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civic93 · 04-30-2008, 02:29 AM

yeah min dose this in morning too. glad to hear that it isn't anythig major

ro.sniper · 05-01-2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic93

yeah min dose this in morning too. glad to hear that it isn't anythig major

I don't think its a biggie either unless it does it on every start

kalel_unico · 05-12-2008, 04:36 PM

i had the same problem 3X starting last friday. the 1st time it happened i was scared, it's not normal for me coz it had only 2K on my odo and its new right...

some people/dealer says it's normal? i think it's NOT normal coz in the long run, your battery will have a problem or the life of the battery will be shorter.

hope there is a good answer from honda, or a good solution to this.

for now, i'll try the key in ON position for a few seconds...

Genguy · 05-23-2008, 05:31 AM

I was reading through some Honda service news articles and ran across this info describing no start symptoms....

"Just replaced the engine block, or did major engine surgery, and now the engine cranks but it won’t start or
you’ve got a DTC P2610 (ECM/PCM ignition off internal timer malfunction)?
Check ground G101. Corrosion or a loose or cross-threaded mounting bolt. could be the culprit. In DX, LX,
and EX models, G101 is mounted to the water outlet cover. In Si models, it’s mounted to the intake manifold."

Pictures and additional info are in the article here:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/A080200.PDF

It could be worth checking for bad/corroded connection at that ground point.

Seth7517 · 07-17-2008, 09:09 AM

sometime my starter doent contact the flywheel it just spins, then i try it again then its ok. it has only done it 2-3 times and ive had it a year and a half.

Si_Jeff · 08-13-2008, 04:33 AM

^^ I think i might have the same issue as you, it only happened to me like 2-3 times also. does anybody know what problem this might be?

gtdrifter · 08-16-2008, 05:15 AM

same issue here...as well as hard-to-shut door problem mentioned in this thread
funny because the problem started after 5000 miles hmm...

Steelejaxon · 08-19-2008, 03:24 PM

2006 Civic Si. Had for 2 1/2 years and 38k miles and never had a problem. We had a terrible storm and the next morning I went to start it and it felt like the battery was going. Just cranked a few times before catching. Since then, everytime has sounded the same way and a few times I couldn't get it to start the first time and have to try again. Also had the engine die right after starting. Im a little leary to take to the dealership since my warranty is expired so any help will be appreciated. I will try the tip to turn the key and let the fuel and oil pumps go for a couple secs for the next couple days and report back.

JJJ5278 · 10-15-2008, 10:40 PM

I know this is an old thread but my car has this problem at least 2-3 times a month. At first I thought it was b/c its only a 4 cylinder engine and the winters in Wisconsin are somewhat unforgiving. However it has happened on a nice sunny summer day, a rainy day, etc etc etc....I guess I am just SOL?? I also had the broken sunvisor problem, sheesh.

708CvCSi · 10-15-2008, 11:19 PM

I haven't read the whole thread, but, has anyone ever mentioned that the ignition switch could be the culprit? Hondas wouldn't be the only nor first cars to have these exact same symptoms and all because the switch was faulty.

Buckeye · 11-26-2008, 04:28 PM

I have 450 miles on my 09 LX - There have been 3 instances when the car took a full 3 seconds to start. All the other times she started right up.

I had the dealership take a look and they couldn't find anything. They looked at the alarm system, ignition system, and engine itself. The service worker told me to keep documenting new instances, and let them know when they happen. He said this is the best way to cover myself if anything does come to light in the future.

***fiji06si13*** · 11-27-2008, 02:43 AM

What you all have to understand is that the ignition doesn't start firing the coils till it sees its in cyc #1 so it you shut it off and it stops on cyc #4 then it has to turn a whole crank to see 1 again and then it fires...it all on the matter of when the engine stops moving and what cyc it lands on....

DavisLasVegas · 11-27-2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiji06si13

What you all have to understand is that the ignition doesn't start firing the coils till it sees its in cyc #1 so it you shut it off and it stops on cyc #4 then it has to turn a whole crank to see 1 again and then it fires...it all on the matter of when the engine stops moving and what cyc it lands on....

agreed.

10-15-2008, 10:40 PM	#69 (permalink)
JJJ5278 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kenosha, WI Posts: 93 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I know this is an old thread but my car has this problem at least 2-3 times a month. At first I thought it was b/c its only a 4 cylinder engine and the winters in Wisconsin are somewhat unforgiving. However it has happened on a nice sunny summer day, a rainy day, etc etc etc....I guess I am just SOL?? I also had the broken sunvisor problem, sheesh. Last edited by JJJ5278; 10-15-2008 at 11:30 PM.

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Steelejaxon Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0%	2006 Civic Si. Had for 2 1/2 years and 38k miles and never had a problem. We had a terrible storm and the next morning I went to start it and it felt like the battery was going. Just cranked a few times before catching. Since then, everytime has sounded the same way and a few times I couldn't get it to start the first time and have to try again. Also had the engine die right after starting. Im a little leary to take to the dealership since my warranty is expired so any help will be appreciated. I will try the tip to turn the key and let the fuel and oil pumps go for a couple secs for the next couple days and report back.

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708CvCSi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 257 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I haven't read the whole thread, but, has anyone ever mentioned that the ignition switch could be the culprit? Hondas wouldn't be the only nor first cars to have these exact same symptoms and all because the switch was faulty.

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