006, 09:39 AM

Call Honda corporate office, report the tech that you spoke to
and tell him that his next paycheck should be a hoax.
& that you received better information from the internet.

Si 4 Life · 12-26-2006, 10:12 AM

If the last six of your VIN are under 7606 you more than likely may have an issue with your ECU.

redrocket · 12-26-2006, 02:00 PM

I just changed the way I drive the Si. I now release the gas a full second before I clutch and by the time I shift gears, the rev hang dies down accordingly... Anyone else changed their driving habits?

Si 4 Life · 12-26-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrocket

I just changed the way I drive the Si. I now release the gas a full second before I clutch and by the time I shift gears, the rev hang dies down accordingly... Anyone else changed their driving habits?

No. No need to. Just get the rev hang corrected.

12-19-2006, 12:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sherpa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 279 Matt iTrader: 0 / 0%	Rev-hang and what the dealership said... Took my car in to get a synchro checked out yesterday and I also mentioned the rev-hang issue and asked them to inquire about it. While the tech was driving my car to check out the transmission, he was telling me that the rev hang issue was an internet hoax and that they have never heard anything from Honda that would support the claims to an available reflash. Is there anything you all could tell me real quick before I call back the dealership today? Thanks!

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12-19-2006, 12:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
shawn-o Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 21 Posts: 1,392 iTrader: 3 / 100%	Its not a technical reflash. its an update for your ECU. With that being said, all it does is bring the 06 SI's ecu up to the 07SI's specifications, which takes away some of the rev-hang issues. This is why it was not a recall, but simply they would update your ecu if you had the issue and were within the affected vin range.

12-19-2006, 01:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
dannn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 516 iTrader: 0 / 0%	its not DBW thats causing the problem its the programming in the ecu. honda should really look into taking care of it. ive driven many dbw cars and none of them had any problems. 99% of people wouldnt even know they had dbw unless they were told. please stop blaming dbw, its just another improvement in technology and honda knows they have to keep up or they will be left behind.

12-19-2006, 01:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
dannn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 516 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yea its the programming thats causing it not the nature of the dbw system. my friends mx-5 has dbw and it doesnt have this problem. ive driven the m3, m5, and m6 and they all dont have the hang. im just saying dbw by itself isnt the problem its how the ecu is using it.

12-19-2006, 02:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
KingMarineM16a4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arlington, Texas Age: 19 Posts: 5,680 David iTrader: 0 / 0%	I learned something new today...

12-19-2006, 09:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
tmac1221 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Henderson/ Las Vegas, NV Posts: 212 Tim iTrader: 0 / 0%	And make sure you go to the same guy, like he said, and ask him to take of the "internet hoax". I would totally do that. I hate when people don't know what they are talking about and try and make you look stupid. Some people are so friggin ignorant. They tried to tell me the same thing and I just handed them the paper and they looked at it like it was written in chinese. Then they did my update and I could tell a difference, not totally eliminated, but definitely better.

12-20-2006, 02:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Brandon Park Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 41 Brian iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hello everybody yea i have to agree with dannn on the DBW issue at least for the 07' SI's even at 3thousand i get enough response, but that is probably because i was driving a 06' coupe ex auto and i really didnt like the response from that transmission it was like spooling for something then realizing its not a turbo hehe Just my humble thoughts.

12-26-2006, 04:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
t1ny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Killa Kali so cal Age: 20 Posts: 218 iTrader: 2 / 100%	anyone know how long it takes to get it reflashed? at the dealership?

12-26-2006, 09:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
Type X Senior Member Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 3,117 iTrader: 16 / 100%	Call Honda corporate office, report the tech that you spoke to and tell him that his next paycheck should be a hoax. & that you received better information from the internet.

12-26-2006, 10:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
Si 4 Life Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arlington TX Age: 28 Posts: 259 James iTrader: 0 / 0%	If the last six of your VIN are under 7606 you more than likely may have an issue with your ECU.

12-26-2006, 02:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
redrocket Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I just changed the way I drive the Si. I now release the gas a full second before I clutch and by the time I shift gears, the rev hang dies down accordingly... Anyone else changed their driving habits?