My Civics HID DIY Installation

[GETxERxDONE]

Originally Posted by asndragonboii

I agree with not being able to post ebay links but I do not agree with not being able to mention the ebay seller's name.

i agree, but the links were just to point them in the right direction, so they didnt buy the wrong thing. and if it wasnt for people posting ebay links, i wouldnt have just bought some used fog lights so i can retro them.

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by tda1337

ok lets put it this way
this is a forum, where people who are not vendors are aloud to discuss various items and such
seeing that even tho part of the forum is payed for by vendors, part of it is also paid for by VIPs. In this case its not a billboard, while there is a section with a billboard, a list of the vendors and random ads by vendors, including google and ebay ads
Thus being the case, a person who is NOT a vendor should be aloud the ability to post what he thinks about product a vs b, and give people information so they can research it themselves, otherwise its not a free market
and lowes and home depot is a good point
just like college hills vs schaller, at one place u get excellent customer service, at the other you get "WE ARE THE ONLY ONE IN EXISTENCE" that attitude destroys reputation and turns people off to the business.
Now if this was a billboard, i wouldnt be allowed to post nething at all except praises about a vendors who sponsors the sites product
since its not, i do have freedom of speech to disagree with what we are being told
im not part of HIDplanet, because it is a business first, whereas this is a forum first, funded by MULTIPLE business, AND people who are not a business but their own entity
it is then that there is no way you can compare a place like this to a billboard, unlike comparing HIDplanet to a billboard
freedom of speech is the reason i left honda-tech.com, there was no freedom, unless you were bashing other people, then it was perfectly ok, cause there was no moderation, and lots of people who neglect their regular lives to spend their days on the forum lol
many forums have different rules, and so far the only ones i disagree with here is the inability to post nething not honda civic related (EVEN if its for trade towards a honda part.... kinda weird) and the moderators imposing the rule that we cant post links to products that their sponsors did not approve....
personally, i dont believe thats a great way to run a forum, and while i am unaware of how much it costs to sponsor as a business, im sure that this forum was begun originally to HELP people with their vehicles, not create turmoil and steer people towards a single product because that company payed.....
doesnt that undermine freedom?

When go to the Message Board section, you will see a section called "Lighting, HID's & Neon" sponsored by "XenonDepot". As a result, they have more rights than you do.
You are right in that we all should help each other and steer people in the right direction. However, this same kit in question is the same as any other kit that is cheaper and with good results. So, about your comment about "...I'm sure that this forum was begun originally to HELP people with their vehicles, not create turmoil and steer people towards a single product..." that is what you, others and the OP have been doing. Steer people towards a single product when there are vast more ebay kits with positive results.
Again, this site is a business first. Then, it's a forum. It is a prividlege to sell in this website, not a right(hence the rules). Vendors have a right to sell and advertise
Anyways it is good to help people and steer them to a positive path to a good buy/fix for their car. However, ebay links are a no-no.
You can always tell them the name of the ebayer and where he's from. That IS allowed. You guys are making a big deal out of nothing.
Check ebay again and you will see more kits look alike for cheaper. I too bought from the dude from the OP and no worries for 6 months until both stopped working but customer service was awesome

[Liu]

Originally Posted by giantquesadilla

Same. I see it as recommending a good store to your friends.

Well, giving the name to a good store online is really no different than actually giving someone a link to the store is it? I mean, it's like telling someone about a store and make them look it up, or just give them the phone number to the store, seems kind of stupid. I guess the line has to be drawn somewhere, and this forum doesn't allow any public recommendations other than their sponsors, that's where the line is.

Originally Posted by striker_1818

You can always tell them the name of the ebayer and where he's from. That IS allowed.

That's not entirely true, unless you're talking about PM's. The word "kass abian" and "k light" without the spaces are being filtered, try it. So no, it ISN'T allowed.

[shukev]

what's the volt and watt that i need to get for the ballasts?

[Andrei'sCivic]

This is a great DIY on HID install. I also like how you came back and updated it, letting us know how the lights are holding up.

-I'm surprised however that you and some other people expected the HID's to run hotter. They are like the flourescent lights in your class rooms and in your kitchens. You can actually grab a flourescent light bulb, incadescent good luck.
The fact that they are flourescent and running only 35W I expected them to run cooler, so should you guys. To be honest I was expecting and hoping the HID's would run even cooler. Not just 5 degrees cooler.

[Gsnake]

So if there are any problems with the kit do we have to pay the shipping back and forth?

[asndragonboii]

Originally Posted by Andrei'sCivic

This is a great DIY on HID install. I also like how you came back and updated it, letting us know how the lights are holding up.

-I'm surprised however that you and some other people expected the HID's to run hotter. They are like the flourescent lights in your class rooms and in your kitchens. You can actually grab a flourescent light bulb, incadescent good luck.
The fact that they are flourescent and running only 35W I expected them to run cooler, so should you guys. To be honest I was expecting and hoping the HID's would run even cooler. Not just 5 degrees cooler.

If the HIDs were the same brightness as the halogens, then it would probably be alot cooler. Since the HIDS are alot brighter, the temperature goes up

[Firestrife]

Originally Posted by asndragonboii

If the HIDs were the same brightness as the halogens, then it would probably be alot cooler. Since the HIDS are alot brighter, the temperature goes up

You did not read the first post in this long thread have you...

[asndragonboii]

Originally Posted by Firestrife

You did not read the first post in this long thread have you...

I read it a year ago. What did i forget?

[shukev]

that the picture shows the HID being cooler.

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by Gsnake

So if there are any problems with the kit do we have to pay the shipping back and forth?

Only to ship it back which should cost around 35 bucks

[JeShUa]

My guy was a snake and never shipped me back a new one.. flashplus.. if you go hid route.. dont buy from him.

[GETxERxDONE]

Originally Posted by Andrei'sCivic

This is a great DIY on HID install. I also like how you came back and updated it, letting us know how the lights are holding up.

-I'm surprised however that you and some other people expected the HID's to run hotter. They are like the flourescent lights in your class rooms and in your kitchens. You can actually grab a flourescent light bulb, incadescent good luck.
The fact that they are flourescent and running only 35W I expected them to run cooler, so should you guys. To be honest I was expecting and hoping the HID's would run even cooler. Not just 5 degrees cooler.

thats what i said a long time ago.

[Andrei'sCivic]

Originally Posted by asndragonboii

If the HIDs were the same brightness as the halogens, then it would probably be alot cooler. Since the HIDS are alot brighter, the temperature goes up

The HIDs he has are running 35W compared to stock 51W. If the HID's were just as bright and put out the same light output they can do that at probably 20W. Still common just 5 degrees. I did give an example between those long fluorescent light bulbs and the icadescent bulbs, big difference in temps.

I just figured they would run a little cooler like his results showed if they both ran the same Wattage; 51W vs. 51W.

Anyway its an improvement overstock.

[Gsnake]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

Only to ship it back which should cost around 35 bucks

Thx that's not bad at all.

[Orient Express]

Do not use the 50W kits with stock wiring. The reason is that the 50 watt kits have a huge startup current draw, and will overwhelm your stock wiring. If you insist on using a 50 watt kit, then they must be used with an auxiliary relay wiring harness.

The best bet is to stick with the 35 watt kits.

[galaxygraysi]

so i have the mccullogh hid kit is it the same process?

[tda1337]

yea its the same process
its getting entertaining to watch people ask the same questions over again without going thru the thread lol
its only 32 pages, thats like an hour or 2 of work for ALL the answers u can ever want
Hey ORIENT! why not post one more update for everyone and a summary of the questions in your main section

[tbates00]

Acting like a kid at XMas, I got my package today from the Far East and immediately unwrapped it to see what Santa (and my checking account) had brought me. The kit looks pretty similar to what OE shows on the first page of this DIY, but mine has a couple of 'extra' wires on the harness that's going to the HID bulb...they start in an OEM looking female plug, go thru what looks to be a rubber gasket (the wires are encased in the back-end of the gasket to make a water-proof seal if you were actually using it which I'm assuming you don't) and end in a connector on the bulb side that looks like a male OEM connector. The wire colors are blue and black. By the way, the gasket is going to make getting the bottom section of the protective cap off the harness somewhat interesting...trying to keep fingers off the bulb while squeezing the rubber gasket thru the bottom of the protective cap...

Anyone else get this configuration? I haven't opened up the car yet - I figured it was better to ask before performing surgery. Can I just get out the wire snips and 'terminate' the blue/black wires at the rubber gasket???

Appreciate comments/thoughts...

[Gsnake]

Just got mine today in the mail today, i wondering about those cables too.