Power steering issue--Advice please

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-30-2010, 12:39 PM

Basically I had power steering while the key is in the ON position, but when I accually started the car it would fail and the steering wheel with the "!" came up on my dash. (can anyone say OH S#%T) I turned the car off and reset the EcU (unplugged the battery for 15 min.) and while i was putting my radio code it it happened again, so i repeated and I havent had any more trouble in the last 48 hours

Is this an early sign of some BIGGER issue?

edit: It happened twice again today and this time the problem is taking 2-3 starts before power steering is kosher

thanks,
Nick

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-30-2010, 12:40 PM

Also, my car is only 23,xxx miles in...

bluetroll · 07-30-2010, 01:02 PM

that happened to my 07 si...

i turned off the car and power steering came back on.

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-30-2010, 03:54 PM

Its happening again today now, and more often. go to the stealership?? I'd have to go back to stock?

oj88 · 07-30-2010, 04:09 PM

You gotta love old school hydraulic steering. It's not that they don't fail. But when they do, it's usually not as abrupt as an EPS system just "turning off" in the middle of a turn.

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-30-2010, 06:34 PM

BUmp for power stick =D but the power steering thing is still on my mind... anyone?

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-30-2010, 08:46 PM

65 veiws and not 1 helpful answer wheres my

addicts at?

oj88 · 07-30-2010, 10:03 PM

Checking the EPS system is a lot more complicated than inspecting the spark plugs, so I suggest you take it to the dealer the next time the EPS warning light comes on. Yes, drive it to the dealer with no steering assist... Needless to say, be careful doing so.

Better yet, when the EPS fails again, have a tow truck tow you to the dealer with the engine running (so the EPS warning stays on). I believe the Honda people needs the warning light turned on to get the DTC.

Your basis to decide on whether to go back to stock depends on the dealer. Some dealers are cool about most mods... others are PITA. I presume it is still under warranty? If it's worth fixing the EPS without any hitches, by all means, switch back to stock tires/suspension if you still have them.

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-30-2010, 10:16 PM

^ thanks... to the dealership it is =/

Budzinski · 07-30-2010, 10:29 PM

I thought that the si had electronic steering? I don't have a powersteering reservoir for fluid.. I thought everything is run electronically...Drive by wire..

oj88 · 07-30-2010, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budzinski

I thought that the si had electronic steering? I don't have a powersteering reservoir for fluid.. I thought everything is run electronically...Drive by wire..

Read back. EPS = Electric Power Steering

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-31-2010, 12:45 AM

It still needs fluid if im not mistaking (if im wrong im the guy who couldnt change his own oil 2 months ago so chill....)

Update though. its now doing it randomly even while driving which was quiet dangerous earlier.... almoast hit a parked car in the hood (ya i live in the ghetto).........I was making a sharp left and all of a sudden DENIED and wow. im a strong fella but god damn. So looks like the dealership ASAP it is... Might as well get my 3rd gear "grind" fixed and the "knocking" sound at low speed turns. (got the TSB's off here THANKS GUYS!)

oj88 · 07-31-2010, 02:05 AM

^ Lol... no, there's no power steering fluid on an EPS system.

"Ill Never drive a Honda" · 07-31-2010, 03:42 AM

^ so whats the reservoir in the top right corner? im too tired to go look.

vlad · 08-02-2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oj88

^ Lol... no, there's no power steering fluid on an EPS system.

x2. no fluid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Ill Never drive a Honda"

^ so whats the reservoir in the top right corner? im too tired to go look.

top right corner as seen from inside the car has the windshield fluid resevoir.

07-30-2010, 12:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	Power steering issue--Advice please Basically I had power steering while the key is in the ON position, but when I accually started the car it would fail and the steering wheel with the "!" came up on my dash. (can anyone say OH S#%T) I turned the car off and reset the EcU (unplugged the battery for 15 min.) and while i was putting my radio code it it happened again, so i repeated and I havent had any more trouble in the last 48 hours Is this an early sign of some BIGGER issue? edit: It happened twice again today and this time the problem is taking 2-3 starts before power steering is kosher thanks, Nick Last edited by "Ill Never drive a Honda"; 07-30-2010 at 08:40 PM. Reason: more problems...

07-31-2010, 12:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	It still needs fluid if im not mistaking (if im wrong im the guy who couldnt change his own oil 2 months ago so chill....) Update though. its now doing it randomly even while driving which was quiet dangerous earlier.... almoast hit a parked car in the hood (ya i live in the ghetto).........I was making a sharp left and all of a sudden DENIED and wow. im a strong fella but god damn. So looks like the dealership ASAP it is... Might as well get my 3rd gear "grind" fixed and the "knocking" sound at low speed turns. (got the TSB's off here THANKS GUYS!) Last edited by "Ill Never drive a Honda"; 07-31-2010 at 12:47 AM.

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07-30-2010, 12:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	Also, my car is only 23,xxx miles in...

07-30-2010, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
bluetroll Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Markham, Ontario Posts: 1,579 NBP Si iTrader: 6 / 100%	that happened to my 07 si... i turned off the car and power steering came back on.

07-30-2010, 03:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	Its happening again today now, and more often. go to the stealership?? I'd have to go back to stock?

07-30-2010, 04:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
oj88 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mordor Posts: 389 iTrader: 0 / 0%	You gotta love old school hydraulic steering. It's not that they don't fail. But when they do, it's usually not as abrupt as an EPS system just "turning off" in the middle of a turn.

07-30-2010, 06:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	BUmp for power stick =D but the power steering thing is still on my mind... anyone?

07-30-2010, 08:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	65 veiws and not 1 helpful answer wheres my addicts at?

07-30-2010, 10:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
oj88 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mordor Posts: 389 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Checking the EPS system is a lot more complicated than inspecting the spark plugs, so I suggest you take it to the dealer the next time the EPS warning light comes on. Yes, drive it to the dealer with no steering assist... Needless to say, be careful doing so. Better yet, when the EPS fails again, have a tow truck tow you to the dealer with the engine running (so the EPS warning stays on). I believe the Honda people needs the warning light turned on to get the DTC. Your basis to decide on whether to go back to stock depends on the dealer. Some dealers are cool about most mods... others are PITA. I presume it is still under warranty? If it's worth fixing the EPS without any hitches, by all means, switch back to stock tires/suspension if you still have them.

07-30-2010, 10:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	^ thanks... to the dealership it is =/

07-30-2010, 10:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
Budzinski Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 237 John budzinski iTrader: 0 / 0%	I thought that the si had electronic steering? I don't have a powersteering reservoir for fluid.. I thought everything is run electronically...Drive by wire..

07-31-2010, 02:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
oj88 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mordor Posts: 389 iTrader: 0 / 0%	^ Lol... no, there's no power steering fluid on an EPS system.

07-31-2010, 03:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
"Ill Never drive a Honda" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NEVER say Never.... Posts: 386 Nick iTrader: 4 / 100%	^ so whats the reservoir in the top right corner? im too tired to go look.