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Old 10-09-2008, 07:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do I have a valid Lemon Law case w/ our sun visors?

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This is the nth time getting my visors replaced since buying the car (it's been more than four). Would this be covered under the California Lemon Law? The thing is that the once they get broken, you cannot put them back up, blocking my view of the road. In my eyes, this is a safety hazard. I've already been pulled over once for almost nailing a pedestrian crossing the street because our a-pillars have a blind spot worst than other cars (because how raked the windshield is). Now with the visor broken blocking more of my view, this is a MAJOR safety hazard.

You would think that Honda would own up on this and create a new visor for all these defective sun visors - but they haven't. I'm in contact with a lawyer right now to see if I (or we in this matter) have a case against Honda. I'll let you guys know what comes about.....

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Old 10-09-2008, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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its covered by honda warranty. that happened to my 06 civic a number of times. just take it to the dealership and they should replace it for free.
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its covered by honda warranty. that happened to my 06 civic a number of times. just take it to the dealership and they should replace it for free.
that's not my issue - i get it replaced every other month by my dealer. Some people in the southwestern states, the dealerships will not replace them because of the heat - which is BEYOND RIDICULOUS.

My question is if I have a case against Honda - especially this being a safety concern. If Honda prides themselves on being safe - they should do something about this.
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it's possible, it all depends on the lemon laws in your state and how good your lawyer is. good luck my friend f*** corporate America
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im confused....didnt i give you an overall explanation about the lemon law on this same exact post last night??? im confused
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Nonconformity" means a nonconformity which substantially impairs the use, value, or safety of the new motor vehicle to the buyer or lessee.

California Lemon Law 1793.22.

This section shall be known and may be cited as the Tanner Consumer Protection Act.


It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been made to conform a new motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties if, within 18 months from delivery to the buyer or 18,000 miles on the odometer of the vehicle, whichever occurs first, one or more of the following occurs:


The same nonconformity results in a condition that is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury if the vehicle is driven and the nonconformity has been subject to repair two or more times by the manufacturer or its agents, and the buyer or lessee has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the nonconformity.


The same nonconformity has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents and the buyer has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the nonconformity.


The vehicle is out of service by reason of repair of nonconformities by the manufacturer or its agents for a cumulative total of more than 30 calendar days since delivery of the vehicle to the buyer. The 30-day limit shall be extended only if repairs cannot be performed due to conditions beyond the control of the manufacturer or its agents. The buyer shall be required to directly notify the manufacturer pursuant to paragraphs (1) and (2) only if the manufacturer has clearly and conspicuously disclosed to the buyer, with the warranty or the owner's manual, the provisions of this section and that of subdivision (d) of Section 1793.2, including the requirement that the buyer must notify the manufacturer directly pursuant to paragraphs (1) and (2). The notification, if required, shall be sent to the address, if any, specified clearly and conspicuously by the manufacturer in the warranty or owner's manual. This presumption shall be a rebuttable presumption affecting the burden of proof, and it may be asserted by the buyer in any civil action, including an action in small claims court, or other formal or informal proceeding.

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im confused....didnt i give you an overall explanation about the lemon law on this same exact post last night??? im confused
haha thanks - i know

i put it here because it isn't as visible in the other section - asking the mods to close the other one.
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what's ur reasoning behind this?
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I doubt you can use the lemon law.

The visors do not obstruct the view like the a pillars say you do.

Also the visors are being replaced each time which does solve your problem temporarily.
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bro my mats keep getting worn in from me using them too, i took it to the dealers 4 times for this. still no fix


do i qualify for the lemon law too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!







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Old 10-10-2008, 01:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I doubt you can use the lemon law.

The visors do not obstruct the view like the a pillars say you do.

Also the visors are being replaced each time which does solve your problem temporarily.
but you see that's the problem "temporarily" - they fix it and a month later it breaks -isn't that the definition of a lemon???

are u serious? the visors block a portion of your view (that's why they're visors, no) and without the option to put them back up, I'm left with a bigger blind spot.

Oh c'mon impolsive - if the mat had a safety concern, such as it being pushed into the gas and brake area - then u bet Honda would do something. They did that to the s2000. But the civics have hooks to keep them in place. What ur saying is a matter of wear and tear. My visors aren't even on my car for a month and they break. That's not because of usage - that's because of Honda's negligence. And because of their negligence - it's now a safety concern.
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Old 10-10-2008, 01:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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lol @ sunvisor causing a 20k+ car to be lemon lawed. its not a major malfunction and any lawyers office that you walk into will laugh and not take the case.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I've gone through a lemon law claim with Honda before... actually I'm still going through it as we've reached a settlement but I still haven't received my check. They're really stubborn and drag their feet through the entire process. My claim is almost over, but it has been 2 1/2 years of hell. Frankly, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemies.
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