OFFICIAL Mugen Si parts *RANT*

[sh33t_0f_p4p3r]

1 more reason why the mugen si will be even more likely to get stolen and stipped

[Banzai74]

Manufacturers' (not just Honda) practice of limit'g access to these parts for their limited models is nothing new. BMW does the same thing for non-M car owners from buying aero parts, mats, shifters, seats, engine covers, etc. anything w/ a "M" logo from making their ordinary 3 & 5 series into knock off M cars. Keeps owners of the real deal happy, limits liability, and most importantly limit fraud.

[sikaren07]

thats not that they are being so protective over the parts of the mugen...i understand the exclusiveness but come on they would make a killing with all the parts of they could sell!

[SOLO8thGenSi]

another good point... my friend Nathen thought of. copy/pasted from AIM:

"Nathen" (8:42:14 PM): thats funny kind of
"Nathen" (8:42:15 PM): lol
"Nathen" (8:42:25 PM): you thought you cheated the system
"Nathen" (8:42:30 PM): you got pwned
SOLO7thGenEX (8:42:34 PM): it wasnt my idea lol
SOLO7thGenEX (8:42:47 PM): it was the parts guy & manager's idea to input the mugen si vin
SOLO7thGenEX (8:42:53 PM): that's the funnier part IMO
"Nathen" (8:43:35 PM): you know whats going to happen now once the mugen si owners figure this out
"Nathen" (8:43:54 PM): they will be takign stuff off their car and ordering new ones
"Nathen" (8:44:01 PM): and just selling the shit for mad profit
SOLO7thGenEX (8:44:10 PM): yeah
SOLO7thGenEX (8:44:10 PM): fraud
SOLO7thGenEX (8:44:12 PM): exactly!
SOLO7thGenEX (8:44:14 PM): good point
SOLO7thGenEX (8:44:27 PM): im going to add that to the thread... exactly copied/pasted as-is.
SOLO7thGenEX (8:44:32 PM): VERY valid argument there!
"Nathen" (8:44:47 PM): and i bet you could almost pay off the car by the looks of the prices lol
"Nathen" (8:45:16 PM): oh shit my exhaust it fell off on the highway
"Nathen" (8:45:33 PM): or.. i dunno i was parked in this lot and i came back and my front lip was just missing.

you know what also?? this may cause an INCREASE in the already staggering theft/vandalism rate of Hondas everywhere...ESPECIALLY for me down here in Orlando, FL. its already WAAAAAAAAAAAY out of hand!!

[TOMMIELOEKO]

just wait like a year from now and these damn mugen Si and wanna be mugen Si's will be in the "ricer thread" anyways!

[Undispu7ed]

Originally Posted by SOLO8thGenSi

another good point... my friend Nathen thought of. copy/pasted from AIM:



you know what also?? this may cause an INCREASE in the already staggering theft/vandalism rate of Hondas everywhere...ESPECIALLY for me down here in Orlando, FL. its already WAAAAAAAAAAAY out of hand!!

No doubt it's going to happen. There are people out there dying for that Mugen wing and will do anything to get one. Probably even rip one off of a Mugen Si!!

[Nathen]

hey i thought of it first dont everyone be going to buy a mugen si now to black market their parts!

[Rphsidan]

I DON'T UNERSTAND EVO-X IS NOT EVEN OUT AND THEY HAVE BODY KITS AND EXHAUSTS ON SALE FOR REGULAR LANCER TO UP THE SALE. WHAT THE F DOES HONDA WANT TO DO WITH THESE STUPID MUGEN SIs. BY CONTROLLING THE PARTS

i know its off the topic but common

[Banzai74]

Work'g in an industry where this almost a daily occurance, we see owners of "plebian" Porsche 911's wreak their cars and think, "I've always like the Carerra 4s' wider fenders, or the Turbo's front bumper/lip, rear spoiler. Manufacters are keen on this and have their own VIN access w/ their respective DMVs. As far as someone order'g a new set of crash parts from their local dealer time to time and trying to turn them around for a profit, you must find someone will'g to give up a vital organ or sell their own mother to pay anything above what the dealer would sell these parts to the orig owner of a limited model.

[07_FG_4Dr_S.i.]

damn your honda dealership SUCKS lol i work for honda im an auto tech here in ny already have my mugen sideskirts and rear LIp on order i also wanted the mugen exhaust but not available for order yet i get CRACKKKK prices i got all my sideskirts and rear lip and shift knob for $430

[Zeuceone]

Im pretty sure they will keep track of what each mugen owner orders so if Mr. Vin Diesel has lost 50 shift knobs in the last 2 weeks because he double clutches they would not allow it to happen. Then thay would need you to bring in the damage part and exchange it for a new one. I know if I see a Mugen civic parked something will fall off.

[dt07Si]

Hmm interesting, I heard about having a vin number but I wondered if it was that easy. I guess Honda isn't gonna be stupid about it and recognizes how easy it is to get a vin even if you don't work at a Honda dealership.

Originally Posted by SOLO8thGenSi

absolute utter bullsh!t & i WILL be phoning Honda of America on Monday when im off of work next. just think about the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars that will NOT be spent due to this horrible attempt @ keeping the Mugen Si & all its parts limited in availability.

Millions and Millions, ahahahahahah

You really think the sale of the Mugen Si parts, would generate millions in sales? I hope your kidding.

And I honestly am not surprised and to tell you the truth from the perspective of someone who might be interested in buying the car I wouldn't want all the parts available for order to just anyone. After all it is a limited edition car.

Originally Posted by MarchMadnessisMe

because it doesn't make sense that a company would stop itself from paying money when they kno ppl r willing 2 pay ridiculous prices for mugen parts why wouldn't they sell them and u talk 2 me like i have no idea wut im talkingabout but any moron knows business practices, and yes at some point you can end up losing money selling too much but they can set a certiam amount of parts they will sell and they would make a killing

I think you are the one who doesn't understand business practices. Lower availability = Higher Demand. Not to mention do you really think the concept of a limited production car that has a higher sticker price would really work if we could all log online or go to our local Honda dealerships and order the parts.

Do you really think Honda, as big of a company as they are makes a lot of money even producing or selling the Mugen Si? Porbably not.

Originally Posted by SOLO8thGenSi

i want our voice to be heard & something to change down the line. absolutely uncalled for to not allow the American citizen to spend his/her hard earned dollar on something he/she desires.

Haha, typical American Attitude. I want it!

Originally Posted by SOLO8thGenSi

one more quick question before i logoff & watch my thursday NBC shows (YESSSSSS!!!)

how would you all feel if you DID buy a Mugen Si & wanted to buy some parts but you are good with your hands & know cars... how would you react if you heard that SOMEONE else has to install the parts on your car (& likely be CHARGED labor im sure as well!!). let's say you just buy a knob, a quick shifter, and a boot... you have to be BRAIN DEAD to not be able to DIY it honestly...

they (Honda) are taking the FUN out of import car ownership & modification IMO.

Valid point but at the same time how often are these owners legitimately gonna be ordering replacement parts?
Maybe I'm wrong but odds are they parts are mainly available for warranty claims which would normally be installed by a dealer regardless (where there should be no labor charge), or in case of an accident which once again would most likely be installed by a professional.

And why would a Mugen Si owner buy a replacement know, short shifter, or boot?

Well after a long shitty day theres my .02

[Angelsi06]

Sorry you could not get your parts man. I feel your pain. I know they want Mugen Si owners to feel good a bout their investment, but its dumb to not want to make money off of Mugen partslike they are doing off the car.

One good thing to think a bout too for anyone thinking a bout Buying A Mugen Si is, 10 yrs from now if you still have that car and you have an accident or a part is stolen, how are you going to replace that part. I Imagine its not going to be there because they did not make extra parts because they didnt want it to sit in their plant doing nothing. Eventually they will sell the parts and never make them again and you are stuck with HFP part if those are still around.

[ThaJazz]

Originally Posted by sh33t_0f_p4p3r

1 more reason why the mugen si will be even more likely to get stolen and stipped

Hate to say it, but I thought the same thing.

[aki]

Uhhh, and you're surprised why?

If they didn't restrict sales then they'd completely lose out sales of the Mugen Si. I'm sorry, they make more money off somebody spending an extra $10,000 for the whole package than Mr. Shift Boot who spends $50-200. People into shift knobs and other doodads are not only a small niche, but also don't generate as much money.

And face it, the only reason why you're mad that they need a VIN, plus a dealer to install it is because you want to be able to skim one off. People bash the Mugen Si, the people that buy it--yet it's an abhorrent sin that you can't get one part? And an consequential aluminum ball, for that matter?

I mean you could buy CTR parts, which IMO have so much more prestige than Mugen. As for the exclusive aero parts, wait 6 months and some Chinese manufacturer will sell it at 30% of the cost.

[TOMMIELOEKO]

Originally Posted by TOMMIELOEKO

just wait like a year from now and these damn mugen Si and wanna be mugen Si's will be in the "ricer thread" anyways!

[blue rocket]

crazy.... honda got you sedan guys good!

[TOMMIELOEKO]

Originally Posted by blue rocket

crazy.... honda got you sedan guys good!

coupe ftmfw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[02civicsi]

No worries because at least the FA5's can get JDM parts. You can keep the coupe because there are not enough doors for me.

[TOMMIELOEKO]

Originally Posted by 02civicsi

No worries because at least the FA5's can get JDM parts. You can keep the coupe because there are not enough doors for me.

thats why its is a sportscompact not a family wagon.