Went to my first audio competition saturday

mike11202 · 10-17-2007, 03:36 PM

They had a brand new out of the box TL.. they used the test to find my peak frequency and i think that probably drained out most of my power before burping

scored 143.4 in stock class 1 15", sealed-up on dash, daily driver box

the guy with 4 15 or 18" solo x's in a wall powered by 4 orion 2500's only hit 149.2

my 2nd try..

***Utsaappt802*** · 10-17-2007, 03:38 PM

Yeah, but a few DB''s more means twice the sound no?

Its been a while since I was last at one but my friend had 7 15"'s in an Integra and he used to pound out 170's

Good Job on the 143 though

negativezeroz · 10-17-2007, 03:42 PM

Good numbers for your DD. As for that Blazer with the Kickers, well DD is louder than Kicker. Period.

To Utsaappt802:

I kinda don't believe your friend was hitting 170+dB in a DA/DC. As for gaining for dBs, for a theoretical 3dB gain you must double the power.

2007SiSedan · 10-17-2007, 08:03 PM

Something must be off in the blazer. This year I was able to score 148.8 on the dash with a TL. I only had 2 RF T1 15's running off a RF T1500-1bd. I have already tore my stuff down for the season and have dropped down to 2 12's, RF P3's to be exact. The new 07 model P3 subs are LOUD. I will be running the same amp, 2 RF P3 12's tuned to 45hz, Kinetik HC1400 battery, and a RF 25farad capacitor. I think the T1's could have achieved about 3db more. But I didn't want to double my power to get there.

And if your running a DD sub, you should be able to pul more than 143 out of it. Those subs are badass and can handle some extreme abuse.

negativezeroz,
on the old audiocontrol systems, I can believe his friend was seeing a 170. The audiocontrols were way unaccurate. Thats why everyone has swithched to Termlab. I remember seeing a 151 off my old JL audio subs running off an old Kenwood 944 amp, max power at 2ohm was about 700 watts.

That same setup today off the termlabs would probably score high 130's.

negativezeroz · 10-17-2007, 09:38 PM

Well yes, TL's are the standard but most people don't have $400+ to spend on mic so he probably bought a cheap ass mic lol

mike11202 · 10-17-2007, 10:59 PM

143 is a very good legal score for a trunk car, the clinic test probably hurt my score alot, I hit 142.5 on the clinic 35/62 and 143.4 62/62 53hz 30 sec burp. I did not have my remote so i had to use the volume knob to go to full power.

I made this thread to post my progress not to hear how all these people are better than me good for them, idc.

2007Si - Let's see some pics or proof of that score, don't just post it in words.

Thanks for any support guys.

2007SiSedan · 10-17-2007, 11:09 PM

Mike, I'm not bashing you in anyway. Sorry if I came off that way. 143 is tremendous for 1 15. Don't get me wrong. I was just saying if you have a DD sub its a badass sub. Not saying the blazer is better, was just saying that if the guy has all that in the blazer something is wrong. If it was mine and I hit that I would tear it down. But dude, please accept my apologies if I came off as if I was bashing you. I definitely didn't mean it that way.

Mike also, can't get you pics of numbers cause I never take my camera to any comps. Heres a couple pics of the old setup:

As you can see nothing special. Basically a fart box in the rear. Turned out I did not have enough power for the subs. Didn't want to add another 1500-1 as I didn't want to murder my alternator. I want to upgrade the factory alternator, but don't want Honda to say screw you when I go in for warranty work.

I took a look at you profile and says you run the Fi 15. Never seen them in person but have looked at the videos on realmofexcursion.com. Sounds like a mean sub. When I was looking to rebuild I looked at DD, Fi, Re, and of course RF. Due to having a local dealer for RF I went back that way for warranty issues.

Again man, my apologies for coming off as a prick if thats the way it seemed.

lostdaytomorrow · 10-18-2007, 12:06 AM

Awesome man, I bet it bangs.

lostdaytomorrow · 10-18-2007, 12:06 AM

Awesome man, I bet it bangs.

Phlipcyde · 10-18-2007, 01:00 AM

Sorry if you mentioned this earlier. But which amp are you using now, the nine.1 or that other 3kw amp? Either way thats an excellent score from a single 15 out of the trunk. Wish I could get metered with a TL up here, but no one has one in Alaska

. Maybe when I head down to Phoenix this spring I can finally get metered.

jackolee · 10-18-2007, 01:42 AM

man id love to go to one of those and put in my super sub box and try it... not trying to brag but its pretty loud gives me a head ache so i turned the base to -4... but everyone that rides with me tries to turn base all the way up

mike11202 · 10-18-2007, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phlipcyde

Sorry if you mentioned this earlier. But which amp are you using now, the nine.1 or that other 3kw amp? Either way thats an excellent score from a single 15 out of the trunk. Wish I could get metered with a TL up here, but no one has one in Alaska

. Maybe when I head down to Phoenix this spring I can finally get metered.

I'm using the American Bass VFL 200.1, both that and the DD didn't even get warm during the clinic or burps

***Utsaappt802*** · 10-18-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by negativezeroz

Good numbers for your DD. As for that Blazer with the Kickers, well DD is louder than Kicker. Period.

To Utsaappt802:

I kinda don't believe your friend was hitting 170+dB in a DA/DC. As for gaining for dBs, for a theoretical 3dB gain you must double the power.

Your right, I made it up................

bikinpunk · 10-18-2007, 09:34 AM

I'd like to get my w7 metered. It's tuned very low, but when I want to crank it up that thing still slams (and sounds oh-so-nice).

2007SiSedan · 10-18-2007, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike11202

I'm using the American Bass VFL 200.1, both that and the DD didn't even get warm during the clinic or burps

So you are running DD. What series? 9500?

NIGHTHAWKSI · 10-18-2007, 10:54 AM

nice numbers. but i would have expected better from the guy with the solo x's. my last car i was very into sound competition and i had 2 12" L7's each in their own 2.25 cubic feet boxes and i hit 158 db. supporting that was teh OEM alternator (which i went through a few of during the time i owned the car,lol), a optima yellow top as a second battery, a 50 farad cap, and a bpx2200.1 jbl amp.

quality_sound · 10-18-2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by negativezeroz

Good numbers for your DD. As for that Blazer with the Kickers, well DD is louder than Kicker. Period.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Period. When DD makes an 8 that'll do 150 get back to me. It's all about application. You take a good driver and install it like cran and you get...wait for it...crap. A marginal sub installed and tuned correctly will destroy a "better" sub that's been haphazardly tossed into a box.

lostdaytomorrow · 10-18-2007, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quality_sound

You have no idea what you're talking about. Period. When DD makes an 8 that'll do 150 get back to me. It's all about application. You take a good driver and install it like cran and you get...wait for it...crap. A marginal sub installed and tuned correctly will destroy a "better" sub that's been haphazardly tossed into a box.

Actually he knows his shit about car audio. His post was more of an opinion then fact. And I agree DD > Kicker

bikinpunk · 10-18-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostdaytomorrow

Actually he knows his shit about car audio.

so does QS.

Not saying negative's wrong, either.

I agree with QS. It's more about application. It's too blanket of a statement to say that Kicker > DD as a fact. Opinion is another thing.

lostdaytomorrow · 10-18-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikinpunk

so does QS.

Not saying negative's wrong, either.

I agree with QS. It's more about application. It's too blanket of a statement to say that Kicker > DD as a fact. Opinion is another thing.

Ok, well let's take this outside then.

Lostday + negative vs. QS + bikin

10-17-2007, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
mike11202 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sewell, NJ Posts: 350 Mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	Went to my first audio competition saturday They had a brand new out of the box TL.. they used the test to find my peak frequency and i think that probably drained out most of my power before burping scored 143.4 in stock class 1 15", sealed-up on dash, daily driver box the guy with 4 15 or 18" solo x's in a wall powered by 4 orion 2500's only hit 149.2 my 2nd try..

10-17-2007, 11:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
2007SiSedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 111 Anthony iTrader: 0 / 0%	Mike, I'm not bashing you in anyway. Sorry if I came off that way. 143 is tremendous for 1 15. Don't get me wrong. I was just saying if you have a DD sub its a badass sub. Not saying the blazer is better, was just saying that if the guy has all that in the blazer something is wrong. If it was mine and I hit that I would tear it down. But dude, please accept my apologies if I came off as if I was bashing you. I definitely didn't mean it that way. Mike also, can't get you pics of numbers cause I never take my camera to any comps. Heres a couple pics of the old setup: As you can see nothing special. Basically a fart box in the rear. Turned out I did not have enough power for the subs. Didn't want to add another 1500-1 as I didn't want to murder my alternator. I want to upgrade the factory alternator, but don't want Honda to say screw you when I go in for warranty work. I took a look at you profile and says you run the Fi 15. Never seen them in person but have looked at the videos on realmofexcursion.com. Sounds like a mean sub. When I was looking to rebuild I looked at DD, Fi, Re, and of course RF. Due to having a local dealer for RF I went back that way for warranty issues. Again man, my apologies for coming off as a prick if thats the way it seemed. Last edited by 2007SiSedan; 10-17-2007 at 11:40 PM.

10-18-2007, 10:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
NIGHTHAWKSI Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: long island Age: 22 Posts: 12,501 Ian iTrader: 12 / 100%	nice numbers. but i would have expected better from the guy with the solo x's. my last car i was very into sound competition and i had 2 12" L7's each in their own 2.25 cubic feet boxes and i hit 158 db. supporting that was teh OEM alternator (which i went through a few of during the time i owned the car,lol), a optima yellow top as a second battery, a 50 farad cap, and a bpx2200.1 jbl amp. Last edited by NIGHTHAWKSI; 10-18-2007 at 11:02 AM.

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*Utsaappt802* Needs HFP Kit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta Age: 27 Posts: 5,616 RyanT. iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yeah, but a few DB''s more means twice the sound no? Its been a while since I was last at one but my friend had 7 15"'s in an Integra and he used to pound out 170's Good Job on the 143 though

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negativezeroz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: OK Age: 20 Posts: 1,694 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Good numbers for your DD. As for that Blazer with the Kickers, well DD is louder than Kicker. Period. To Utsaappt802: I kinda don't believe your friend was hitting 170+dB in a DA/DC. As for gaining for dBs, for a theoretical 3dB gain you must double the power.

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2007SiSedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 111 Anthony iTrader: 0 / 0%	Something must be off in the blazer. This year I was able to score 148.8 on the dash with a TL. I only had 2 RF T1 15's running off a RF T1500-1bd. I have already tore my stuff down for the season and have dropped down to 2 12's, RF P3's to be exact. The new 07 model P3 subs are LOUD. I will be running the same amp, 2 RF P3 12's tuned to 45hz, Kinetik HC1400 battery, and a RF 25farad capacitor. I think the T1's could have achieved about 3db more. But I didn't want to double my power to get there. And if your running a DD sub, you should be able to pul more than 143 out of it. Those subs are badass and can handle some extreme abuse. negativezeroz, on the old audiocontrol systems, I can believe his friend was seeing a 170. The audiocontrols were way unaccurate. Thats why everyone has swithched to Termlab. I remember seeing a 151 off my old JL audio subs running off an old Kenwood 944 amp, max power at 2ohm was about 700 watts. That same setup today off the termlabs would probably score high 130's.

10-17-2007, 09:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
negativezeroz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: OK Age: 20 Posts: 1,694 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Well yes, TL's are the standard but most people don't have $400+ to spend on mic so he probably bought a cheap ass mic lol

10-17-2007, 10:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
mike11202 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sewell, NJ Posts: 350 Mike iTrader: 0 / 0%	143 is a very good legal score for a trunk car, the clinic test probably hurt my score alot, I hit 142.5 on the clinic 35/62 and 143.4 62/62 53hz 30 sec burp. I did not have my remote so i had to use the volume knob to go to full power. I made this thread to post my progress not to hear how all these people are better than me good for them, idc. 2007Si - Let's see some pics or proof of that score, don't just post it in words. Thanks for any support guys.

10-18-2007, 12:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
lostdaytomorrow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 712 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Awesome man, I bet it bangs.

10-18-2007, 12:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
lostdaytomorrow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 712 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Awesome man, I bet it bangs.

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Phlipcyde Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tempe, Az Age: 22 Posts: 236 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Sorry if you mentioned this earlier. But which amp are you using now, the nine.1 or that other 3kw amp? Either way thats an excellent score from a single 15 out of the trunk. Wish I could get metered with a TL up here, but no one has one in Alaska . Maybe when I head down to Phoenix this spring I can finally get metered.

10-18-2007, 01:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
jackolee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tennessee Age: 19 Posts: 3,218 iTrader: 0 / 0%	man id love to go to one of those and put in my super sub box and try it... not trying to brag but its pretty loud gives me a head ache so i turned the base to -4... but everyone that rides with me tries to turn base all the way up

10-18-2007, 09:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
bikinpunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Age: 25 Posts: 2,913 Erin iTrader: 3 / 100%	I'd like to get my w7 metered. It's tuned very low, but when I want to crank it up that thing still slams (and sounds oh-so-nice).