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Old 03-22-2006, 01:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Thanks very much unplugged you are very helpful!
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Thanks very much unplugged you are very helpful!
no problem.. XenonDepot is one of the best kits out there too because of the ballasts they use. I would definitely recommend them!

If you need any help with the install, let me know. Its basically plug and play.
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If the hids use 9-12v power and only 35w (which is less than basically any halogen bulb) then there is no reason to use a relay. AND BTW, if you ordered the right size for your car and the bulbs dont fit, then theres a problem. There should be no need to drill anything. I have done many installs and never should you drill anything into the housing. I have even done installs using oem hid's from other cars, and you just need the adaptor ring, which they sell at most performance shops, and silicon(sp?) it on the bulb. Wiring is easy. You should only use a relay when you are installing as an extra accessory. The is no need for a relay when using them as replacements to stock headlights.
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If the hids use 9-12v power and only 35w (which is less than basically any halogen bulb) then there is no reason to use a relay. AND BTW, if you ordered the right size for your car and the bulbs dont fit, then theres a problem. There should be no need to drill anything. I have done many installs and never should you drill anything into the housing. I have even done installs using oem hid's from other cars, and you just need the adaptor ring, which they sell at most performance shops, and silicon(sp?) it on the bulb. Wiring is easy. You should only use a relay when you are installing as an extra accessory. The is no need for a relay when using them as replacements to stock headlights.
I never drilled anything into the housing. And NO, 35w/12v is not enough to turn these HID's on. You need a relay to get power from the battery. Once powered, it is enough because HID's use less power once running. They need something like 20,000 volts to turn on. The ballast can't produce that with mere stock wiring.

If you think you can get away with powering these on from the stock bulb wiring, then your in for some fuse blowing, possible cause of fire.
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I never drilled anything into the housing. And NO, 35w/12v is not enough to turn these HID's on. You need a relay to get power from the battery. Once powered, it is enough because HID's use less power once running. They need something like 20,000 volts to turn on. The ballast can't produce that with mere stock wiring.

If you think you can get away with powering these on from the stock bulb wiring, then your in for some fuse blowing, possible cause of fire.
The fuse will blow WAY BEFORE A FIRE. And besides that's what the ballast is there for(to start the lights). Have you seen the factory wires for cars that come equiped with HID's? Its the same guage. And if you need proof, Ill get home and snap some pics of the maxima. I have never had a stock fuse blow as of yet. And I've done upwards of 40 installs. I install all of them the same way. Im not knocking the use of relay, but in my personal experience its a waste of time. I do, however, use a relay when using a switch. Direct current should never go through a switch.
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The fuse will blow WAY BEFORE A FIRE. And besides that's what the ballast is there for(to start the lights). Have you seen the factory wires for cars that come equiped with HID's? Its the same guage. And if you need proof, Ill get home and snap some pics of the maxima. I have never had a stock fuse blow as of yet. And I've done upwards of 40 installs. I install all of them the same way. Im not knocking the use of relay, but in my personal experience its a waste of time. I do, however, use a relay when using a switch. Direct current should never go through a switch.
Well the kit comes with a relay so i used it, especially since it'll void the 1 yr warranty if I don't. I'm sure the factory wiring could possibly handle it, but i rather not take a chance.. fuse or fire. Especially while driving at night. Nothing wrong with using the relay either.

As for waste of time.. its all pre-wired.
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Well the kit comes with a relay so i used it, especially since it'll void the 1 yr warranty if I don't. I'm sure the factory wiring could possibly handle it, but i rather not take a chance.. fuse or fire. Especially while driving at night. Nothing wrong with using the relay either.

As for waste of time.. its all pre-wired.
W.E. im not trying to start an argument. Thanks for the writeup, its cool that you are willing to take the time to help other people out.
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Just one last question, xenondept has all those HID's that are indeed universal and will fit our cars? and what wattage/voltage do we need to use? higher or lower then stock?
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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W.E. im not trying to start an argument. Thanks for the writeup, its cool that you are willing to take the time to help other people out.
I understand.. i'm trying to help the members out as I used to be the one always learning..its my turn to give back.
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Just one last question, xenondept has all those HID's that are indeed universal and will fit our cars? and what wattage/voltage do we need to use? higher or lower then stock?
the kit does it all for you. All kits are universal, but fit - plug and play.
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Sorry if i am reading all this stuff wrong but i am jsut about getting off work so jsut quick skimming. but it seems like theres a lot to do for the xenondepo kits. doesn't seem very plug and play and go kinda thing. I got a kit like the Kaixen where its jsut like changing the bulbs (with ballast and relay) but basically if you follow the "how to change your bulbs" section in the manual you can do it. The relay was tricky (if you dun like fcuking aroudn with the battery) had to hook it up to the battery directly and then it splits off to two sides of the car where the ballasts would be located. 06civEXJon, i think when you asked about the type stuff, you're looking for 9006 bulbs (or HB4) for the low beams. DRL/Highbeams are 9005 (or HB3) but i just did the low beams for HID. dunno how it would work with hi and low beams, splicing wires? or completely different set? dunno
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Sorry if i am reading all this stuff wrong but i am jsut about getting off work so jsut quick skimming. but it seems like theres a lot to do for the xenondepo kits. doesn't seem very plug and play and go kinda thing. I got a kit like the Kaixen where its jsut like changing the bulbs (with ballast and relay) but basically if you follow the "how to change your bulbs" section in the manual you can do it. The relay was tricky (if you dun like fcuking aroudn with the battery) had to hook it up to the battery directly and then it splits off to two sides of the car where the ballasts would be located. 06civEXJon, i think when you asked about the type stuff, you're looking for 9006 bulbs (or HB4) for the low beams. DRL/Highbeams are 9005 (or HB3) but i just did the low beams for HID. dunno how it would work with hi and low beams, splicing wires? or completely different set? dunno
i dont know any kits that are different then the xenondepot as far as wiring.. the wire harness is all setup.. you just have to plug to connectors.. peice of cake
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I have an old school kit here, that doesnt have a relay. You plug it into the plug for the 9006 and then put the hid bulb in the socket. Simple 2 step installation... I could show you pics.
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I have an old school kit here, that doesnt have a relay. You plug it into the plug for the 9006 and then put the hid bulb in the socket. Simple 2 step installation... I could show you pics.

there's no ballasts? or did you leave it out of what you wrote?
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there's no ballasts? or did you leave it out of what you wrote?
Well I thought it's assumed... ballast has a 9006 plug for the fact. harness. And the light just fits into the 9006 socket on the headlamp.
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You guys might want to add these pics to the install guide. I took them tonight while installing my Xenon Depot 6000k HID kit.

Driver Side Mounted



Passenger Side Mounted



Headlamp Bolts to remove headlamp if you choose to.







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The rest of the pics I took can be seen HERE
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i dont know any kits that are different then the xenondepot as far as wiring.. the wire harness is all setup.. you just have to plug to connectors.. peice of cake
i'd have to admit, i was a little bewildered with i got my kit too, i was all prep for the xenondepot style instalation. I have pics and i'll try to up load them... but mine works in a similar way, its just that it doesn't get the power from the stock sockets (the white plug that goes into the 9006 bulbs). instead its hooked up to the battery, goes to the ballast then to the HID bulbs. and to control on and off, it uses the stock socket (the white plug that goes into the 9006 bulbs) from one side to get the signal (on or off). ITs pretty unique IMO, seems kinda old school too, but its working aight but doesn't seem very space efficient, cause i now have a bundle of wires ontop of my battery.... haven't had time to think about where else to tie it down to yet.
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i'd have to admit, i was a little bewildered with i got my kit too, i was all prep for the xenondepot style instalation. I have pics and i'll try to up load them... but mine works in a similar way, its just that it doesn't get the power from the stock sockets (the white plug that goes into the 9006 bulbs). instead its hooked up to the battery, goes to the ballast then to the HID bulbs. and to control on and off, it uses the stock socket (the white plug that goes into the 9006 bulbs) from one side to get the signal (on or off). ITs pretty unique IMO, seems kinda old school too, but its working aight but doesn't seem very space efficient, cause i now have a bundle of wires ontop of my battery.... haven't had time to think about where else to tie it down to yet.
the factory sockets act like the switch to power the ballasts.. the actual power comes from the battery on my kit
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I just had to say something. Even though the aftermarket HID kits nowadays are getting better in terms of reliability. Their product and result qualities still will never match the OEM. The bulbs from XenonDepot are not genuine Philips bulbs. If you want to do it right, and get the true effect of HID. Get a retrofit. If you really just want a cheaper alternative way, make sure you get relay harness, so it doesn’t mess up your electricity system in the long run. And aim your lights lower, so you don’t blind other drivers.
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because the abs controller is in the way on the passanger side ,plus you need room to work honda packs it tight . you cant even chance a front turn signal without taking off the bumper ..i know it sucks i have 2
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