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Old 08-04-2009, 01:26 PM   #361 (permalink)
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some tb spacers have a hole for NAWZ
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:27 PM   #362 (permalink)
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The hold in the TB spacer is horrible. You are not supposed to spray after the MAF because there is unmetered air and that's no good.

I believe it really has to be before the MAF.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:30 PM   #363 (permalink)
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does anyone know if this intake will have vanes?
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:32 PM   #364 (permalink)
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well,I guess you could make a small hole in the top of the filter and spray directly in from there.Otherwise it may be a sign to get off the happy gas.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:34 PM   #365 (permalink)
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does anyone know if this intake will have vanes?
yes it does
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:58 PM   #366 (permalink)
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C.A.R.B. certification? In the future? lol wishful thinking.
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:20 PM   #367 (permalink)
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This thread is starting to remind me of all the X-Intake bandwagon folks and we saw how that turned out. I am going to wait for results.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:00 PM   #368 (permalink)
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Well,the "X-intake" was successful in it's time and the only reason there was any problem at all was shady business practise,not a bad design....anyways..back on topic.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:49 PM   #369 (permalink)
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Well,the "X-intake" was successful in it's time and the only reason there was any problem at all was shady business practise,not a bad design....anyways..back on topic.
I am not implying the design was bad. You are missing the point. Even though the X-Intake "worked" it did not work as well as everyone was advertising. That is exactly what this thread consists of. Everyone jumps the gun on the hype without seeing proof. I am not saying the password jdm intake is going to be bad. I am just saying... last time people jumped on the intake bandwagon hype the results did not turn out nearly as good as hyped up to be.

I am willing to bet the gains for this intake will be comparable to any other quality cold air intake. And... I never went off topic. I am still talking about the password jdm intake. I am just saying its not wise to jump the gun saying this intake is going to be a godsend when there has been no testing so far.

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Old 08-04-2009, 03:57 PM   #370 (permalink)
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I am not implying the design was bad. You are missing the point. Even though the X-Intake "worked" it did not work as well as everyone was advertising. That is exactly what this thread consists of. Everyone jumps the gun on the hype without seeing proof. I am not saying the password jdm intake is going to be bad. I am just saying... last time people jumped on the intake bandwagon hype the results did not turn out nearly as good as hyped up to be.

I am willing to bet the gains for this intake will be comparable to any other quality cold air intake. And... I never went off topic. I am still talking about the password jdm intake. I am just saying its not wise to jump the gun saying this intake is going to be a godsend when there has been no testing so far.
PasswordJDM isn't one guy in Cali that was experimenting with his intake... it's a widely known company, but I get what your saying.

See what you said... "I am willing to bet the gains for this intake will be comparable to any other quality cold air intake." Exactly! Performance without compromise... no hydrolock, great design, high quality... what else can you ask for?
Even if it performances on par with all CAI that is still amzing considering it's not running a long tube to the ground where the cold air is lol. But again, I do see your point.
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I am not implying the design was bad. You are missing the point. Even though the X-Intake "worked" it did not work as well as everyone was advertising. That is exactly what this thread consists of. Everyone jumps the gun on the hype without seeing proof. I am not saying the password jdm intake is going to be bad. I am just saying... last time people jumped on the intake bandwagon hype the results did not turn out nearly as good as hyped up to be.

I am willing to bet the gains for this intake will be comparable to any other quality cold air intake. And... I never went off topic. I am still talking about the password jdm intake. I am just saying its not wise to jump the gun saying this intake is going to be a godsend when there has been no testing so far.
The X-Factor intake worked quite well. As with any product, there are always some people who have issues. Goes for headers, cat-backs, intakes and other bolt on parts. Doesn't mean the product is not performing well. Just means that some people have issues.

I don't see anyone "jumping the bandwagon". This is an overstatement. Based on the design of the intake, it certainly has potential. Out of curiosity, what is your idea of a "godsend" regarding intakes? What intake out there not only performs well, but has no drawbacks? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:37 PM   #372 (permalink)
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I want an intake that makes my car poop ice cubes out the exhaust...but I'll take the PowerChamber in the meantime.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:46 PM   #373 (permalink)
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The X-Factor intake worked quite well. As with any product, there are always some people who have issues. Goes for headers, cat-backs, intakes and other bolt on parts. Doesn't mean the product is not performing well. Just means that some people have issues.

I don't see anyone "jumping the bandwagon". This is an overstatement. Based on the design of the intake, it certainly has potential. Out of curiosity, what is your idea of a "godsend" regarding intakes? What intake out there not only performs well, but has no drawbacks? Enquiring minds want to know.
I see a lot of people jumping the bandwagon. Just read through this thread. I mean to each his own. It just seems like history repeating itself. I am not saying this intake is going to suck nor am I saying it is going to blow everything else out of the water. I am simply saying we need to see tests (whether it be 1/4 mile, dyno, etc.).

I do not believe there is a "godsend" when it comes to intakes for our car. Honda has given us a pretty well tuned car from the factory, and the factory intake is designed nicely. This is why no intake has given significant gains without some kind of tuning mechanism (flashpro, cobb ap, etc). When it comes to intakes for cars there is a "point of diminishing returns" there is only so much power a specific car can make from a bolt-on intake.

So ultimately I am predicting this intake will be a benefit for those who are looking for a balance between a cold-air and a short ram intake. With this intake people will not have to fear hydrolocking as much as they would with a cai. I am willing to bet that the power improvement will be equal to or less than that of a cold air intake.

And also... I never said the x-intake was a bad intake I simply said it is not what everyone blew it up to be.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:50 PM   #374 (permalink)
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So ultimately I am predicting this intake will be a benefit for those who are looking for a balance between a cold-air and a short ram intake. With this intake people will not have to fear hydrolocking as much as they would with a cai. I am willing to bet that the power improvement will be equal to or less than that of a cold air intake.
this is exactly what i was thinking and exactly why i preordered the kit to replace my current sri.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:55 PM   #375 (permalink)
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this is exactly what i was thinking and exactly why i preordered the kit to replace my current sri.
And thats awesome! It looks like a really great intake. I just think in terms of power it will be comparable to any other intakes. In terms of practicality I believe it will benefit many because of no fear of hydrolocking.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:14 PM   #376 (permalink)
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I see a lot of people jumping the bandwagon. Just read through this thread. I mean to each his own. It just seems like history repeating itself. I am not saying this intake is going to suck nor am I saying it is going to blow everything else out of the water. I am simply saying we need to see tests (whether it be 1/4 mile, dyno, etc.).

I do not believe there is a "godsend" when it comes to intakes for our car. Honda has given us a pretty well tuned car from the factory, and the factory intake is designed nicely. This is why no intake has given significant gains without some kind of tuning mechanism (flashpro, cobb ap, etc). When it comes to intakes for cars there is a "point of diminishing returns" there is only so much power a specific car can make from a bolt-on intake.

So ultimately I am predicting this intake will be a benefit for those who are looking for a balance between a cold-air and a short ram intake. With this intake people will not have to fear hydrolocking as much as they would with a cai. I am willing to bet that the power improvement will be equal to or less than that of a cold air intake.

And also... I never said the x-intake was a bad intake I simply said it is not what everyone blew it up to be.

I agree with you that you can only make but so much power from "just an intake" however, even if this intake doesn't make dramatically more power then anything else currently available, even if it makes the same power as say a CAI (on a dyno) no other intake will match this one as far as throttle response is concerned. Period. There is no denying it. The huge volume of air that is ready for you when you open the throttle dominates both CAI and SRI.

On top of that, every intake will make more power if you tune it. every power mod will make more power once tuned. I bet if you have stage 2 cams, race header, etc and then do back to back dyno's with this intake vs a regular SRI, this intake will make more power. Throttle response will be much, much better as well and thats basically what this intake is all about. True performance, not just dyno numbers.

If you look at what T1R says about their intake, their main focus was to increase throttle response, not necessarily power production because the stock box is pretty good at supplying the engine with the required air, but lacks throttle response.

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Old 08-04-2009, 05:38 PM   #377 (permalink)
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, well put.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:52 PM   #378 (permalink)
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I wont waste my time arguing about gains or driveability. I'm just waiting for the release and to see a couple dyno charts and hear some reviews. IMO if it performs anything better than your average short ram its worth the money.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:56 PM   #379 (permalink)
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^i agree. and it certainly will match any SRI. we dont need a dyno sheet to prove that im fairly certain.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:03 PM   #380 (permalink)
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Who has a stock Si that has pre-ordered the intake?

We should all chip in to get that person dynoed lol..
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