AM body kits?

ksmithers88 · 08-14-2006, 12:07 AM

i've yet to find an aftermarket body kit that isn't ricey, or flow with the car. As far as I know, there are only a handful of them (4?), just wonderin if anybody has seen one they like, or would sticking to the hfp aero kit be my best bet?

fa1 · 08-14-2006, 01:37 AM

hfp

TreeFrog · 08-14-2006, 06:39 AM

downforce Tourenn body kit and lip kit.

http://downforce.biz/cart/home.php?cat=258

only one so far that i like. i'm NOT a fan of the HFP one, i want a kit to look different, not like every one joe shmoe who bought an Si.

**dentrecords** · 08-14-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeFrog

downforce Tourenn body kit and lip kit.

http://downforce.biz/cart/home.php?cat=258

only one so far that i like. i'm NOT a fan of the HFP one, i want a kit to look different, not like every one joe shmoe who bought an Si.

Ack, it looks like a cow catcher.

I've only seen one coupe with the HFP body kit, and it wasn't an Si. I've seen over 30 coupes around Ottawa, getting close to 10 Sis now..

I'd personally opt for the HFP, but if it's not your thing, that's all good too. I wouldn't get a body kit just cause it's the best option available at the moment... lots more should be out in the next while.

***Yodums*** · 08-14-2006, 01:42 PM

I'm not a fan of body kits, but if I had to pick one, HFP. Otherwise, I'd wait for a lip kit and spend the difference on a CF hood or something. Looks a lot better IMO.

PoLiShPrInCe · 08-14-2006, 05:06 PM

im still waiting for other type of lip kit to be released... i had the mugen style on the integra and i loved it... im waiting

Zesti1 · 08-14-2006, 06:10 PM

Im with PP on this one. Waiting to see what comes out!

trymev8 · 08-16-2006, 01:16 AM

Im actually thinking about getting this one, it looks pretty sick.

Fishytron · 08-16-2006, 02:14 AM

i agree +1 to that ^^^^^^

jc21 · 08-16-2006, 02:20 AM

unless that's urethane, a pricetag of over 2g is insane if it's fiberglass. If it's urethane then i could partially understand.

trymev8 · 08-16-2006, 06:23 AM

its only 2g, if you get it painted too, regular price is around 1.1k for that full body kit.

Kurt · 08-16-2006, 07:12 AM

I really want that front bumper ^^

Can you buy just the front?

trymev8 · 08-16-2006, 05:40 PM

ya you can just buy the front bumper, but that wouldnt look to good, because the front would be lower then the rest of the car, so i suggest getting the side skirts too.

elee · 08-17-2006, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksmithers88

i've yet to find an aftermarket body kit that isn't ricey, or flow with the car. As far as I know, there are only a handful of them (4?), just wonderin if anybody has seen one they like, or would sticking to the hfp aero kit be my best bet?

I personally think the body kit from accolade pretty nice!

jspecFG · 08-17-2006, 02:09 PM

waiting for a CF lip!! YEAHHH

nsxpowered · 08-20-2006, 01:07 PM

Currently DF only makes fiberglass, because that is the only suitable material for car application. Fiberglass is very strong and semi flexible that can hold its shape and form throughout decades of extreme temperture use. If you have seen our fiberglass it is no way to be compared to any other company. Our materials alone cost more then the competitors entire process to making their products. The material used to make one bumper at our bulk purchasing price from our supplier is approximately $175. We use US and European materials. Hexcel fiberglass, the same stuff used by Boeing. Our resins are tooling grade which offer low shrinkage and high strength. Our raw materials are all certified per lot. There is no such thing as Grade A or double AA CF. Either the CF is certified to use for Aerospace or not. There is so much lies out there, there should be laws against this. There is no such thing as color CF, Carbon is black and you can't colorize black. Those color CF they sell are colored fiberglass such as silver, yellow, red, blue, gold, black (which they sell as CF). Don't buy into the hype of flexible fiberglass, all it is, is nothing more then just adding an urethane agent into the resin and mixing it together. This urethane agent will cause the bumper to warp after curing. So out in the heat it could change shape. If you flex the bumper too much it will crack the gelcoat paint. When that happens it will spider crack your paint and could lead to the paint to flake off. All the big companies are now manufacturing kits from China which only cost $15 to make a bumper and retailing from $150 - $475. Just imagine the quality of the materials being used and the standards.

We have contemplated about going into the urethane market before, but however the technology for urethane is far from perfected. Urethane has a short life and is a very heavy rubber based material. Many manufacturers are using urethane because the material is cheap, the machine needed is cheap, the molds are cheap to produce. There is only one company in the USA that make somewhat decent urethane and it is Kaminari. JP also make good urethane from Japan. They actually have a high pressure machine that can yield a thinner and lighter part. However as all urethane material do not have a long shelf life and paint does not like to stick to urethane as well by nature. The constant contraction and expansion from the weather temperture causes the material to stress and eventually give out. The material is very sensitive to tempertures from 60 - 80 degree F. This is why all bumpers will sag within 3 years or less. The thicker the part the more it will be affected by temperture.

When we expand and get into plastics, we will be offering actual OEM thermoplastics. Our bumpers will weigh 1/3 of urethane, and will not be affected by tempertures. Car paints stick to polymers much better and are easier to paint. A typical Urethane mold for a bumper is $6,000.00 where as a TPO Polymer mold is $250,000.00. It is nowhere in the same ballpark. If you have any questions you can ask directly at our contact page on our site.

TreeFrog · 08-21-2006, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trymev8

Im actually thinking about getting this one, it looks pretty sick.

this is the kit i was talking about. the quality is #1 grade a. it uses the factory bolt locations. they can ship it painted!!!!! meaning it WILL fit 100% no BS like with cheap kits.

addicted1 · 08-21-2006, 04:29 PM

give it time, wait for some of the big players to come out with something. They take longer for a reason, more functional and better quality. I'm waiting to see what C-West and Wings West will bring out. Some of the more hardcore Jap companies may not work on this car though.. would love INGS to make something but I'm not holding my breathe on that.

sick_civic · 08-23-2006, 08:15 PM

that body kit is sick.....look how smooth and sexy...

noway near rice like those hotwheels body kit....ACK!!

sickSIcivic06 · 08-24-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trymev8

Im actually thinking about getting this one, it looks pretty sick.

Yes that body kit is very nice. I'm hoping to get it in september when I have the money

08-14-2006, 12:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
ksmithers88 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Jax, Fl Posts: 314 SAAC Member #3 iTrader: 0 / 0%	AM body kits? i've yet to find an aftermarket body kit that isn't ricey, or flow with the car. As far as I know, there are only a handful of them (4?), just wonderin if anybody has seen one they like, or would sticking to the hfp aero kit be my best bet?

08-14-2006, 01:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Yodums* Scrodums Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 1 Posts: 9,224 iTrader: 12 / 100%	I'm not a fan of body kits, but if I had to pick one, HFP. Otherwise, I'd wait for a lip kit and spend the difference on a CF hood or something. Looks a lot better IMO. __________________ 2007 Taffeta White Civic Si Coupe

08-20-2006, 01:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
nsxpowered Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0%	A little FYI from industry manufacturer Currently DF only makes fiberglass, because that is the only suitable material for car application. Fiberglass is very strong and semi flexible that can hold its shape and form throughout decades of extreme temperture use. If you have seen our fiberglass it is no way to be compared to any other company. Our materials alone cost more then the competitors entire process to making their products. The material used to make one bumper at our bulk purchasing price from our supplier is approximately $175. We use US and European materials. Hexcel fiberglass, the same stuff used by Boeing. Our resins are tooling grade which offer low shrinkage and high strength. Our raw materials are all certified per lot. There is no such thing as Grade A or double AA CF. Either the CF is certified to use for Aerospace or not. There is so much lies out there, there should be laws against this. There is no such thing as color CF, Carbon is black and you can't colorize black. Those color CF they sell are colored fiberglass such as silver, yellow, red, blue, gold, black (which they sell as CF). Don't buy into the hype of flexible fiberglass, all it is, is nothing more then just adding an urethane agent into the resin and mixing it together. This urethane agent will cause the bumper to warp after curing. So out in the heat it could change shape. If you flex the bumper too much it will crack the gelcoat paint. When that happens it will spider crack your paint and could lead to the paint to flake off. All the big companies are now manufacturing kits from China which only cost $15 to make a bumper and retailing from $150 - $475. Just imagine the quality of the materials being used and the standards. We have contemplated about going into the urethane market before, but however the technology for urethane is far from perfected. Urethane has a short life and is a very heavy rubber based material. Many manufacturers are using urethane because the material is cheap, the machine needed is cheap, the molds are cheap to produce. There is only one company in the USA that make somewhat decent urethane and it is Kaminari. JP also make good urethane from Japan. They actually have a high pressure machine that can yield a thinner and lighter part. However as all urethane material do not have a long shelf life and paint does not like to stick to urethane as well by nature. The constant contraction and expansion from the weather temperture causes the material to stress and eventually give out. The material is very sensitive to tempertures from 60 - 80 degree F. This is why all bumpers will sag within 3 years or less. The thicker the part the more it will be affected by temperture. When we expand and get into plastics, we will be offering actual OEM thermoplastics. Our bumpers will weigh 1/3 of urethane, and will not be affected by tempertures. Car paints stick to polymers much better and are easier to paint. A typical Urethane mold for a bumper is $6,000.00 where as a TPO Polymer mold is $250,000.00. It is nowhere in the same ballpark. If you have any questions you can ask directly at our contact page on our site.

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PoLiShPrInCe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: GTA, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 3,141 iTrader: 0 / 0%	im still waiting for other type of lip kit to be released... i had the mugen style on the integra and i loved it... im waiting

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trymev8 Senior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 205 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Im actually thinking about getting this one, it looks pretty sick.

08-16-2006, 02:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
Fishytron Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Detroit Age: 25 Posts: 659 iTrader: 0 / 0%	i agree +1 to that ^^^^^^

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jc21 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago/Lincoln Park Age: 25 Posts: 1,211 I Like Cheese iTrader: 2 / 100%	unless that's urethane, a pricetag of over 2g is insane if it's fiberglass. If it's urethane then i could partially understand.

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trymev8 Senior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 205 iTrader: 0 / 0%	its only 2g, if you get it painted too, regular price is around 1.1k for that full body kit.

08-16-2006, 07:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kurt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 4,250 iTrader: 2 / 100%	I really want that front bumper ^^ Can you buy just the front?

08-16-2006, 05:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
trymev8 Senior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 205 iTrader: 0 / 0%	ya you can just buy the front bumper, but that wouldnt look to good, because the front would be lower then the rest of the car, so i suggest getting the side skirts too.

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jspecFG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 883 iTrader: 0 / 0%	waiting for a CF lip!! YEAHHH

08-21-2006, 04:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
addicted1 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 93 iTrader: 0 / 0%	give it time, wait for some of the big players to come out with something. They take longer for a reason, more functional and better quality. I'm waiting to see what C-West and Wings West will bring out. Some of the more hardcore Jap companies may not work on this car though.. would love INGS to make something but I'm not holding my breathe on that.

08-23-2006, 08:15 PM	#19 (permalink)
sick_civic Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 850 iTrader: 0 / 0%	that body kit is sick.....look how smooth and sexy... noway near rice like those hotwheels body kit....ACK!!