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Old 05-11-2008, 12:31 AM   #201 (permalink)
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lights need balance ...

thats what my hids looked like when i first installed them .. you need to lower the left light ..
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:19 AM   #204 (permalink)
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hmm... $60 for HIR (Halogen Infrared Reflecting) bulbs -eBay Motors: TOSHIBA HIR 9011 & 9012 BULBS, THE BRIGHTEST AVAILABLE (item 170197544670 end time Mar-05-08 11:49:00 PST)- that 'may' produce twice the light as normal halogens and also have a decreased life expectancy since your increasing the heat of the filament, or $150 for a true HID kit that produces 5x the light of halogens and are guaranteed to last 3x longer than oem halogens? Tough decision.
hmmm wonder where u get ur info from
ACTUALLY
they DO produce more lumens, and the 65W lasts JUST as lone as the 65W 9005 u currently have
the 9006 lasts LONGER than the halogens ive seen
ALSO
plug and play kits are NOT garunteed to last 3 times longer
and MANY of them DONT last anywhere near as long as the HIRs even last
reason for is low quality parts included
even people who sell not so bad quality ones (kassabbain) have problems with the kits sometimes
also they will require u to use a harness JUSt in case the ballast IS bad
cause if it is, youll be replacing your car wiring in short order

now
HIRs have been WELL researched and tested next to the leading HIDs (philips) and leading halogen bulbs (different variations of Sylvania)
first off, Silverstar puts out 15% less light than a standard halogen, and 20% less for the ULTRA version
their Xtravision tho puts out 10% more lumens
The HIR version of each bulb wipped the Xtravisions output in every category
they are made by Toshiba (a WELL known company) and its THEIR projected life on the bulb (which 55W lasts 2-3x longer than 55W 9006)
the filament MAY burn hotter, but if they make the filament to withstand more heat, it will last longer, thats exactly what the 55W HIR does, whereas it was tougher to get the 65W HIR to do that
so the 65W HIR filament is slightly built up compared to the 65W
ALSO
the repeated flicking does not damage an HIR/halogen bulb, whereas it WILL blow the ballast or cause premature bulb life... an ALMOST garuntee
and sometimes flicking is a necessary way to NOT be blinded by idiots with their poorly aimed HIDs in their highbeams, or just plain idiots on the road with their highbeams (and yes ive been blinded by retard drivers in 8th gen civics)
unless u live out west with LONG open roads and travel over 120 mph, u will never need the output of 50W HIDs in your high beams, just NOT necessary
ask any light expert, especially the blue color which in turn burns part of your retina or cornea (i forget) and doesnt recover as well from the 4300k range or REDDER
this is what causes eye fatigue
and wont allow you to drive farther anyways

personally i drive on ALOT of unlit highways here in CT (ud be surprised) and the standard output from the halogen is sufficient (just barely)
so i would consider dropping a 150 bux on 6 HIR bulbs that way i have extras for most of the life of the car (how often do you REALLY use ur highbeams?)
its an investment that is sure to help your eyes
and for someone who does 25000 miles a year, it is sure worth it for me (when i have some money lol)

yes u WILL get WAY more output from 50W halogen, but most likely the kit will NOT last as long as they claim
unless of course they are made by a LARGER manufacturer (hella philips etc.)
even the good ol kits (which i mind you i will be purchasing when i do my projector retrofit) will not last more than 3-4 years
someone like me who keeps a car til it dies, wants more than that (the reason ill be buying 2 kits hahahaha)

again
HIR bulbs ARE the way to go for 90% of the individuals who want more output from their highbeams but DONT want to wait for them to warm up
THEY ARE MADE BY TOSHIBA, not some unknown company in Korea!
they WILL last as they claim to
AND they are tested by unpaid testers who LOVE them

They are currently used in Dodge vipers and John Deere ride on tractors, amongst other rare vehicles
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oh and the HIRs put only a few hundred less lumens than the HIDs (high beams are 2500 lumens, compared to a RELIABLE 35W hid kit, that is of 4300k thats 1000 less, but most of you will have 6000k which is actually putting out around 2700 lumens.... ) 50 Watt HIDs have insufficent testing so far, and while MOST produce WAY more lumens, their life expectancy is rather unknown

btw 900 lumens in a halogen is hardly 5x to make the HID lol
GOOD quality BRAND NAME hids @ 4300k produce 3200 lumens....
5x the 900 lumen output is actually 4500 lumens.... whered u get your math from? thats for a 55W halogen btw lol
at your math a halogen should only produce 640 lumens.... thats what your 40W incandescent creates..... oi veyyyyy
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oh and the HIRs put only a few hundred less lumens than the HIDs (high beams are 2500 lumens, compared to a RELIABLE 35W hid kit, that is of 4300k thats 1000 less, but most of you will have 6000k which is actually putting out around 2700 lumens.... ) 50 Watt HIDs have insufficent testing so far, and while MOST produce WAY more lumens, their life expectancy is rather unknown

btw 900 lumens in a halogen is hardly 5x to make the HID lol
GOOD quality BRAND NAME hids @ 4300k produce 3200 lumens....
5x the 900 lumen output is actually 4500 lumens.... whered u get your math from? thats for a 55W halogen btw lol
at your math a halogen should only produce 640 lumens.... thats what your 40W incandescent creates..... oi veyyyyy
got any data to back that up?
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sure type in HIR into a search engine lol
and striker, you know more than anyone what blue hids put out and what HIR bulbs can do
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:35 PM   #208 (permalink)
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my 6000k kit from HID Kits, HID Conversion Kits, Xenon HID Kits, Buy HID, German Engineered HID Kits, Parts. , i love them but cant wait to do retros.....





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Old 05-11-2008, 09:52 PM   #209 (permalink)
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Honda-Tech.com: Acura Integra: Toshiba 9012 HIR bulbs better than Silverstars. next best thing to HIDs? who has them?
S-Series.Org :: View topic - Upgrade your lighting [ready for vote] (so far the most informative ive found, still looking for the testing site i had found lol)
HIR Headlights 9011 9012 bulbs <<<< that is the EBAY vendors website, so it MIGHT be questionable to some, but seems pretty on much on the same line
http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...r-bulbs-75931/ (this guy already tried them and liked them)


i made a mistake too, the HIRs last the SAME amount of time a DOT spec 9005/9006 will last respectively, 350/875
thats DOT spec tho, depending on how Toshiba manufactures them (and John Deere representatives say their 9012 lasts over 1500 hours lol)

The death of HID = HIR ? - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum
still looking for the BMW club one tho lets seee
The Light Bulb Saga

ok looks like the original bmw club one i saw about 11 months ago has shut down :-(
most of the information was taken from that site and spread out to these sites, but i can only hope the dude who posted on their has his thing archived somewhere and someone can find it
he tested 5 bulbs if i remember correctly
a standard 9006, a ge nighthawk, both versions of the silverstar, and the HIR
he did the same for the the 9005 (high beam for those who are confused)


the HIR outperformed all of the bulbs, with the GE nighhawk slightly above the standard 9006, but not in the case of the 9005, the HIR killed the competition with the standard in second and the rest fallen behind

ANYONE who has used silverstars for a few months knows how flakey they are, anyone who uses HIRs know how great they are
im ordering mine in a week or two, when i get them i will show pictures for you

SOME EVIDENCE according to one website shows that they MIGHT not last as long as the standard halogen, but they had no way to prove that either lol
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:07 PM   #210 (permalink)
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this is my hid's..








this last picture...it is too my left when i'm driving, it goes so high, to fix this, do i adjust it w/ the headlights area for aiming?
or is it ok?
its 6000k on my stock headlights

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..:: K1VRA - Halogen Infrared Reflecting Headlamps ::..

they keep on comming lol

im finding more morons who are claiming silverstars are an upgrade tho... those things are such pieces of junk its not funny, maybe the european ones are good, but the american ones are just like blue bulbs....
besides, blue is bad for the eyes
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:59 AM   #212 (permalink)
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