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Old 09-07-2006, 02:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MY WARRANTY----VOID!!!!

My shift cable broke last week and I got it replaced under warranty, but due to my exhaust, highflow cat, and intake, my power train warranty is void! As well as my emissions system warranty! What do you all think about this?
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think that was to be expected, no?
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's the danger in doing modifications unfortunately. Part of the reason I've always hesitated adding mods. Still sucks though man.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I talked with the guy that has been submitting all my maintenance request and he said the warrenty wouldn't be voided untill I messed with anything infront of the cat, so as long as I am dealing with this dealer an exhaust and my SRI are not a problem.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think that was to be expected, no?
It sucks, but it's true. You've got to be careful with certain modifications, especially anything dealing with the engine or electric.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That is why you save your factory parts so u can throw them back on before you take it in for service.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Exactly.. If I was ever taking my car in for service I'd remove whatever mods I had done assuming they were rediculously time consuming to remove.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Exactly.. If I was ever taking my car in for service I'd remove whatever mods I had done assuming they weren't rediculously time consuming to remove.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I did'nt think that SRI and exhaust voided a warranty, when I had my SRT-4 I had all of that plus a boost controller and an adjustable waste gate and still had my warranty, I though Honda was more lax on mods than other manufacturers.
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Technically nothing can void a warranty without proof that it caused the problem at hand. Read up on the Magnuson Moss Act regarding warranty claims.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I did'nt think that SRI and exhaust voided a warranty, when I had my SRT-4 I had all of that plus a boost controller and an adjustable waste gate and still had my warranty, I though Honda was more lax on mods than other manufacturers.

It varies from dealer to dealer. If and when you need work under warranty go to a different dealer and put your stock airbox back on.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Unless they can prove that those modifications altered your cable and caused it to break, you have a legal issue

as stated above the moss magnusson act is not a joke, read up on it

Just because you put an intake etc etc on a motor does not mean that a blown head or rod thru the block... could have been caused by it.... ( just an example)
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It varies from dealer to dealer. If and when you need work under warranty go to a different dealer and put your stock airbox back on.

I agree put your stock parts back on the car and bring it to anouther dealer.
Just hope that they haven't made a claim on your car with Corperat Honda.
They might have a dealer network and they can share information when they punch in your vin it will come up so the sooner you act the better. I know this because Lexus and Toyota do this.
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Unless they can prove that those modifications altered your cable and caused it to break, you have a legal issue

as stated above the moss magnusson act is not a joke, read up on it

Just because you put an intake etc etc on a motor does not mean that a blown head or rod thru the block... could have been caused by it.... ( just an example)
Yeah, I thought that based on the Magnussen Act, the dealership would have to prove that your mods were the cause of your problem. I'm not a car expert by any means so if anyone can enlighten me on how his mods may have caused the problem, please let me know (not being a smart ass, I genuinely would like to know).
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This is like an urban legend that just keeps popping up. For God's sake, someone put http://www.answers.com/topic/magnussen-moss-act or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act up as a sticky so people will stop posting these ridiculous claims.
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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yo....this guy beside me was reading your post... he said and me too... your stupid if you ask about if you viod you warrenty... you cahnge that cat and it should be voided.....
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What's the urban legend, that the dealer can't void your warranty unless they prove your mods caused the problem or that they CAN void your warranty? I'm not entirely sure what you meant but the link you provided says exactly what I was talking about:

"Magnussen-Moss Act of 1978 was created for consumer protection from manufacturers voiding warrantys without reasonable cause. Most notable feature of the Magnussen-Moss Act is protections for persons with devices, vehicles, or products protected under Warranty. Warrantors are not allowed to make arbitrary decisions in their own favor to void warranties for changes made to these unless they can specifically prove that the added or modified part caused the failure. Although some states prevent attorneys from advertising as specializing in specific fields, there are some that specialize in this field and can be found on the internet. So if you refill your own printerink cartridge and the power cord fails, or add an aftermarket exhaust to your vehicle and a headlight fails, or a variety of other things consumers are likely to do to something they purchase, a manufacturer cannot simply void your warranty with this as the specified cause."

I don't know the specific details of the warranty though but if it specifically says that you can't make such mods than you're screwed.
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I agree about the sticky.

I asked two dealers (I'm in Canada) one in my city and one in a small town about 45 minutes away to make sure they were working around the same rules about this and they told me the exact same answer.
the first one, i had talked to in person.
me: "will aftermarket parts void warranty or stop you guys from doing anything to my car?"
guy at customer service: "yes and no.. if you get aftermarket springs and your struts go out and we find that it was because of your springs, we can't fix it. If you get a muffler, and the weld breaks/is about to break while we check, we can't fix it. You can do whatever you want to your car, but we suggest you go to a qualified and trusted place for your installations, that way theres no problems down the road."

i was satisfied and more than happy to hear that so i can continue my modding.

second one called me back and answered with the same thing. I'm not sure if they know about that act, but they state it the exact same way. if what you put on the car was related to what broke it, we can't fix it.
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I agree about the sticky.

I asked two dealers (I'm in Canada) one in my city and one in a small town about 45 minutes away to make sure they were working around the same rules about this and they told me the exact same answer.
the first one, i had talked to in person.
me: "will aftermarket parts void warranty or stop you guys from doing anything to my car?"
guy at customer service: "yes and no.. if you get aftermarket springs and your struts go out and we find that it was because of your springs, we can't fix it. If you get a muffler, and the weld breaks/is about to break while we check, we can't fix it. You can do whatever you want to your car, but we suggest you go to a qualified and trusted place for your installations, that way theres no problems down the road."

i was satisfied and more than happy to hear that so i can continue my modding.

second one called me back and answered with the same thing. I'm not sure if they know about that act, but they state it the exact same way. if what you put on the car was related to what broke it, we can't fix it.
I think the answers that you got were more than fair from the dealers. I would love to have those dealers around me.
where are you living? I'm in Canada, Ontario specifically
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