Is this (clutch engagement point) an indication of a dying clutch?

[nayilsi]

Originally Posted by -j-

nayilsi, I hate to do this. He said, installed.

Some shops may be able to do it cheaper or friends, but make sure they know what they are doing. It would suck to have to do it again.

700-800 bucks installed.... sounded too good to be true

lol

[I Vtec, do you?]

Clutch installs sound quite expensive. If I had to do one, I'd definitely go aftermarket instead of paying the high costs for OEM, especially when I bet the OEM clutch isn't very robust. Just made for the average Joe.

[e60.deluxe]

clutch installs are expensive in a transaxle car because you have to drop the trans. the cost difference isnt really there.

the stock clutchs are designed to engage smoothly, aftermarket ones are designed for power and quick shifts. they generally have few pucks, and they grab abruptly. my advise is, if your burning out an OEM honda (super easy) clutch in less than 100k, dont get an aftermarket.

[JoeFromPA]

$800 would cover a $300 OEM clutch kit (i.e. clutch disk, pressure plate, release bearing, etc.) and $500 in labor, which is probably pretty easy to achieve. So I think the cost I quoted would not be hard to find for an OEM clutch.

Aftermarket clutches are what they are...you should not assume an aftermarket clutch (or any part) is automatically better.

As e60 deluxe pointed out (do you own a 2004+ 5-series?), OEM-style clutches have the following going for them:

-Designed for smooth engagement and long life
-Utilize an organic material which can afford to be over-heated...when it cools, it regains it's friction characteristics.
-When installed properly, it'll feel and operate like stock

Aftermarket clutches are often built to handle greater torque loads. They do this, typically, at the expense of some engagement. Now don't get me wrong....there are aftermarket clutches that will improve clutch pedal feel, have great engagement, and provide long life. They typically are....you guessed it....an OEM-style design. They utilize the same clutch design and use an organic material, as opposed to say....a 4 or 6-puck kevlar friction material, which will grab like a mofo and make driving in traffic the worst day of your life.

When or if my SI's clutch dies, I might go with an OEM style aftermarket clutch. But I'll do so with the sure knowledge that I am trading the solidity of the stock clutch for the possibility of improved clutch pedal feel/clutch capacity and the potential for unintended consequences.

Joe

[falcons693]

ok so what does this mean:

i'll shift from 2nd - 3rd or 4th -5th and while not pushing the gas just the cluth the rmps raise and keep going up to the red line until i shift and get off the cluth.

i have an 06 ex

[Phalanx]

^ are you not on the gas at all... or are you just not moving your gas-pedal foot?

[-j-]

Originally Posted by falcons693

ok so what does this mean:

i'll shift from 2nd - 3rd or 4th -5th and while not pushing the gas just the cluth the rmps raise and keep going up to the red line until i shift and get off the cluth.

i have an 06 ex

That sounds like a software issue. You may want to bring that in for service and have them check it out. You are still under warranty, right?

[falcons693]

i'm out of warranty by about 5,000 miles and i'm completely off the gas and when i push the clutch in the rpm's start to raise like my foot is still on the gas

[LoverOfCivics]

Originally Posted by falcons693

i'm out of warranty by about 5,000 miles and i'm completely off the gas and when i push the clutch in the rpm's start to raise like my foot is still on the gas

check your floor mat i know it sounds stupid but once when i cleaned mine i was to lazy to put it back on the little hooks.

On the way home i was in the process of shifting and all of the sudden
the rpms just rise and bounce off the rev limiter
( i had the clutch pedal on the floor because i was shifting)
i was so scared my motor was gonna be toast and something seriously wrong i shut it off and pulled over popped open the hood jumped out and checked the motor, belt, oil etc. and when i opened my door again i look down and what do you know my floor matt had slid all the way up kinda of pressing on the gas by it self it probably wouldnt have had enough force to push the gas but i guess my foot was pushing it foward.

Well i fixed the floor matt the right way and turned the car on and let out a sigh of relief lol i thought my car was gone but it was ok.

Long story short check the floor matt

sorry for such a long post lol

[EagleEyez]

Originally Posted by LoverOfCivics

check your floor mat i know it sounds stupid but once when i cleaned mine i was to lazy to put it back on the little hooks.

On the way home i was in the process of shifting and all of the sudden
the rpms just rise and bounce off the rev limiter
( i had the clutch pedal on the floor because i was shifting)
i was so scared my motor was gonna be toast and something seriously wrong i shut it off and pulled over popped open the hood jumped out and checked the motor, belt, oil etc. and when i opened my door again i look down and what do you know my floor matt had slid all the way up kinda of pressing on the gas by it self it probably wouldnt have had enough force to push the gas but i guess my foot was pushing it foward.

Well i fixed the floor matt the right way and turned the car on and let out a sigh of relief lol i thought my car was gone but it was ok.

Long story short check the floor matt

sorry for such a long post lol

Floor mat messed me up also on my old gti

[obert]

Originally Posted by ernestjohnson1

if it s not slipping the clutch is good