My Civics HID DIY Installation

[Bandit03]

i got my dome lights from superbrightleds.com , as far as those go there is already a DIY i dunno what other lights there are to replace as far as the interior goes? How To: LED Festoon map lights

[tda1337]

OH i ment exterior and interior, they make it more confusing than it has to be so i want to make it more clear as to where and what is available!

[CDRoot]

Originally Posted by Bandit03

i actually had 10000k bulbs before and they were a deep bluish purple, they had horrible output however every sign and reflector did light up, same now with my 6000k, way better output but not really impressed compared to stock so i may go lower

How are you NOT impressed with the 6000K? They provide 5x more light than my stock bulbs! U must be crazy! lol.

[Bandit03]

haha i dont know i mean they are definetly way better than stock, but they just dont do much for me, i feel like with stock i could see much further down the road, i guess i just had high expectations so i may go to 5000k or 4300k

[tda1337]

which makes sense, less light output, im gonna go with 6000k cause its still gonna be plenty more output than halogens, so meh

[CDRoot]

"haha i dont know i mean they are definetly way better than stock, but they just dont do much for me, i feel like with stock i could see much further down the road, i guess i just had high expectations so i may go to 5000k or 4300k"

Maybe you should adjust the headlights so they project farther.

[Bandit03]

i honestly have no idea how to do that and i dont wanna mess anything up or aim them too high and have to deal with the cops

[tda1337]

i honestly wouldnt bother, because they should be already aligned, have a shop do it if it needs it

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by tda1337

any website u go to will have their own specs, each company has different specs because their bulbs and ballasts are fidderent

actually they make up specs for sales. Same way they show their 4,300K to have 3,400 lumens when an 85122+ which is rated at 4,200K will give you twice as much light as their 4,300K. I don't want to see charts. I want detailed information

Originally Posted by Bandit03

yea but i mean i saw an audi SUV the other day and his lights were so bright i couldnt even see the frickin road in front of me and i know for a fact that they are stock like that so theres no way a cop could single me out, i havent had any flashes to this day but im just sayin

its easy to spot pnp kits vs oem

[tda1337]

Originally Posted by striker_1818

actually they make up specs for sales. Same way they show their 4,300K to have 3,400 lumens when an 85122+ which is rated at 4,200K will give you twice as much light as their 4,300K. I don't want to see charts. I want detailed information

um so do i , show me where u got that info from lol
cause not too many companies i know of make 4200kelvin bulbs lol
a) every bulb and ballast is different and they make up spec sheets based on simple tests with simple machines or equations
b) some ballasts use 18,000Vs some use 25,000 volts, why would u thing a ballast and bulb at 18,000volts with a color temp of 4300k would have the same lightoutput as the 25,000 volt ballast/bulb with 4300 kelvin temp? The noble gases used are also VERY different! its like LEDs man, there are Nichia, Luxeon and cree, but they all do very different chemicals to get to their final result (fyi they are named after their inventories)
The light out put depends on many variables:
1) Voltage
2) Wattage
3) resistance
4) chemicals!!!! (most important, this includes noble gases)
5) glass properties
6) electrode properties

If you can show me, some testing sheet, that shows that an 8000 kelvin bulb from the same manufacturer as a 4300kelvin bulb has more lumens... please show me
until then man... its all talk, i can show u every website thats advertising department places that its not brighter! Go to any ebay ad, go to xenondepot.com
they use ratings given to them by the manufacturer (yes they doctor up pics and etc.) but most of the times the ratings are right on!
if they lie about that stuff, law suits can happen

[bludragon06]

So I am working on the drivers side putting in the set. I finally get the bulb seated loosening the plastic peice that holds the bulb in plug everything in and I see the bulb flicker really fast and here what sounded like arcing and then light goes out. I thought I french fried the headlight wires. Found it was a fuse. Replaced the fuse unplugged everything and changed bulbs and got that arcing and flickering again. So I plugged the the bulb that I changed to and plugged it into the other ballast and bingo. Let there be light. I tried the first bulb in the good ballast and nothing. So I emailed the guy with the problem. So we will see what he says. He had great fast shipping and kept in touch very well. Lets see how customer service is. I have one side in and the halogen in on the other side. Looks really wierd.

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by tda1337

um so do i , show me where u got that info from lol
cause not too many companies i know of make 4200kelvin bulbs lol
a) every bulb and ballast is different and they make up spec sheets based on simple tests with simple machines or equations
b) some ballasts use 18,000Vs some use 25,000 volts, why would u thing a ballast and bulb at 18,000volts with a color temp of 4300k would have the same lightoutput as the 25,000 volt ballast/bulb with 4300 kelvin temp? The noble gases used are also VERY different! its like LEDs man, there are Nichia, Luxeon and cree, but they all do very different chemicals to get to their final result (fyi they are named after their inventories)
The light out put depends on many variables:
1) Voltage
2) Wattage
3) resistance
4) chemicals!!!! (most important, this includes noble gases)
5) glass properties
6) electrode properties

If you can show me, some testing sheet, that shows that an 8000 kelvin bulb from the same manufacturer as a 4300kelvin bulb has more lumens... please show me
until then man... its all talk, i can show u every website thats advertising department places that its not brighter! Go to any ebay ad, go to xenondepot.com
they use ratings given to them by the manufacturer (yes they doctor up pics and etc.) but most of the times the ratings are right on!
if they lie about that stuff, law suits can happen

I guess you really want to get pwnt:

1)
Osram Xenarc D2S rated at 4,250K bulb
Lumens: 3,200
Source? Spec sheet: Link (Page 4 and 5)


2)
Philips 85122 D2S rated at 4,100K
Lumens: 3,200
Spec-sheet:



3)
Philips Ultinions rated at 5,800K
Lumens: 2,400
Spec-sheet:



4)
General Electrics D2S HID bulb rated at 5,100K
Lumens: 2,500
Spec-sheet:



5)
General Electrics 5874 rated at 10,000K
Lumens: 1,850
Spec-sheet:


Again, retailers such as XenonDepot do not test the bulbs so their website based charts are way off.

[tda1337]

oh i was under the understandment that u thought the2500k estimate was too little lol oi vey

[ment]

basing on what i read everywhere ....

4300K is OEM color for the likes of BMW and gives more lumens ....

3000K very yellowish and best for off roads..... wont do well with street lights

6000K white to bluish ..... balance of function and "fashion" hehehe. But for city use this may also work nicely (well i think)

just had a 3000K HID installed in my civic .... am loving them since they reflect nicely on asphalt roads ..... and without adjusting the headllight assy. alignment yet oncoming cars seems not affected with the light ....





my only gripe is that the right side seems to be poorly illuminated. must be the alignment ......

[Orient Express]

3000K bulbs may get you stopped by your local law enforcement. Yellow colored headlamps are illegal in most states for on-road use.

[jackolee]

okay so Izzy was talking about if i dont have the hid harness installed and if blow my lights all the wires will get blown so i got worried and installed the harnesses i got with the kit while i did my foglights

and after i did so i sat in the car turned on the lights they were all good just like before
but when i turned them off i heard this click sound like the sound of a spark or something

can someone tell me what that is?

[tda1337]

um, sounds like a short, or the fuse blew lol
u screwed something up lol
this is why orient and me both say not to use the relay harness (the wires on the civic are thick enough to handle the load, in fact they are fused the same)

[striker_1818]

Originally Posted by tda1337

um, sounds like a short, or the fuse blew lol
u screwed something up lol
this is why orient and me both say not to use the relay harness (the wires on the civic are thick enough to handle the load, in fact they are fused the same)

6.5ft 18ga

[jackolee]

.....it works tho....so does that mean something still blew???
ugh dammit i dont feel like taking off the bumper again... grrr....
so your saying th stock wires are good enough???
grrrr i guess ill take it out while im at work or something.... grrr..

Originally Posted by striker_1818

6.5ft 18ga

what??? i dont understand what your saying sorry

[striker_1818]

Here is what i discovered.
The length of our wiring for the 9006 is a long 6'-6"(6.5 ft) 18 gauge wire.
This is for reference to you: 100 watts = 16 amps.

And here is what you should know. What type of current and wiring gauge can handle what: