The HID Lighting Tutorial - Page 2

Orient Express · 04-17-2008, 10:23 PM

Hi-beam HIDs?

Yuck!

The high reflector on the Civic is completely the wrong design for a light that is as bright as a HID lamp.

The only HID high beam that makes sense and is a good design are Bi-Xenon projector lights.

tda1337 · 04-18-2008, 03:09 PM

go with HIR lights (plug and play light bulbs only) for the high beams
youll never be happier 2x the output :-P
im gonna do that soon

***splew*** · 04-26-2008, 03:36 PM

Does anyone know of any conversion kits that use d2r style bulbs? From reading that article it seems that the reason pnp kits produce so much glare is that they use d2s style bulbs which are designed for use in projectors instead of d2r style bulbs which are designed for use in parabolic style reflectors (like the oem headlights on our cars). So i'm guessing that a pnp kit using d2r style bulbs wouldn't produce much more glare than a retrofit. What do you guys think?

***splew*** · 04-27-2008, 06:40 PM

Hello? Anyone? Is this thread dead or something?

**Tim** · 04-27-2008, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splew

Hello? Anyone? Is this thread dead or something?

Regarding the use of D2R bulbs vs. D2S bulbs in reflector housings not already designed for the job:

Quote:

Originally Posted by si_civic

That is a common misconception.

Excerpt from an HID professional:

In terms of D2S or D2R, [our - xenondepot] HID conversion kits use a D2S bulb. We have done various experimentation over the past year and for a retrofit application or OE application out side of Europe the D2R bulb is not required. The stripe on the D2R lamps helps hide the salts which would appear as parasitic images in the light dark transition area of the European Assymetric dip pattern. On a retrofit or DOT beam pattern (Your headlight) you do not have this light dark transition requirement therefore the D2S bulb is just fine for any application.

***splew*** · 04-29-2008, 11:39 AM

Thanks.

FirefighterI · 05-03-2008, 09:23 PM

I am wanting to put HID lighting in my 08 civic si coupe. I have been doing some reading and now have mixed feelings. are all plug and play kits crap and not worth buying unless you are going to do the retro fit to projectors? I just want to spend a couple hundred bucks on some lights that are going to look cool and work fairly well. Any input would be great. If anyone has used a HID kit that they like please let me know

***splew*** · 05-04-2008, 02:17 PM

Yeah I want to get a pnp kit too but it seems like everyone who has a pnp kit says they work just fine but everyone who has a retro says that pnp kits are s**t and you should get a retro. I've seen pnp kits on other cars and they look fine with only slightly more glare than stock but way more light on the road. From the ones I've seen as long as you get a 4300K pnp kit it looks just like any other car with factory hids but the ones with 6000K,8000K,10000K, and 12000K just look nasty and glaring. If you want the most possible light on the road and the least possible glare then get a retro. Keep in mind though BOTH pnp kits and retros are ILLEGAL.

FirefighterI · 05-04-2008, 04:50 PM

every HID kit is illegal? they or only if you go higher then 4300k? I was thinking of going like 6000k

***kobel4k3r5*** · 05-13-2008, 04:38 PM

nice post and link! +1

***splew*** · 05-13-2008, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirefighterI

every HID kit is illegal? they or only if you go higher then 4300k? I was thinking of going like 6000k

Plug and play kits are illegal for use on the road. Retros are also technically illegal because it is illegal to modify your OEM headlights. I saw both of these elsewhere on this forum and I would give you the link but I'm too lazy to track then down.

WildHP240 · 07-13-2008, 08:40 PM

Ok... So I read this whole thing... now here are my questions

1) What is the brightest/most "blue" in appearance bulb that Phillips or that other company makes? I read the part about how BMW and Audi uses curvature to make it appear blue, but then again, a different light temp makes it appear blue too... So I want a blue appearance, yet not go to the 8000k ebay specail.

2) What is the best website to buy HIDs from?

3) I've seen where I can buy a 50W HID kit for around $50? $75? more... is that worth it? Anything about 35W isn't legal, is it? I live in MN and get paranoid when driving on country roads, I want to see a long ways out! If the lower color temps don't create as much glare, how bad would it be for on-coming traffic to look @ a 50W?

Thanks

Jerod

RageOn · 07-14-2008, 12:15 PM

So to achieve a nice clean white/clear production of light will 9006HID 4000k is the ticket?
That's what I seem to be reading but with typical inform on the net the water gets a little muddy.

PIAA: 9006 XTREME WHITE PLUS BULBS (19616) [4000K]*::**HEADLIGHT* [TYPE 2: HIGH PERFORMANCE]*::*HEADLIGHTS, FOGLIGHTS & DRIVING LIGHT REPLACEMENT UPGRADE BULBS*::*BULBS!!*::*Bulbs Foglights Neon & Lights*::*AUTOTOYS

CIVICe · 08-04-2008, 02:20 PM

This thread is awesome. Everyone who reads from here will learn a lot, like me and many others...

By the way, I'm waiting for someone to aswer the last questions, I want more!

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04-17-2008, 10:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
Orient Express Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 284 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hi-beam HIDs? Yuck! The high reflector on the Civic is completely the wrong design for a light that is as bright as a HID lamp. The only HID high beam that makes sense and is a good design are Bi-Xenon projector lights.

04-18-2008, 03:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
tda1337 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 670 Rick iTrader: 0 / 0%	go with HIR lights (plug and play light bulbs only) for the high beams youll never be happier 2x the output :-P im gonna do that soon

04-26-2008, 03:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
*splew* Posting While Awesome Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville,FL Age: 19 Posts: 3,403 Windex iTrader: 0 / 0%	Does anyone know of any conversion kits that use d2r style bulbs? From reading that article it seems that the reason pnp kits produce so much glare is that they use d2s style bulbs which are designed for use in projectors instead of d2r style bulbs which are designed for use in parabolic style reflectors (like the oem headlights on our cars). So i'm guessing that a pnp kit using d2r style bulbs wouldn't produce much more glare than a retrofit. What do you guys think?

04-27-2008, 06:40 PM	#24 (permalink)
*splew* Posting While Awesome Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville,FL Age: 19 Posts: 3,403 Windex iTrader: 0 / 0%	Hello? Anyone? Is this thread dead or something?

04-29-2008, 11:39 AM	#26 (permalink)
*splew* Posting While Awesome Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville,FL Age: 19 Posts: 3,403 Windex iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks.

05-03-2008, 09:23 PM	#27 (permalink)
FirefighterI Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I am wanting to put HID lighting in my 08 civic si coupe. I have been doing some reading and now have mixed feelings. are all plug and play kits crap and not worth buying unless you are going to do the retro fit to projectors? I just want to spend a couple hundred bucks on some lights that are going to look cool and work fairly well. Any input would be great. If anyone has used a HID kit that they like please let me know

05-04-2008, 02:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
*splew* Posting While Awesome Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jacksonville,FL Age: 19 Posts: 3,403 Windex iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah I want to get a pnp kit too but it seems like everyone who has a pnp kit says they work just fine but everyone who has a retro says that pnp kits are s**t and you should get a retro. I've seen pnp kits on other cars and they look fine with only slightly more glare than stock but way more light on the road. From the ones I've seen as long as you get a 4300K pnp kit it looks just like any other car with factory hids but the ones with 6000K,8000K,10000K, and 12000K just look nasty and glaring. If you want the most possible light on the road and the least possible glare then get a retro. Keep in mind though BOTH pnp kits and retros are ILLEGAL.

05-04-2008, 04:50 PM	#29 (permalink)
FirefighterI Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0%	every HID kit is illegal? they or only if you go higher then 4300k? I was thinking of going like 6000k

05-13-2008, 04:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
*kobel4k3r5* EF-AY-FEYE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northridge Posts: 2,292 Vu iTrader: 1 / 100%	nice post and link! +1

07-13-2008, 08:40 PM	#32 (permalink)
WildHP240 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moorhead, MN Age: 19 Posts: 1 Jerod iTrader: 0 / 0%	Ok... So I read this whole thing... now here are my questions 1) What is the brightest/most "blue" in appearance bulb that Phillips or that other company makes? I read the part about how BMW and Audi uses curvature to make it appear blue, but then again, a different light temp makes it appear blue too... So I want a blue appearance, yet not go to the 8000k ebay specail. 2) What is the best website to buy HIDs from? 3) I've seen where I can buy a 50W HID kit for around $50? $75? more... is that worth it? Anything about 35W isn't legal, is it? I live in MN and get paranoid when driving on country roads, I want to see a long ways out! If the lower color temps don't create as much glare, how bad would it be for on-coming traffic to look @ a 50W? Thanks Jerod

07-14-2008, 12:15 PM	#33 (permalink)
RageOn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wartown GA Age: 28 Posts: 209 Chris iTrader: 0 / 0%	So to achieve a nice clean white/clear production of light will 9006HID 4000k is the ticket? That's what I seem to be reading but with typical inform on the net the water gets a little muddy. PIAA: 9006 XTREME WHITE PLUS BULBS (19616) [4000K]::HEADLIGHT [TYPE 2: HIGH PERFORMANCE]::HEADLIGHTS, FOGLIGHTS & DRIVING LIGHT REPLACEMENT UPGRADE BULBS::BULBS!!::Bulbs Foglights Neon & Lights::AUTOTOYS

08-04-2008, 02:20 PM	#34 (permalink)
CIVICe Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0%	This thread is awesome. Everyone who reads from here will learn a lot, like me and many others... By the way, I'm waiting for someone to aswer the last questions, I want more!