Skipping Gears

***djdefcon*** · 09-26-2006, 03:21 PM

I thought I would start a thread on this and see what other people hat to say. Personally, in the morning if my SI hasn't had time to warm up I usually go from 1st to 3rd as 3rd is smoother and there isn't much bucking and I normally shift from 2nd to 4th if I don't need much acceleration. Is there (if any) problem with doing this? Any mechanical problems that will result? Becuase if there is any slight posibility of me messing up my tranny I would want to know.

Kakashi · 09-26-2006, 03:23 PM

not really.. i mean as long as your not flooring it, the trans will be fine. I usually start in 2nd too.

AS long as you keep an eye on your current speed, and on your revs, youll be fine.

UncleSid · 09-26-2006, 03:31 PM

i skip gears all the time....if i get on it in first and second and get up to like 55 and wanna just cruise, i sometimes go from 2 to 6..i do it so much i dont even think about it anymore....no big deal really, just as long as you go to the correct gear for the speed your going.

imtim25 · 09-26-2006, 04:08 PM

o man i thought i was the only what that skips gears.

**Cookstar** · 09-26-2006, 04:29 PM

I almost always start in first and I rarely skip gears because I like rowing through the gearbox. I do skip gears when I upshift sometimes.

SuperShale · 09-26-2006, 09:32 PM

Do not skip gears. If you have a problem complying, ask your local Honda Service Center. Skipping gears is the #1 cause of failed synchros.

Tybeedon · 09-26-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperShale

Do not skip gears. If you have a problem complying, ask your local Honda Service Center. Skipping gears is the #1 cause of failed synchros.

Here, from my earlier post elsewhere on the Forum:

Don't Skip-Shift Gears with Manual Trannies!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevzSi
heres a little trick i use for driving heavy traffic (also works in parking lots sometimes). If your going slow in traffic, instead of shifting from 1st to 2nd, shift from 1st to 3rd. Theres going to be a lot less jerk and it will be a little smoother ride. Just be careful not to go too slow in 3rd, so you dont stall.

I have read that it is a BAD thing to skip-shift gears; e.g., from first to third, since it messes up and can damage your gearbox's synchronizer rings.** Has anyone else heard/read about this?

**Edit: I saw this on one of the S2000 Forums some time back. Will try to find the info and post it. Be GOOD to your trannies!

Sam388 · 09-26-2006, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tybeedon

Here, from my earlier post elsewhere on the Forum:

Don't Skip-Shift Gears with Manual Trannies!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevzSi
heres a little trick i use for driving heavy traffic (also works in parking lots sometimes). If your going slow in traffic, instead of shifting from 1st to 2nd, shift from 1st to 3rd. Theres going to be a lot less jerk and it will be a little smoother ride. Just be careful not to go too slow in 3rd, so you dont stall.

I have read that it is a BAD thing to skip-shift gears; e.g., from first to third, since it messes up and can damage your gearbox's synchronizer rings.** Has anyone else heard/read about this?

**Edit: I saw this on one of the S2000 Forums some time back. Will try to find the info and post it. Be GOOD to your trannies!

Did you know that some cars FORCE you to shift from first to fourth under part throttle?

06blaksi · 09-26-2006, 10:30 PM

I don't skip but I sometimes start off in 2nd

Tybeedon · 09-26-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam388

Did you know that some cars FORCE you to shift from first to fourth under part throttle?

Not with any Manual Gearboxes, to the best of my knowledge.

Sam388 · 09-26-2006, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tybeedon

Not with any Manual Gearboxes, to the best of my knowledge.

I know the Corvette used to force you too and people used to disconnect it. Don't know if the C6 does or not.

After a quick search I found this: http://www.vettefinders.com/index.cf...e101Story/ID/8

The Cadillac CTS-V also has this feature.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 09-26-2006, 11:02 PM

you basically burn more clutch... and you might gonna messed up you syncronizers someday...

Sam388 · 09-26-2006, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BATANG CITY JAIL

you basically burn more clutch... and you might gonna messed up you syncronizers someday...

I could see wearing your clutch out more pulling out in second, but not skip shifting.

Tybeedon · 09-27-2006, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam388

I know the Corvette used to force you too and people used to disconnect it. Don't know if the C6 does or not.

After a quick search I found this: http://www.vettefinders.com/index.cf...e101Story/ID/8

The Cadillac CTS-V also has this feature.

Interesting find! I stand corrected. Can't see anyone who likes "real" manual trannies being happy with this dawg-ass feature. Most folks would opt to bypass it real quick!

Doolie77 · 09-27-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam388

I could see wearing your clutch out more pulling out in second, but not skip shifting.

I agree with this!

My brother has been rebuilding trannies in a tranny shop for over 20 years, I'll ask him about skipping. I don't see how it will prematurely wear the syncros. Actually, it would save wear on gears you skip.

rmfa · 09-27-2006, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tybeedon

Not with any Manual Gearboxes, to the best of my knowledge.

This is 100% bull. Get in a Z28 Camaro (earlier model) or a Corvette manual. My roommate has a Z06 and if he floors it in first, it TELLS him on the screen to shift to 4th. The Honda people told me not to skip shift until I was past break-in. If something screws up, its their problem.

janaka · 09-27-2006, 01:40 PM

my friends 02 LS1 Camaro had a skip 1-4 from the factory as well...if you shifted under 3500 or something silly it would divert you to 4th gear.
If double upshifting I don't see an issue if you double clutch as that won't effect the syncho's at all... i double up and down in my wife's accord (04 v6 6spd) and just had the fluid changed and they said everything looked fine in it.

Just my experience's I was always curious if it was a bad idea but if i double up i usually double clutch like in the old'n days (LOL i'm only 24 and i act like i'm 60)

tommyroo · 09-28-2006, 02:12 PM

Hrm...anyone know for sure if this is bad or not. Often I get up to the speed I want, say 65 in 3rd, then just put it into 5th to cruise.

BATANG CITY JAIL · 09-28-2006, 04:08 PM

okey.. i just found out just today... if your skipping gears.. i wont hurt your tranny and your clutch, you will diffenatly be hurt on your gas mileage.. and you just put more wear on the engine in the long run...

tommyroo · 09-29-2006, 12:09 PM

Looking at this http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm I don't think it could cause any harm at all.

09-26-2006, 03:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
*djdefcon* VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paramus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 3,202 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Skipping Gears I thought I would start a thread on this and see what other people hat to say. Personally, in the morning if my SI hasn't had time to warm up I usually go from 1st to 3rd as 3rd is smoother and there isn't much bucking and I normally shift from 2nd to 4th if I don't need much acceleration. Is there (if any) problem with doing this? Any mechanical problems that will result? Becuase if there is any slight posibility of me messing up my tranny I would want to know. __________________

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09-26-2006, 03:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kakashi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Aurora CO Age: 22 Posts: 3,707 iTrader: 1 / 100%	not really.. i mean as long as your not flooring it, the trans will be fine. I usually start in 2nd too. AS long as you keep an eye on your current speed, and on your revs, youll be fine.

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UncleSid Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Taylor MI Age: 24 Posts: 660 Sid iTrader: 1 / 100%	i skip gears all the time....if i get on it in first and second and get up to like 55 and wanna just cruise, i sometimes go from 2 to 6..i do it so much i dont even think about it anymore....no big deal really, just as long as you go to the correct gear for the speed your going.

09-26-2006, 04:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
imtim25 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,282 iTrader: 0 / 0%	o man i thought i was the only what that skips gears.

09-26-2006, 04:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cookstar Sensible member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: China Grove, NC Age: 34 Posts: 4,083 Chris iTrader: 9 / 100%	I almost always start in first and I rarely skip gears because I like rowing through the gearbox. I do skip gears when I upshift sometimes.

09-26-2006, 09:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
SuperShale Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 56 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Do not skip gears. If you have a problem complying, ask your local Honda Service Center. Skipping gears is the #1 cause of failed synchros.

09-26-2006, 10:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
06blaksi Senior Member Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: in teh basement Age: 41 Posts: 49,431 iTrader: 23 / 100%	I don't skip but I sometimes start off in 2nd

09-26-2006, 11:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
BATANG CITY JAIL Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Durham, NC..£╖╒◙o├æ Posts: 8,327 iTrader: 10 / 100%	you basically burn more clutch... and you might gonna messed up you syncronizers someday...

09-27-2006, 01:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
janaka Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cambridge Posts: 585 iTrader: 1 / 100%	my friends 02 LS1 Camaro had a skip 1-4 from the factory as well...if you shifted under 3500 or something silly it would divert you to 4th gear. If double upshifting I don't see an issue if you double clutch as that won't effect the syncho's at all... i double up and down in my wife's accord (04 v6 6spd) and just had the fluid changed and they said everything looked fine in it. Just my experience's I was always curious if it was a bad idea but if i double up i usually double clutch like in the old'n days (LOL i'm only 24 and i act like i'm 60)

09-28-2006, 02:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
tommyroo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,151 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hrm...anyone know for sure if this is bad or not. Often I get up to the speed I want, say 65 in 3rd, then just put it into 5th to cruise.

09-28-2006, 04:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
BATANG CITY JAIL Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Durham, NC..£╖╒◙o├æ Posts: 8,327 iTrader: 10 / 100%	okey.. i just found out just today... if your skipping gears.. i wont hurt your tranny and your clutch, you will diffenatly be hurt on your gas mileage.. and you just put more wear on the engine in the long run...

09-29-2006, 12:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
tommyroo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,151 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Looking at this http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm I don't think it could cause any harm at all.