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Yes - I'd be interested in buying a full lip kit 21 41.18%
Yes - I'd be interested in buying individual pieces 22 43.14%
No - Not interested 8 15.69%
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Poll to see who would be interested in these parts for the Civic sedan

I'm getting really frustrated with all the crap companies keep putting out. Spoilers that look like benches, front lips that look like snow plows, rear lips that look like they were made for a cavalier..

I'm mainly making this thread in hopes that we can convince someone like Grip tuning to produce a quality lip kit for the sedan. As it is now, all we really have is the incredibly boring kit HFP offers (lets face it, the side skirts look like 2x4s strapped to the side of the car and painted, the front lip is practically n othing and the rear lip has very few lines that look good).

Grip tuning has made the comment on here about how they'd be more inclined to produce a sedan kit if the coupe kit sold better. Well, I think they made a mistake in making the coupe kit - it looks quite similiar to the HFP kit, which I would venture as far as to say the majority of coupe owners already have. So why switch?

However, us sedan owners are very, very limited. We have the HFP lip kit (which I think a lot of us don't have), authentic mugen parts that run thousands of dollars, and that's basically it. So I think that if Grip tuning (or BE or any company, really) were to produce an aggressive, but good looking, kit (individual pieces would be best imo), it would be a killer in sales.

This is really what I'm thinking:

Front Lip:

Here, I'm pretty undecided about what they'd do. I'm inclined to say the Mugen SI front lip, but a lot of people dont' really like it. it does have some kind of an odd look to it. I guess this would be up to them, but something aggressive looking like the Mugen SI front lip seems to have going.

Side skirts - Just do what Mugen did.. or very close. They look VERY good:






For the rear, once again, I'm proprose they rip off (or very closely resemble) the Mugen Si's rear bumper. Why mess with success? I think a lot of people want a low hanging bumper like that to offset the Mugen spoiler if they ever plan on getting one.. and it just looks incredible. Only downside is that it's $600+ to buy the real one, and a lot of us can't afford it.



Hell, if they could forgo the dual exhaust outlets, I think the Mugen RR rear lip would look outstanding as well:



So am I basically proposing a knockoff of a Mugen SI? Well, something similiar to that. It doesn't have to be exact, but the right idea is there. I just wish a company would get on the ball with this - I KNOW it would be a huge seller, no doubt about it. The demand is there, just no one is supplying it.

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I hope someone that can work on this gives the USDM civic some more attention, i can imagine people buying these parts like crazy if they are ever made.

btw i wonder where would you get the first pic of the asm fd1 Mugen? can i get a link/more pics?
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One sec. gotta go help my friend find a key out in the snow, whoop whoop. Hopefully a poll is coming
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that mugen RR is sexy as hell!
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I hope someone that can work on this gives the USDM civic some more attention, i can imagine people buying these parts like crazy if they are ever made.

btw i wonder where would you get the first pic of the asm fd1 Mugen? can i get a link/more pics?
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Wow! exterior looks just like what im doing on my car lol

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Hummm. looks like the much fabled password intake in those pics!
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^^ Is that front lip they offer a replica of the Mugen SI? I can't really tell as their picture really lacks detail. Not feeling the rear bumper at all Skirts look good, though
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^^ Is that front lip they offer a replica of the Mugen SI? I can't really tell as their picture really lacks detail. Not feeling the rear bumper at all Skirts look good, though
That's the jdm Mugen replica kit, the rear is supposed to painted flat black like the partition from the grill...like this:





Side skirts and rear lip will fit, front lip and grill wont.

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I believe theres enough Aero Parts to cover the 8th gen. Sedan, if money wasn't the issue. If we're looking for cheaper parts, comes cheap qualities.

Designing and Prototyping new parts (Full Aero-Kit) would cost well over 20K, i'm not sure any company are willing to take the risk putting out new Aero products.

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I AGREE with everyone, the mugen parts looks sexy, but then it is a bit pricey. Are there any Cheaper Wings? i like the mugen style wings.
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I believe theres enough Aero Parts to cover the 8th gen. Sedan, if money wasn't the issue. If we're looking for cheaper parts, comes cheap qualities.

Designing and Prototyping new parts (Full Aero-Kit) would cost well over 20K, i'm not sure any company are willing to take the risk putting out new Aero products.
So you're telling me it would cost 20k for them to take an already existing, designed and tested product and COPY it? I'd hardly say it would cost that much. No one is calling for wind testing of the products to ensure the best drag co-efficients and whatnot. Just a copy of a product that's already made. Why do you think Chinese "I-phones" sell for like $100? They just ripped the design, they didn't have to put excessive capital into designing it themselves. That's where 19.5k of the 20k you're talking about comes from.
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So you're telling me it would cost 20k for them to take an already existing, designed and tested product and COPY it? I'd hardly say it would cost that much. No one is calling for wind testing of the products to ensure the best drag co-efficients and whatnot. Just a copy of a product that's already made. Why do you think Chinese "I-phones" sell for like $100? They just ripped the design, they didn't have to put excessive capital into designing it themselves. That's where 19.5k of the 20k you're talking about comes from.
No, copying an existing part would be much cheaper then the (Design/Prototype) parts, but not too many Companys are willing invest in a part that's already exist to make it more affordable. While facing Copyright, better quality, etc.
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No, copying an existing part would be much cheaper then the (Design/Prototype) parts, but not too many Companys are willing invest in a part that's already exist to make it more affordable. While facing Copyright, better quality, etc.
I'm going to have to disagree.. look at all the replicas now? Mugen skirts.. $600. BE sells them for $240. Same idea, yeah? I just want them to start knocking of GOOD products instead of designing their own products that aren't as good as the real things.
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I know where you coming from, same reason why GReddy (TRUST) file Chapter 11. But its the Companys like Mugen, Spoon, etc. that pave the Aero Dynamic Designs, Performances parts, etc. for the future. Without them, looks whats left for us?
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Not much. However.. $600 for side skirts, $500 for a front lip, $1200 for a wing.. I can't take that, neither can most civic owners unless they want to spend a fairly sizable amount of their income on a spoiler.
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Well we're just have to wait for Company to release knock-offs. Said...Mugen CTR chin, convert into USDM front-end made of ABS or Fiberglass! GL!!
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