any body notice the camber on the back wheels?

[90zcar]

i was looking at the car today from the back end and the wheels in the back have some major camber issues. the tops of the wheels point in. Was wandering if there all like this. if any of u that read this can....go to the back of ur car and look at the side of ur wheels and see if there as straight up and down as the front ones are. Im wandering if i should call the dealer on monday.

[irichard]

Originally Posted by 90zcar

i was looking at the car today from the back end and the wheels in the back have some major camber issues. the tops of the wheels point in. Was wandering if there all like this. if any of u that read this can....go to the back of ur car and look at the side of ur wheels and see if there as straight up and down as the front ones are. Im wandering if i should call the dealer on monday.

i have a sedan...and mines is what you describe....the top of the wheel point a bit inner than the bottom end.

[Yodums]

This is normal for the 8th gen. :) If you take a look around the forums, you'll see that it's been discussed.

[90zcar]

its normal.......? yeah thats the thing if its normal for the civics to be like that....that aint right. its not supposed to be like that. so is it normal when my tires start to go bald like crazy within a year on the inner edges?

[peliROJO]

it's called tire rotation. it should be done every 6000-8000 miles.

[J-Ro]

Originally Posted by 90zcar

its normal.......? yeah thats the thing if its normal for the civics to be like that....that aint right. its not supposed to be like that. so is it normal when my tires start to go bald like crazy within a year on the inner edges?

The idea is that when the car goes into a turn, the suspension geometry and the car's inertia will cause the tire to go slightly more positive camber for the duration of the turn (it will go back once you're out of the turn). If you have slightly negative camber, your car will go to zero camber (or close to it) when you go into the turn, allowing you to maintain the maximum contact patch between your tire and the road. It's like the way rebar preloads a concrete structure.
Sorry to get all sciencey on you, but that's what happens. So to make a long story short, yes, the negative camber is normal, but no, it won't really ruin your tires since the camber degree is very minimal.

J

[UncleSid]

if your that worried about it...just take it to a shop that does alignments...most shops will do a free alignment check. the one i used to work at did free checks all the time.

[06CivEXJon]

I have it too on my EX,the dealer said it was normal.

[khunthun]

If you think that the rear wheels are pointed in at the top alot on stock suspension, try taking a look at the HFP suspension. It is like WOAH compared to the stock suspension. Looks like the car is on constant load.

[cdphillips60]

Take a look at this Formula 1 car and you'll see why camber is so sexy..

[CUPRA]

^^^

Ahhhh I <3 F1

And I remember the good ole days with the tire wars... (yes I know they are intermediates on there)...

[Tastycakes]

Originally Posted by J-Ro

The idea is that when the car goes into a turn, the suspension geometry and the car's inertia will cause the tire to go slightly more positive camber for the duration of the turn (it will go back once you're out of the turn). If you have slightly negative camber, your car will go to zero camber (or close to it) when you go into the turn, allowing you to maintain the maximum contact patch between your tire and the road. It's like the way rebar preloads a concrete structure.
Sorry to get all sciencey on you, but that's what happens. So to make a long story short, yes, the negative camber is normal, but no, it won't really ruin your tires since the camber degree is very minimal.

J

Yea what he said.

I noticed this like a day or two after getting the car, and i was like, yea,

I used to put the camber on my RC buggy to like 30 degrees. Didn't help much but looked cool as shit

[televascular]

Don't worry about tire wear; a little bit of negative camber in the rear won't do any damage.

According to the service manual, the Si coupe has -1° 30' of rear camber. The only reason it comes like this from the factory is to induce understeer; this makes it easier to handle in an adverse situation, especially for the average operator with no experience in high-speed driving.

In terms of track performance, it is a terrible thing. But like Honda says, Safety For Everyone.

[Izzy]

No, THIS is odd camber:

Awesome car btw. I love Evolve's stuff, especially their dual-calipered-on-one-piston S60...hehehe.

The camber that you see on your Civic is normal. It's just one of those things you notice, but all cars have them. I see them quite readily on BMWs. It's good for daily driving, since it makes the car more understeery but less jerky and twitchy.

[Yodums]

[Izzy]

That's not a performance machine Yodums! ....Well, it *is* a performance machine. Kinda like a prostitute and a lap dancer. One WILL get you there, one only seems that she will....y'know?

[Jinu]

our cars alignment was built to understeer, thus making the driving characteristics more predictable. From a performance standpoint our camber is fubar. The front camber is 0 and rear is -1.30+- stock. Less negative camber in the rear and maybe -1.50+- in the front will make the whole driving experience better performance wise.

[GeezerSi]

I believe the Honda specification allows up to -2.3 degrees in the rear. I'm running -2.0 now. Looks kind of obnoxious at certain angles, but makes a difference in the corners.

[kero]

My car has this too and the more weight you put in the back, the more the tops of the wheel point in. I always knew this to be normal.