Long vs. Short Shift Knobs

[Si Speed 317]

What is the difference "performance" wise? I know a shorter knob means a shorter throw, but how come in all of the Japanese CTR and Mugen RR and even the one CTR and FG2 video in japanese, they all have long knobs like these?



I was thinking of getting one, maybe a Skunk2 knob, but yea idk

Thanks

[NIGHTHAWKSI]

the shorter the knob = shorter the throw...but it also takes more force to move the knob.

the taller the knob, the more leverage you have and it moves into gear much easier....although the throw will feel longer

its all persoanl prefrence.

BTW, the skunk2 knob will not sit any lower inyour car.

[w00t692]

I need to take some pictures of mine I think. I have the M1 Abrams knob from TWM, and it's sexy and sits VERY low.

[Si Speed 317]

Originally Posted by NIGHTHAWKSI

the shorter the knob = shorter the throw...but it also takes more force to move the knob.

the taller the knob, the more leverage you have and it moves into gear much easier....although the throw will feel longer

its all persoanl prefrence.

BTW, the skunk2 knob will not sit any lower inyour car.

I was thinking of getting a Mugen Long Knob like the picture in my OP. Probably more fun? Idk I might have to swap cars with Stan if he doesn't mind and check out his Skunk2

[mattsbobo]

Originally Posted by Si Speed 317

I was thinking of getting a Mugen Long Knob like the picture in my OP. Probably more fun? Idk I might have to swap cars with Stan if he doesn't mind and check out his Skunk2

I've got the Mugen "Formula" knob, and it's definitely been my favorite one to date.

[Harry]

^I picked up a red one about a month ago. Feels good but I wish it was a little heavier.

[Si Speed 317]

I just looked around, I figured its "Go big or go home" so I just bought one. Let's hope this is $90 shift knob floats my boat. I figured worse comes to worse I can pass it on to another 8th member. Let's see how this turns out! I've read nothing but good reviews on it so hmmmm

[Ayodog]

On alot of cars i have seen longer knobs but they're generally older ones. Heavy low sitting knobs have seemed to be very praised on these forums, as well as SS kits. But i know people who dislike all of that stuff due to it making throws much stiffer and personally stiffness would affect downshifts. For me that is, i'm sure some people take to the stiffness differently.

[Si Speed 317]

^ Good point. I was looking for shortness as well, but then again I wanted a loud-ass exhaust system and now I'm one of the quietest around that isn't stock. The mod bug made me change!

[mattsbobo]

Personally, I think knob choice depends on your shift grip. If you hold your shifter "pistol grip" style, I think something like the Mugen Formula works better. If you hold it baseball pitch style, a big round one works better.

[Si Speed 317]

Originally Posted by mattsbobo

Personally, I think knob choice depends on your shift grip. If you hold your shifter "pistol grip" style, I think something like the Mugen Formula works better. If you hold it baseball pitch style, a big round one works better.

I hold it baseball style but idk, i'll try pistol whipping

[mattsbobo]

Originally Posted by Si Speed 317

I hold it baseball style but idk, i'll try pistol whipping

Touche' sir.

[WolfSong]

Actually the purpose of the taller shift knob is to keep your hand on the steering wheel longer.

Most people don't take this into account but your shift begins when you remove your hand from the wheel and ends when you put your hand back on the wheel. If you are driving seriously... you have both hands on the steering wheel as much as possible. Because of that, a professional driver shifts with one movement, and the smaller you make that movement, the quicker it is.

The less distance from your hand's position on the steering wheel to the shifter and back. Less time with your hand off the wheel. Quicker shift.

You see rally cars with long shifters or dash mounted shifters... they actually tried that on the last USDM Civic Si but everyone said "Ewww..." so Honda gave up on it. This is so the driver spends more time with his hands where they're needed... on the steering wheel.

One of our customers who was an ex F3 driver did this in his '99 Si... we joked about the d***o he put on the shifter, but I tell you, sitting in the passenger seat and watching him shift... we shut up pretty quickly.

In a street car... it boils down to personal preference... but in race cars, there is actually a purpose behind it.

[Si Speed 317]

^ Good information. Thanks!

[Asif22]

Originally Posted by WolfSong

Actually the purpose of the taller shift knob is to keep your hand on the steering wheel longer.

Most people don't take this into account but your shift begins when you remove your hand from the wheel and ends when you put your hand back on the wheel. If you are driving seriously... you have both hands on the steering wheel as much as possible. Because of that, a professional driver shifts with one movement, and the smaller you make that movement, the quicker it is.

The less distance from your hand's position on the steering wheel to the shifter and back. Less time with your hand off the wheel. Quicker shift.

You see rally cars with long shifters or dash mounted shifters... they actually tried that on the last USDM Civic Si but everyone said "Ewww..." so Honda gave up on it. This is so the driver spends more time with his hands where they're needed... on the steering wheel.

One of our customers who was an ex F3 driver did this in his '99 Si... we joked about the d***o he put on the shifter, but I tell you, sitting in the passenger seat and watching him shift... we shut up pretty quickly.

In a street car... it boils down to personal preference... but in race cars, there is actually a purpose behind it.

Wow that is actually a really good point...The ep3 did have a good thing going with the dash mount shifter

[heybluguy]

arc knob is my favorite to date

[pks17]

Its mostly just a personal thing. Maybe in japan they like longer shift knobs? lol
But in racing, you want a longer knob, that way your shifting hand will always close to the steering wheel .

[Zeuceone]

mines short and its a stiff shift. feels more connected to me.

[heybluguy]

^^^^^ thats deep.

[Zeuceone]

that's what she said..