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Old 02-11-2010, 07:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool Steering wheel feels very twitchy

I just took delivery of a New 2010 Civic sedan for my wife and straight away I noticed that the steering wheel feels very twitchy/sensitive/jumpy. It just doesn't feel firm like my other cars.

I had an good alignment done and the car now runs in straight line better, but the steering still feels twitchy/sensitive/jumpy.

Is this normal for the 2006/10 Civic or is there a fix at Honda?

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Old 02-11-2010, 07:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Twitchy?

Check your tire pressure.
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Check your tire pressure.
Did that with the wheel alignment.
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Maybe you're just not used to the Civic?
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It's a strange feeling, for example, I am driving in a perfectly straight line and the steering wheel is 100% straight, then the car runs over an ever so slight imperfection on the road and the steering wheel jumps slightly to the left or right very quickly and I must correct it. Just a bit too sensitive.

Is this a typical Civic FD?

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Old 02-11-2010, 09:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Maybe the technical word for this problem is BUMP STEER. Is there a simple correction?
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Typical Si with decent tires, can't say for the FD, but probably. I would use the word accurate, over twitchy.
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What trim level?
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It's a strange feeling, for example, I am driving in a perfectly straight line and the steering wheel is 100% straight, then the car runs over an ever so slight imperfection on the road and the steering wheel jumps slightly to the left or right very quickly and I must correct it. Just a bit too sensitive.

Is this a typical Civic FD?
mine does the same thing on the freeway...i think the steering is too sensitive
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You've never driven a Miata, have you? Haha. Sounds like you'd steer yourself off the highway first thing if you did.
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Today, I took the car to Honda and explained the problem and he smiled.

Anyway, the technician and I drove to the rear of the Honda garage where they had a special area of road with raised cobbles. Driving over them the steering wheel was twiching like crazy. He then tested the car on various roads for about 5km and said nothing.

Technicians conclusion, normal, but to me it just seems like the steering rack needs tightning a bit. Is it possible?

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Old 02-12-2010, 07:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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if they say its normal, id take their word for it
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Guess so!!!!!
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well, the Si's have EPS which feels very different then hydrolic racks. When I first drove my FA5, that was the first thing I noticed, very light steering and bump steer. But i think you have a non-Si sedan which all have standard hydrolic racks.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:01 AM   #15 (permalink)
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if they say its normal, id take their word for it
OK, I took it to another dealer today and they did an adjustment in the steering rack. It feels much better now.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This problem is called bump steer and I have been told it's a typical Civic problem.

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Here's the fix. It may take 2 or 3 adjustments to get it right.

http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...SH200/11-4.pdf
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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This problem is called bump steer and I have been told it's a typical Civic problem.
Bump steer is a geometry based characteristic, what your dealer adjusted was steering friction... completely different.

If it feels better to you, then perhaps friction was too low... but the steering rack supplier checks friction 100%... so its very unlikely. What you were probably noticing was the 7deg caster the 8th gen Civic has. It makes the car have a very strong on centre feel with steep gain on either side. Its a characteristic of the design and its normal.

If you compare a 2006 Civic with an 09 or 10 you may notice the steering friction is higher. It was changed because of too many customers complaining about the car pulling to the side.

I would not recommend people making adjustments to their rack friction, its very easy to really screw up your returnability (make a turn and the wheel won't got all the way back to centre). Dealer's 'can' do it, but most of them will screw it up too.

That adjustment is there for high mileage racks where there is actually a rack rattle noise.

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check tire pressure.. mine feels very firmm.
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:04 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I love the sensitivity.
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