Simple magic solution?? PAC AOEM-HON17 ???

bsbabcock · 05-12-2008, 05:54 PM

I'm researching but finding little.. This little guy might be the ticket...

From all I'm seeing, the civic premium oem head unit sends balanced outs to the outboard oem amp... If normal RCA outs can be generated from those Diff Balanced outs, a guy could use any amp diff inputs or not.. such as a KAC-X4R kenwood amp with all the DSP crossover, eq, time-alignment etc a guy could want for tuning.

http://www.pac-audio.com/instructions/OEM-1.pdf

I shot an email to PAC directly asking about it. Hopefully we might have a cute little product to make simple amp upgrades with tunability to factory head unit easy... and inexpensive.

toxin · 05-13-2008, 01:27 AM

Let us know will ya!

bsbabcock · 05-13-2008, 09:39 AM

We'll see..
I posed the question to their tech support specifically mentioning the Honda's oem head unit inputs and the resulting outputs from the PAC unit.

Two of those DSP digital kenwood amps would drive two-way active frontstage, rear fill and sub, ALL completely tuneable w/ active crossovers, para-eq and individual time alignment adjustments... Just add better speaker drivers and then pull your hair out tuning forever. :) Or bribe a friend I work with on Buwalda's team to help with an RTA. hehehe

mercman · 05-13-2008, 11:57 AM

I have a Harness and active interface converter for the premium system that lets you connect any aftermarket amp. If you have an amp with balanced inputs you can skip the converter and plug the harness right in. The active converter is flat with very low distortion numbers. The harness attaches to the factory harness and also provides the remote wire and line outs.

I have been doing these for over a year mostly for the TSX but the Premium Civic system uses the same set up. A bunch of Civic guy’s are already using my harness and converter with the premium system.

jeff

toxin · 05-13-2008, 12:35 PM

I'm using it with my JL 500/5 and it's great. I just like having the option of using unbalanced amps in the future too.

bsbabcock · 05-13-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxin

I'm using it with my JL 500/5 and it's great. I just like having the option of using unbalanced amps in the future too.

"it" meaning the PAC AOEM unit or Mercman's (Jeff's) kit?

happytorito · 05-13-2008, 04:15 PM

I was just looking at that PAC harnes too...It looks like a good option...Let us know if you find out anything.

toxin · 05-13-2008, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsbabcock

"it" meaning the PAC AOEM unit or Mercman's (Jeff's) kit?

Mercman's harness. Sorry for not being clear. I don't need the PAC since my JL has balanced inputs.

UnMechanic · 05-18-2008, 11:51 AM

Hi, I would like to upgrade my component speakers powered by an aftermarket amp and hopefully put them in the stock positions. I want to keep the stock head unit. I've heard from the forums that the stock HU doesn't need any sound modulation, but would require a harness to connect to a compatible amplifier. Where can I get a stock HU to aftermarket amp wiring harness? I'm thinking of a single 5 channel amp to power everything. Now I guess I'll need a harness to connect the stock hu to the amp. Where do you guys think I should mount the amp? And what components should I get that can easily fit into the stock housings? Thanks guys.

John

Jayhawker · 05-18-2008, 02:02 PM

^^^^^^

I would say get a JL Audio Clean Sweep or a Rockford 3 Sixty. I am running a Kenwood KAC-X4R with "shielded" RCA's, and using 2 line level converters and I am still getting a lot of noise when I go into "re gen" mode. I am getting a new head unit and I know this will get rid of all the noise. If you want to keep the stock head unit, go with one of the two processors listed above.

UnMechanic · 05-18-2008, 02:39 PM

Mercman where can I purchase the wiring harness to connect the stock HU to an aftermarket amp? I'm planning to connect it to a rockford fosgate amp, which I believe accepts balanced diff inputs

mercman · 05-18-2008, 07:03 PM

Just Drop me a PM

jeff

bsbabcock · 05-19-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawker

^^^^^^

I would say get a JL Audio Clean Sweep or a Rockford 3 Sixty. I am running a Kenwood KAC-X4R with "shielded" RCA's, and using 2 line level converters and I am still getting a lot of noise when I go into "re gen" mode. I am getting a new head unit and I know this will get rid of all the noise. If you want to keep the stock head unit, go with one of the two processors listed above.

I suspect it's your loc's.
"re gen" mode????

mercman · 05-19-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawker

^^^^^^

I would say get a JL Audio Clean Sweep or a Rockford 3 Sixty. I am running a Kenwood KAC-X4R with "shielded" RCA's, and using 2 line level converters and I am still getting a lot of noise when I go into "re gen" mode. I am getting a new head unit and I know this will get rid of all the noise. If you want to keep the stock head unit, go with one of the two processors listed above.

Do you have the premium or standard sound system HU?

With the premium system there is no need for sound processors or noise eliminators. Noise with the factory system integration can be avoided by using the proper connection techniques.

jeff

Duce2k · 05-19-2008, 04:27 PM

I know of a guy in another forum that used mercman's harness and connected it to a blanced input Audiocontrol four.1 EQ, the Audiocontrol eq's have differential inputs and outputs which are switchable to unbalanced depending on your amp, by using one of these you can use any amp whether it accepts balanced or unbalanced inputs

olsonoski · 05-20-2008, 11:04 PM

does anyone have a pic of what mercman's adaptor/harness looks like? i need one of them ASAP. if anyone knows a quick way to get a hold of mercman please let me know too. thanks!

Jayhawker · 05-21-2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsbabcock

I suspect it's your loc's.
"re gen" mode????

I have a Hybrid.

Mercmans quote "Do you have the premium or standard sound system HU?"

No, I have the basic radio.

Like I said though, once I get the new head unit, all of my issues will be gone.

bsbabcock · 05-21-2008, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olsonoski

does anyone have a pic of what mercman's adaptor/harness looks like? i need one of them ASAP. if anyone knows a quick way to get a hold of mercman please let me know too. thanks!

PM him.

olsonoski · 05-21-2008, 11:11 AM

yep. i got a hold of him. thanks.

hey has anyone actually tried the PAC device? any feedback on how its working for them?

Duce2k · 05-21-2008, 01:25 PM

I have his harness but I haven't installed my system yet, I still need to get my front components and another amp. I'll probably take pics of the install and post them up.

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bsbabcock Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 264 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Simple magic solution?? PAC AOEM-HON17 ??? I'm researching but finding little.. This little guy might be the ticket... From all I'm seeing, the civic premium oem head unit sends balanced outs to the outboard oem amp... If normal RCA outs can be generated from those Diff Balanced outs, a guy could use any amp diff inputs or not.. such as a KAC-X4R kenwood amp with all the DSP crossover, eq, time-alignment etc a guy could want for tuning. http://www.pac-audio.com/instructions/OEM-1.pdf I shot an email to PAC directly asking about it. Hopefully we might have a cute little product to make simple amp upgrades with tunability to factory head unit easy... and inexpensive.

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UnMechanic Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Amp and speaker upgrade for FA5 Hi, I would like to upgrade my component speakers powered by an aftermarket amp and hopefully put them in the stock positions. I want to keep the stock head unit. I've heard from the forums that the stock HU doesn't need any sound modulation, but would require a harness to connect to a compatible amplifier. Where can I get a stock HU to aftermarket amp wiring harness? I'm thinking of a single 5 channel amp to power everything. Now I guess I'll need a harness to connect the stock hu to the amp. Where do you guys think I should mount the amp? And what components should I get that can easily fit into the stock housings? Thanks guys. John Last edited by UnMechanic; 05-18-2008 at 11:52 AM.

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toxin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 185 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Let us know will ya!

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bsbabcock Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 264 iTrader: 0 / 0%	We'll see.. I posed the question to their tech support specifically mentioning the Honda's oem head unit inputs and the resulting outputs from the PAC unit. Two of those DSP digital kenwood amps would drive two-way active frontstage, rear fill and sub, ALL completely tuneable w/ active crossovers, para-eq and individual time alignment adjustments... Just add better speaker drivers and then pull your hair out tuning forever. :) Or bribe a friend I work with on Buwalda's team to help with an RTA. hehehe

05-13-2008, 11:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
mercman Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 86 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have a Harness and active interface converter for the premium system that lets you connect any aftermarket amp. If you have an amp with balanced inputs you can skip the converter and plug the harness right in. The active converter is flat with very low distortion numbers. The harness attaches to the factory harness and also provides the remote wire and line outs. I have been doing these for over a year mostly for the TSX but the Premium Civic system uses the same set up. A bunch of Civic guy’s are already using my harness and converter with the premium system. jeff

05-13-2008, 12:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
toxin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 185 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm using it with my JL 500/5 and it's great. I just like having the option of using unbalanced amps in the future too.

05-13-2008, 04:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
happytorito Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 45 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I was just looking at that PAC harnes too...It looks like a good option...Let us know if you find out anything.

05-18-2008, 02:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jayhawker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 233 iTrader: 0 / 0%	^^^^^^ I would say get a JL Audio Clean Sweep or a Rockford 3 Sixty. I am running a Kenwood KAC-X4R with "shielded" RCA's, and using 2 line level converters and I am still getting a lot of noise when I go into "re gen" mode. I am getting a new head unit and I know this will get rid of all the noise. If you want to keep the stock head unit, go with one of the two processors listed above.

05-18-2008, 02:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
UnMechanic Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Mercman where can I purchase the wiring harness to connect the stock HU to an aftermarket amp? I'm planning to connect it to a rockford fosgate amp, which I believe accepts balanced diff inputs

05-18-2008, 07:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
mercman Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 86 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Just Drop me a PM jeff

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Duce2k Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,711 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I know of a guy in another forum that used mercman's harness and connected it to a blanced input Audiocontrol four.1 EQ, the Audiocontrol eq's have differential inputs and outputs which are switchable to unbalanced depending on your amp, by using one of these you can use any amp whether it accepts balanced or unbalanced inputs

05-20-2008, 11:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
olsonoski Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0%	does anyone have a pic of what mercman's adaptor/harness looks like? i need one of them ASAP. if anyone knows a quick way to get a hold of mercman please let me know too. thanks!

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olsonoski Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yep. i got a hold of him. thanks. hey has anyone actually tried the PAC device? any feedback on how its working for them?

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Duce2k Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,711 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I have his harness but I haven't installed my system yet, I still need to get my front components and another amp. I'll probably take pics of the install and post them up.