My Civics HID DIY Installation

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[2RotorMotor]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

There was a guy on another forum where his ballast went poop drawing 40 amps. He kept blowing his relay but then someone told him to hook it up directly to the oem female 9006 connector because he said "OMFG our cars are designed to withstand the current u dont need a relay you're dumb for the 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th time u dont need it dont be dumb" and guess what? He fried his stock harness. Later after some testing his ballast was drawing 40amps.
A relay harness is not necessary but for safety precautions it is highly recommended.

fake story... I have had my hid's directly connected for 1 year, no problems so far. I'll believe him blowing a fuse, but not frying the harness...LOL

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by 2RotorMotor

fake story... I have had my hid's directly connected for 1 year, no problems so far. I'll believe him blowing a fuse, but not frying the harness...LOL

Go buy a damaged ballast on ebay(5 bucks) and fire it up with your stock harness...
Then we'll see who is "lying" here.

Edit: I shall not be held accountable and responsable for the stupidity of others. Therefore, if damage might occur, I shall not be billed! =]

[Orient Express]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

Go buy a damaged ballast on ebay(5 bucks) and fire it up with your stock harness...
Then we'll see who is "lying" here.

Well, that is a certainly a juvenile approach to this issue. Being erroneous is not the same as lying, but even in the example above, a damaged ballast, would simply pop the inline fuse for that lighting circuit.

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by Orient Express

Well, that is a certainly a juvenile approach to this issue. Being erroneous is not the same as lying, but even in the example above, a damaged ballast, would simply pop the inline fuse for that lighting circuit.

it's not a juvenile but something that would be seen as an experiment.
Juvenile would be calling you an idiot and what not which is what i didnt. You're accussing me of lying for something i saw firsthand. But whatevr floats your boat man.

[2RotorMotor]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

Go buy a damaged ballast on ebay(5 bucks) and fire it up with your stock harness...
Then we'll see who is "lying" here.

Edit: I shall not be held accountable and responsable for the stupidity of others. Therefore, if damage might occur, I shall not be billed! =]

I had a damaged ballast it just turned off..

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by 2RotorMotor

I had a damaged ballast it just turned off..

...that was drawing a higher amperage? if not then hush please

[Orient Express]

Striker_1818, you sound like you feel very strongly about your statements. It would be great if you would conduct an experiment on the results of a failed HID ballast on the supply wiring of an 8th Generation Civic.

It appears that your hypothesis is that a failed ballast will cause cause damage to a cars wiring harness. Generally, your hypothesis seems to be the minority opinion because of the facts presented in earlier posts.

However anyone can be wrong, so perhaps you would want to propose a testing environment that will validate your position. Include what data you plan to gather, how you will gather the data, and then conduct the experiment and post the results.

Until you can objectively demonstrate your claims rather than base them on heresy, then they are just conjecture.

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by Orient Express

Striker_1818, you sound like you feel very strongly about your statements. It would be great if you would conduct an experiment on the results of a failed HID ballast on the supply wiring of an 8th Generation Civic.

It appears that your hypothesis is that a failed ballast will cause cause damage to a cars wiring harness. Generally, your hypothesis seems to be the minority opinion because of the facts presented in earlier posts.

However anyone can be wrong, so perhaps you would want to propose a testing environment that will validate your position. Include what data you plan to gather, how you will gather the data, and then conduct the experiment and post the results.

Until you can objectively demonstrate your claims rather than base them on heresy, then they are just conjecture.

Same facts apply to your statement as well. As I said before, this guy 06 corolla tried so. They use the same 9005 for hi's and 9006 for low's. One of his ballast was drawing 40+ amps and the relay kept popping.

[2RotorMotor]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

...that was drawing a higher amperage? if not then hush please

hush?? Lol. W.e. guy... First of all I dunno what ballasts you are using, but normal ballasts turn off when there is a malfunction. They wont even run if you switch the power cables. 2nd, the fuses should blow if there is drawing more current.

[bobbo]

Originally Posted by Orient Express

Well, that is a certainly a juvenile approach to this issue. Being erroneous is not the same as lying, but even in the example above, a damaged ballast, would simply pop the inline fuse for that lighting circuit.

It's obvious striker likes to be an antagonist. Just ignore him if he irritates you. I assure you he enjoys being pompous as much as he enjoys elliciting responses from you. Being a real pain is sometimes satisfying. Gotta get your happiness from somewhere.

[torneo78]

OE: I ended buying a kit from the same seller as you but my install was not as smooth. The bulbs refused to go into the headlight socket. After examining the bulb I noticed that the base around the bulb where the o-ring is what was way too tall. I used a dremel to cut about 1/2" from the top of the base and I was finally able to install the bulb smoothly (I did clean the bulbs before installing ). Otherwise the kit was great for the price and the light output is great and the cutoff is similar to the pciture you posted. Thanks for posting...you saved me a lot of money.


PS: Loved the "Produce Introduce" instructions

[HondaFREAK]

Striker, Orient you guys still at it? you guys both have conflicting information...some maybe true at both ends..but in the end if you go the plug into stock harness route, that's your choice, if you use a relay kit, that's your choice. In the end it boils down to personal choice. Some would rather use the relay like myself because it gives me a peace of mind...others use the stock harness because it cuts down on the wiring one must do.

But IMO we're all 8th gen fanatics...and should be civil to each other...constructive criticism not crushing each other with insults.

But to everyone his own...that's the beauty of having a personality...you're allowed to have different opinions..but be considerate of other's opinions even if you don't agree.

[Orient Express]

Originally Posted by torneo78

OE: I ended buying a kit from the same seller as you but my install was not as smooth. The bulbs refused to go into the headlight socket. After examining the bulb I noticed that the base around the bulb where the o-ring is what was way too tall.

torneo78:
Glad to hear that you are having good luck with your lamps. Your issue with the bulb not locking in easily is something that I encountered as well. The bulb base has extremely tight tolerances, and is difficult to get it fully seated. I found that simply lubricating the bulb base with silicone lubricant and using a flat bladed jewelers screwdriver the push the bulb in the last few millimeters to get past the latch did the trick.

Lastly, to everyone reading this thread, I want to reemphasize that my stand on the Relay harness not being necessary is not an opinion but is rather based on hard facts. My goal in contributing to this discussion is to provide some tangible facts.

The challenge facing those who are looking for advice on this issue is that because most of the retrofit kits come with a harness, the logic is that it must be used. Remember the kits are universal retrofit kits and in some vehicle retrofits the harness is useful, particularly for pre-2000 model cars.

However again I must stress that the 8th generation Civic's headlight wiring is the same for both HID and non-HID cars in all markets, and utilizes a relay circuit for switching, has the same gauge wire as a retrofit relay harness has, and is fused on each circuit leg as well as the main circuit. Every 8th gen Civic owner has a HID-ready car already, no extra wiring necessary!

[skippy911]

My hid cutoff is not nearly as good as your PNP kit. Is there a difference in the bulbs b/t kits? I have quite a few flares above my cutoff line. I will try to get a picture tonight to show what I am talking about. TIA :)

[Yodums]

You might want to try taking a stab at re-aiming your headlights. I'm using the same kit as Orient_Express and I had to re-aim my headlights to get a cut off similar to his.

[skippy911]

Originally Posted by Yodums

You might want to try taking a stab at re-aiming your headlights. I'm using the same kit as Orient_Express and I had to re-aim my headlights to get a cut off similar to his.

I was thinking to try that tonight. Thanks :)

[sk8ter4life]

good DIY!

[MAXIMKA]

du u have to do something with your day time runing lights or no in order to hav hid's

[Liu]

Your daytime running lights have nothing to do with your hid's, your hid's are replacing your lowbeams, your daytime running lights are your highbeams.