New throttle problem? - Page 2

si_civic · 11-19-2006, 08:45 PM

UPDATE: Haven't gone to Honda yet, sorry

ldawson77777 · 11-21-2006, 01:02 AM

NP, I haven't had time either...Life has been crazy lately

ldawson77777 · 11-30-2006, 03:58 AM

You had any time to take your car to the dealer Darryl?

Torredo · 11-30-2006, 04:18 AM

I wonder if its just HOnda cars that have these gayass issues?
i dont mean to sound like i dink, but it seems our hondas are
plagued by DBW, Rev Hang, and issues such as Si_civic is having?

Honda needs to get their shit in gear imho!

bizzybearfigiblue · 11-30-2006, 04:19 AM

mine does the same thing. it kinda sucks it happens when i'm at a light and then i give it a little gas and come off of the clutch, just to get rolling, then press the clutch again and try to rev and it doesn't rev up it just cruises in neutral. i know it's the DBW b/c in any other car w/o DBW u can do the same thing and the engine will rev when u press the gas.

si_civic · 11-30-2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldawson77777

You had any time to take your car to the dealer Darryl?

See, now that is seriously -32 with the windchill, I just go to work, go home, and stay inside. The roads are major slippery so I don't notice the issues anymore lol. It will go in, trust me on this. I have four issues in total:

1) rev hang
2) throttle delay @ idle
3) spring-sound rattle behind CD player
4) engine won't rev past 10,000rpm

jk #4

Darryl

Torredo · 11-30-2006, 05:22 PM

#4 youll need a mugen/spoon engine aight' j/k

si_civic · 12-01-2006, 02:46 AM

Hondata reflash (in Spring 07) will allow my engine to hit 8600rpm.... < THIS MOFO IS MIGHTY STOKED ON THAT!

Torredo · 12-01-2006, 03:19 AM

not to change the topic here but i just found out earlier today that there is an update for my DBW /REV hang out. This WED i get a new 07' reflash for free!!

SaWeeeeT

ldawson77777 · 12-01-2006, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by si_civic

See, now that is seriously -32 with the windchill, I just go to work, go home, and stay inside. The roads are major slippery so I don't notice the issues anymore lol. It will go in, trust me on this. I have four issues in total:

1) rev hang
2) throttle delay @ idle
3) spring-sound rattle behind CD player
4) engine won't rev past 10,000rpm

jk #4

Darryl

Yea, I think I would have the same routine if it was -32 outside. Don't blame you one bit there...If you DID have a problem with #4, you wouldn't see problems #1 and #2 because you engine would fly through your hood...

ldawson77777 · 12-01-2006, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torredo

not to change the topic here but i just found out earlier today that there is an update for my DBW /REV hang out. This WED i get a new 07' reflash for free!!

SaWeeeeT

Really...How about a little more information on that? I went to a dealership a couple weeks ago (first week I got my car actually) and the techs there said they had never heard of the problem...

Torredo · 12-01-2006, 03:34 AM

well....first off i forgot to mention mine is an R18 model...ooops!!
secondly i dont want to horde si_civics thread but finally honda
in canada pulls through for me after a LONG wait and believe me
it was painful as im sick of this lag crap!

Avenger · 12-01-2006, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torredo

well....first off i forgot to mention mine is an R18 model...ooops!!
secondly i dont want to horde si_civics thread but finally honda
in canada pulls through for me after a LONG wait and believe me
it was painful as im sick of this lag crap!

Wait........so there is an update for R18's now? I'm dropping by Honda today in that case!

Omes · 12-01-2006, 05:50 AM

Umm, I don't think you all should be confusing the "rev-hang" issue with this problem here. This seems to be a whole different problem altogether. I have the rev-hang problem past 3500RPM and also have slightly delayed throttle response (most likely due to the DBW engineering) but have yet to encounter the problem you all are having where the car does not rev at all when in neutral.

Can someone elaborate a bit more on the cause of the problem? What exactly do you do to cause the symptoms to occur. When I first got the car, I would double-clutch on downshifts just to learn how to do so and have now resorted to just normal downshifts. I never experienced the problem that you are having. However, I have noticed sometimes that while coasting in neutral and let the RPMs drop to the normal idle (preparation for a 3rd gear turn), when I shift into third gear, give it gas and let the clutch out, there are times when I seem to completely miss rev-matching and make the car jerk. Now, I attributed this to driver error since I'm still fairly new to driving stick; however, I have done these types of maneuvers before and have done some nearly flawlessly. Perhaps it could be that the engine is not revving at all when I give it gas? I'll still stick to driver error being the cause but I'll go check it out later and see if my revs truly aren't going up.

si_civic · 12-01-2006, 10:57 AM

^ ok. Sweet example: First gear, in the snow going about 5 km/h. I blip the throttle like 10 times. Nothing. In other cars you would hear the intake "whooshing", but in my Si, nothing, no revs. This is dangerous IMO.

My car has no problem rev-matching when downshifting, this seems to only occur at idle and/or slow speeds; speeds when making turns I have no throttle input.

ldawson77777 · 12-01-2006, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by si_civic

^ ok. Sweet example: First gear, in the snow going about 5 km/h. I blip the throttle like 10 times. Nothing. In other cars you would hear the intake "whooshing", but in my Si, nothing, no revs. This is dangerous IMO.

My car has no problem rev-matching when downshifting, this seems to only occur at idle and/or slow speeds; speeds when making turns I have no throttle input.

I was unsure of when it was happening at first, but now I find it quite easy to replicate (not cool). When I pull into a parking lot and slow down for a speed bump, I'll be going 3-10 MPH. Now right before and/or after the speed bump when the clutch is still in, I can "blip" the throttle to try and rev match, but nothing happens; no throttle response at all. I've gone so far as to push the throttle to the floor really quick and I still get nothing. It's crazy...

In fact, I'm gonna go to the dealer right now and see what they say...argggg...

si_civic · 12-01-2006, 08:38 PM

^ YES ! FINALLY
Finally someone who knows wtf I'm talking about (and has the same problem!). PLEEEZ let me know if a reflash would solve this!

ldawson77777 · 12-01-2006, 09:06 PM

ARGGGGGG...Dealership #2 has never heard of said problem!!! This is starting to piss me off. They blew me off there like I didn't know what I was talking about. I'll try another one tomorrow, but I'm starting to get a little short on patience...

Torredo · 12-02-2006, 12:28 AM

welcome to Honda....

si_civic · 12-02-2006, 01:31 AM

I know there is definitely a reflash available for our cars.

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11-19-2006, 08:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,608 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	UPDATE: Haven't gone to Honda yet, sorry

11-21-2006, 01:02 AM	#22 (permalink)
ldawson77777 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 / 0%	NP, I haven't had time either...Life has been crazy lately

11-30-2006, 03:58 AM	#23 (permalink)
ldawson77777 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 / 0%	You had any time to take your car to the dealer Darryl?

11-30-2006, 04:18 AM	#24 (permalink)
Torredo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,157 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I wonder if its just HOnda cars that have these gayass issues? i dont mean to sound like i dink, but it seems our hondas are plagued by DBW, Rev Hang, and issues such as Si_civic is having? Honda needs to get their shit in gear imho!

11-30-2006, 04:19 AM	#25 (permalink)
bizzybearfigiblue Senior Member Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18,279 iTrader: 4 / 100%	mine does the same thing. it kinda sucks it happens when i'm at a light and then i give it a little gas and come off of the clutch, just to get rolling, then press the clutch again and try to rev and it doesn't rev up it just cruises in neutral. i know it's the DBW b/c in any other car w/o DBW u can do the same thing and the engine will rev when u press the gas.

11-30-2006, 05:22 PM	#27 (permalink)
Torredo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,157 iTrader: 0 / 0%	#4 youll need a mugen/spoon engine aight' j/k

12-01-2006, 02:46 AM	#28 (permalink)
si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,608 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	Hondata reflash (in Spring 07) will allow my engine to hit 8600rpm.... < THIS MOFO IS MIGHTY STOKED ON THAT!

12-01-2006, 03:19 AM	#29 (permalink)
Torredo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,157 iTrader: 0 / 0%	not to change the topic here but i just found out earlier today that there is an update for my DBW /REV hang out. This WED i get a new 07' reflash for free!! SaWeeeeT

12-01-2006, 03:34 AM	#32 (permalink)
Torredo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,157 iTrader: 0 / 0%	well....first off i forgot to mention mine is an R18 model...ooops!! secondly i dont want to horde si_civics thread but finally honda in canada pulls through for me after a LONG wait and believe me it was painful as im sick of this lag crap!

12-01-2006, 05:50 AM	#34 (permalink)
Omes Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 436 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Umm, I don't think you all should be confusing the "rev-hang" issue with this problem here. This seems to be a whole different problem altogether. I have the rev-hang problem past 3500RPM and also have slightly delayed throttle response (most likely due to the DBW engineering) but have yet to encounter the problem you all are having where the car does not rev at all when in neutral. Can someone elaborate a bit more on the cause of the problem? What exactly do you do to cause the symptoms to occur. When I first got the car, I would double-clutch on downshifts just to learn how to do so and have now resorted to just normal downshifts. I never experienced the problem that you are having. However, I have noticed sometimes that while coasting in neutral and let the RPMs drop to the normal idle (preparation for a 3rd gear turn), when I shift into third gear, give it gas and let the clutch out, there are times when I seem to completely miss rev-matching and make the car jerk. Now, I attributed this to driver error since I'm still fairly new to driving stick; however, I have done these types of maneuvers before and have done some nearly flawlessly. Perhaps it could be that the engine is not revving at all when I give it gas? I'll still stick to driver error being the cause but I'll go check it out later and see if my revs truly aren't going up.

12-01-2006, 10:57 AM	#35 (permalink)
si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,608 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	^ ok. Sweet example: First gear, in the snow going about 5 km/h. I blip the throttle like 10 times. Nothing. In other cars you would hear the intake "whooshing", but in my Si, nothing, no revs. This is dangerous IMO. My car has no problem rev-matching when downshifting, this seems to only occur at idle and/or slow speeds; speeds when making turns I have no throttle input.

12-01-2006, 08:38 PM	#37 (permalink)
si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,608 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	^ YES ! FINALLY Finally someone who knows wtf I'm talking about (and has the same problem!). PLEEEZ let me know if a reflash would solve this!

12-01-2006, 09:06 PM	#38 (permalink)
ldawson77777 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 / 0%	ARGGGGGG...Dealership #2 has never heard of said problem!!! This is starting to piss me off. They blew me off there like I didn't know what I was talking about. I'll try another one tomorrow, but I'm starting to get a little short on patience...

12-02-2006, 12:28 AM	#39 (permalink)
Torredo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,157 iTrader: 0 / 0%	welcome to Honda....

12-02-2006, 01:31 AM	#40 (permalink)
si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,608 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	I know there is definitely a reflash available for our cars.