tapped rev limiter....HARD, REALLY HARD

[kingcivic06]

i was driving my fg2 the other day, not paying any attention, and i went into the wrong gear- into 3rd from 4th, and i was supposed to go to 5th! i was already pretty high in my rpms when i was shifting from 4th. so i hit the limiter really hard, and my car felt like it buckled. first time i ever did this and i promise it will be the last! i immediately hit the clutch and threw it into neutral. no CEL...no idle problems....but....whenever i start my car up now, it makes a "click" noise (only when i crank it). i took it in to honda and told my buddy, that was also the technician working on my car, what i did (he did the same think in his subaru sti and bent a valve). he said my engine internals seem fine and that the noise sounds like its coming from my starter. i asked him if he could do a compression check, but he said that there is no need to cuz if i bent a valve just a tiny bit or ruined anything internally just a bit, my CEL will come on and my ecu would be throwing codes. the car still runs like a champ, but that noise just bugs me everytime i start her up (i posted about this noise a few days ago, he said that the starter will make some kind of noise when its broken in, but if the noise worsens, he will replace it).

input anyone? i'm so freakin paranoid that theres something wrong with my car now.

can hitting the rev limiter the way i did cause any related problems to my starter??? it never made that noise before i f'ed up. stupid me..doh!!!

[ethlar]

hitting the rev limiter shouldnt cause a problem, typically hondas are set up with the limiters much lower than what the engine can actually handle. The sound could also be just something that was always there, you only just noticed it because you were looking for something.

[Nox]

+1...

[HabaneroGuy]

Originally Posted by kingcivic06

i was driving my fg2 the other day, not paying any attention, and i went into the wrong gear- into 3rd from 4th, and i was supposed to go to 5th! i was already pretty high in my rpms when i was shifting from 4th. so i hit the limiter really hard, and my car felt like it buckled. first time i ever did this and i promise it will be the last! i immediately hit the clutch and threw it into neutral. no CEL...no idle problems....but....whenever i start my car up now, it makes a "click" noise (only when i crank it). i took it in to honda and told my buddy, that was also the technician working on my car, what i did (he did the same think in his subaru sti and bent a valve). he said my engine internals seem fine and that the noise sounds like its coming from my starter. i asked him if he could do a compression check, but he said that there is no need to cuz if i bent a valve just a tiny bit or ruined anything internally just a bit, my CEL will come on and my ecu would be throwing codes. the car still runs like a champ, but that noise just bugs me everytime i start her up (i posted about this noise a few days ago, he said that the starter will make some kind of noise when its broken in, but if the noise worsens, he will replace it).

input anyone? i'm so freakin paranoid that theres something wrong with my car now.

can hitting the rev limiter the way i did cause any related problems to my starter??? it never made that noise before i f'ed up. stupid me..doh!!!

I did the same thing but worst. I down shifted from 5th to 2nd and the rpms went to around 9000. But I have not had any problems. I think you should be fine.

[kingcivic06]

Originally Posted by ethlar

hitting the rev limiter shouldnt cause a problem, typically hondas are set up with the limiters much lower than what the engine can actually handle. The sound could also be just something that was always there, you only just noticed it because you were looking for something.

true...i never listened for something before it happened. paranoia sux!

[wargate]

Yeah that feeling is horrible. I normally shift at like 8k but one time went a lil too high....uhhh shudder. I like the red light but not the limiter feeling.

[Street2uned]

Originally Posted by ethlar

hitting the rev limiter shouldnt cause a problem, typically hondas are set up with the limiters much lower than what the engine can actually handle. The sound could also be just something that was always there, you only just noticed it because you were looking for something.

+1....It'll be fine man, don't sweat it

[kingcivic06]

the honda tech, who's also a buddy of mine, said that if the noise gets worse or causes any other problem...then they will replace the starter. should i wait? or should i go ahead and get it replaced before something major happens? its a "click" right when i turn the key and only when i turn the key.

[BlueSi]

ATTENTION EVERYONE: There is no rev limiter when you down shift!!!

If you hit the clutch right away then you are probably okay. A bent valve would cause a lot of problems.

[dobiejoe]

Originally Posted by BlueSi

ATTENTION EVERYONE: There is no rev limiter when you down shift!!!

If you hit the clutch right away then you are probably okay. A bent valve would cause a lot of problems.

I agree he did not hit the limiter up shifting . It was considered a down shift rev limiter.

[kingcivic06]

Originally Posted by BlueSi

ATTENTION EVERYONE: There is no rev limiter when you down shift!!!

If you hit the clutch right away then you are probably okay. A bent valve would cause a lot of problems.

but i dont think i bent a valve. i bent a valve in my em1 cuz my toda timing belt snapped and the CEL was on and was throwing codes....it sounded like shit and it idled like shit.
my fg2 is not throwing codes nor is the CEL on. it runs fine and idles fine. and it sounds the way it did before i f'ed up. so i'm pretty sure i hit the clutch in time.

[BlueSi]

Yeah, I don't think you bent a valve either. I was just trying to get the point acress that the rev limiter will NOT save you from downshift over-revving. If you go from 5th to 2nd you will F up your motor. The limiter only kicks in for upshifts. People don't seem to realize this.

[kingcivic06]

Originally Posted by BlueSi

Yeah, I don't think you bent a valve either. I was just trying to get the point acress that the rev limiter will NOT save you from downshift over-revving. If you go from 5th to 2nd you will F up your motor. The limiter only kicks in for upshifts. People don't seem to realize this.

yeah i had to figure it out the hard way. when i f'ed up, i look at my tach and it was way past 8k

i'm still for doin it. just so paranoid that i hurt my baby

[radiocontrolhead]

Originally Posted by kingcivic06

the honda tech, who's also a buddy of mine, said that if the noise gets worse or causes any other problem...then they will replace the starter. should i wait? or should i go ahead and get it replaced before something major happens? its a "click" right when i turn the key and only when i turn the key.

my si has that same sound every once in a while. it's mainly because i dont press my clutch ALL the way in, and i'm still in first. i'm just thinking ti's because the engien is rubbing just a tad bit against the clutch when it's in first so it gives off that click sound which is the play in the starter/motor.

next time. give a second. throw ur tranny into neutral and press clutch in all the way. you wont hear a sound.

i've heard this noise for a while and i never assed up like you did.

[kingcivic06]

^^^the clutch is always pressed all the way down when i start it.

[targettuning]

there is no rev limiter on downshifts? A rev limiter is just that..it protects the engine from over revving whether on upshifting OR downshifting and it operates the same no matter what the circumstances are. Unless of course Honda has no interest in preserving its(your) engines unless you are upshifting only...possible but not likely.

[BlueSi]

Originally Posted by targettuning

there is no rev limiter on downshifts? A rev limiter is just that..it protects the engine from over revving whether on upshifting OR downshifting and it operates the same no matter what the circumstances are. Unless of course Honda has no interest in preserving its(your) engines unless you are upshifting only...possible but not likely.

Okay, if you don't believe me then go try it later. Then we will see what is not likely. Do some research before posting technical stuff. You will screw people with your lack of knowledge.

[radiocontrolhead]

Originally Posted by BlueSi

Okay, if you don't believe me then go try it later. Then we will see what is not likely. Do some research before posting technical stuff. You will screw people with your lack of knowledge.

i agree w/ you. people on this board think they know more than they acctually do. in this case, he is totally wrong. he doesnt' understand that the interia of the car pushes the engines beyond it's limits, in which case the limiter does kick in, but does nothing to stop it from pushing it. laws of phsyics just dont work here.

[targettuning]

the engine is protected from self destructing if you happen to miss a shift upshifting and the engine tries to go beyond the 8K redline (or whatever RPM Honda decided was enough) BUT if the engine tries to go beyond that same limit on a downshift BOOM !!! Right? The engine rev limiter does not know or care from what direction the over-rev occurred(up or down shift) only that it is overrevving and gosh I better not let the engine do that because that is my job to prevent it... so yeah it will keep the engine from any over rev situation unless the Honda engineering department is exceptionally stupid. I do not specifically know if Honda has set it up that way but what the hell do I know ?? Oh and radiocontrolhead neither inertia or physics has any bearing on a fuel or spark shut-off rev limiter... it a pre-programmed function of the engine management system (computer)...the engine simply will not rev any higher without either. Neither will be returned until engine speed drops below a preset limit (RPM) hence the name rev limiter.

[Izzy]

Actually, it states in the manual that when downshifting, the rev limiter will not come on. They in fact, warn you about this.

Moreover, I think we're talking about downshifting from...5th to 4th when you're at 7k, so you'll just blow past that rev limiter.