Updated OEM Navigation DVD info (merged)

[damack]

Is there a way to update the maps to europe? I'm taking a 06 civic with nav over and was hoping the nav would be able to be used over there. Any information would be appreciated.

[CameronJr9]

Originally Posted by damack

Is there a way to update the maps to europe? I'm taking a 06 civic with nav over and was hoping the nav would be able to be used over there. Any information would be appreciated.

From what I've seen, it won't work. The Euro Civic Navi discs and the North American Navis aren't compatible. Sorry.

[Intrepid175]

Now that's a bummer. Why in the world wouldn't it be the same underlying programming and just differnent maps? If true, it doesn't make sense to me!

[zeusma]

try Honda's DVD map NAVTEQ's website. maybe they'll have something. they have US maps for the Civic for $200 so i'm sure they'll have european maps too... just have to pay for their out of this world costs. Navteq - Maps for your Navigation System

[igotmysi]

is this the thread so u can watch movies on our oem navi system?

[CameronJr9]

Originally Posted by igotmysi

is this the thread so u can watch movies on our oem navi system?

Nope. But here it is.

DIY: OEM Navi Conversion to DVD Receiver/Etc.

[CameronJr9]

https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadv.../naviorder.php

2008 Update
Version 6.62
New Features
One way streets (indicated with arrows on the 1/20 mile scale - turn on in Icon Options - "Other icons")
Loss of male voice prompts (voice prompts revert to female - regardless of previous setup setting)
Additional brand icons for restaurants, motels and other POIs
Updated maps and POIs
Auto Daylight Savings Time switching per new 2007 (March/November) schedule

[Leonard1818]

I saw where someone asked about obtaining a copy of it and obviously that's illegal and they'll be banned from the site but I wonder if you have 2 vehicles with the same OEM navi, is it possible to even use a copy? I mean, it's just a regular DVD right? Or is it encrypted in some way that you can't copy it? If I had 2 Si's or an Si and a TSX/Accord both with navi, could I make a copy of the disc and use it in both vehicles?

[CameronJr9]

Originally Posted by Leonard1818

I saw where someone asked about obtaining a copy of it and obviously that's illegal and they'll be banned from the site but I wonder if you have 2 vehicles with the same OEM navi, is it possible to even use a copy? I mean, it's just a regular DVD right? Or is it encrypted in some way that you can't copy it? If I had 2 Si's or an Si and a TSX/Accord both with navi, could I make a copy of the disc and use it in both vehicles?

This DVD will only work in the Civic and CR-V. I believe it MAY work in the Acura CSX (The Civic's Canadian Sister). The DVD contains more than 7GB of info, so you'd have to copy the disc using dual-layer media.

Copying it for purposes of profit would be illegal, yes. You could theoretically copy it a couple of times for yourself and then sell the original on eBay or 8thCivic.

[Leonard1818]

Originally Posted by CameronJr9

This DVD will only work in the Civic and CR-V. I believe it MAY work in the Acura CSX (The Civic's Canadian Sister). The DVD contains more than 7GB of info, so you'd have to copy the disc using dual-layer media.

Copying it for purposes of profit would be illegal, yes. You could theoretically copy it a couple of times for yourself and then sell the original on eBay or 8thCivic.

Hmmmm, interesting to know. Thanks!

(fyi, I won't be doing any buying/copying of the disc since my area isn't updated anyway)

[Stylinhonda]

So do most people just spend the $180 or whatever it is each year for a new disc, or just obtain a burned copy? I need a new one bad.

[CameronJr9]

Originally Posted by Stylinhonda

So do most people just spend the $180 or whatever it is each year for a new disc, or just obtain a burned copy? I need a new one bad.

Right now, buying the disc for nearly $200 is about the only option. You might be able to find a copy on eBay from time to time. They usually go for about $90-$100. Just be sure to get the most updated version, 6.62A.

[CameronJr9]

I just purchased and installed the 6.62A version. It was the first update that actually seemed worth it to me. Although there were no POI or street updates listed for Kentucky, I actually found a newly constructed road near my mother-in-law on the DVD. I’m hopeful to find more small updates like that as I use the new disc. Two more things I can’t get enough of:
One-way streets are now indicated with arrows on the 1/20 mile scale (Icon Options - "Other icons") This is a huge help when driving in certain areas downtown where I'm not familiar.
Auto Daylight Savings Time is now updated for the new March/November schedule. No more pesky resetting of the clock twice a year.

I definitely think anyone with Navi should think about getting this upgraded disc. If you’re hesitant due to cost, check out eBay. Chances are you can find a 6.62A disc for cheaper than you can at Alpine.

[dut]

Just picked up my commuter '08 EX with Nav and my neighborhood ain't even showing up. The townhome I'm in was built in '04. Seems like this isn't going to help when I go searching for homes soon.

* Version 6.62 - Boo for Navteq

[CameronJr9]

Sorry to hear that, dut. Especially in San Diego.

[dut]

My G35 disc is fine, too bad they don't use the same disc.

Oh well, will wait for new disc I guess.

[vtloki]

stock navi sucks in terms of functionality.... i shouldn't have placed such a high value on that when i bought my SI.... Oh well, I do like the voice commands

[CameronJr9]

Originally Posted by vtloki

stock navi sucks in terms of functionality.... i shouldn't have placed such a high value on that when i bought my SI.... Oh well, I do like the voice commands

Care to explain? I hate to assume, but you just might not be doing something right.

[Intrepid175]

Originally Posted by CameronJr9

Care to explain? I hate to assume, but you just might not be doing something right.

I'm not the one you're asking but I'd like to offer an answer anyway. I've gotten some good sevice out of the factory GPS but I've found it limited in the way it routes for longer trips. I can force the route I want by adding waypoints but it took a while to figure out how to do that. It's not intuative, IMO. I've also had problems finding some roads in the database. What's in the DVD isn't always what the road is called locally. I've tried many variations and on more than one occasion, simply couldn't get the system to accept what I was looking for. I've also tried using the "find" function, such as, "find nearest gas station" and got routed through a very old neighborhood and onto a dead end road on which there was no gas station. Nor was they any evidence visible that there ever was a gas station at that location.

The system is Ok, but only just. I like the "built in" look of the factory installation but the aftermarket systems offer much more flexibility for a lot less money.

JMO, FWIW!
Drive Safe,
Steve R.

[C17chief]

Originally Posted by Intrepid175

I'm not the one you're asking but I'd like to offer an answer anyway. I've gotten some good sevice out of the factory GPS but I've found it limited in the way it routes for longer trips. I can force the route I want by adding waypoints but it took a while to figure out how to do that. It's not intuative, IMO. I've also had problems finding some roads in the database. What's in the DVD isn't always what the road is called locally. I've tried many variations and on more than one occasion, simply couldn't get the system to accept what I was looking for. I've also tried using the "find" function, such as, "find nearest gas station" and got routed through a very old neighborhood and onto a dead end road on which there was no gas station. Nor was they any evidence visible that there ever was a gas station at that location.

The system is Ok, but only just. I like the "built in" look of the factory installation but the aftermarket systems offer much more flexibility for a lot less money.

JMO, FWIW!
Drive Safe,
Steve R.

I have to agree there. It works fine as in it will get you where you are going, but it certainly could do a better job in routing. the 2 biggest gripes I have about routing....

1) ANY mode seems to place way too much emphasis on interstates and freeways. Even using the direct mode, it will still take you miles out of the way just to jump on an interstate or freeway for a bit rather then use normal state backroad highways. In comparison, the old (antiquated now actually) HK traffic Pro I have in my pickup does the other extreme as it will route doing the absolute no shiat shortest route even if it means cruising through residential areas or stair stepping city blocks. I'd rather have the traffic pro's extreme over our nav's over emphasis of major roads. It sorta defeats the purpose of having a direct mode if it's still gunna send you to nothing but major roads anyways.

2) the limit toll roads mode doesnt seem effective at all. for example here in NJ, I-295, a normal free interstate, pretty much parallels the NJ turnpike, at no more then a mile apart at the most throughout most of it. Even with the limit toll road option, the civic's nav still wants to always put me on the turnpike even if it is like .5mi longer on a 20mi route using free I-295. That annoys me. Again with my traffic pro comparison, when you select no tolls on it, it totally ignores those roads like they didnt exist, even if taking a free route takes you miles and miles longer.

When it comes to POI's....they implimented that VERY poorly as well. Of course none are going to have every place around and none of the ones that closed up shop, but for what the civic's nav does have, it is so poorly organized that it is all but useless. Like say you are in an unfamiliar city doing some shopping and want to find the nearest say Office Depot or something...a chain you know exists everywhere. Half the time you punch something like that in you may get the closest match being like 600mi away depending on how you enter it. It's like there is no standard in the database cause Office Depot will give you a set of matches, OfficeDepot another different set, Office depot Inc. another, and so on. You often have to make up to 4 or 5 attempts to get anything nearby unless you just happen to guess the way the nearby one is inputed in the POI database before exhausting your possibilities. It would be SO much more effective if they went through and at least standardized at least the major nationwide chains for stores, gas, resteraunts, etc so they come up as intended vs second guessing all the different possible itterations of their names.