difference between a dyno tune and eTune??

[MugenTSX06]

been wanting to tune my car but wanting to know the difference between the 2 before i make a decision are they both any on hp range and tuning? or both would be the same

[sofakingfresh]

oh boy, here we go.

[chatttownstunna]

Originally Posted by sofakingfresh

oh boy, here we go.

[Strate L O S S]

1 costs $500 and has no part throttle tuning, but maxes out HP (assuming they do it correct).

The other costs $200 and is near close to a dyno tune but includes part throttle.


pick your poison

[MugenTSX06]

yeah thats the knowledge i had but i was seeing what other thought comparing a dyno tune is 500 here in town just wanted to know experiences from other 8th geners

[MugenTSX06]

no need t bash just needed input

[darkyosho]

Someone did an e-tune and later did a dyno run. The dyno yielded a few more HP and TQ but not worth the cost difference. I think it was 2-4HP and TQ. If you pay for the $200 e-tune they tune part throttle for fuel efficiency. E-tune is a win in my book.

[Strate L O S S]

Originally Posted by MugenTSX06

no need t bash just needed input

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I wasn't trying to bash at all, not you or dyno tuners or e-tuners.

It's just that for real dyno tuning doesn't really do part throttle tuning, but it does give you max power assuming the tuner knows what they're doing.

E-tuning can and can't give you close to max power based off prior knowledge and effiency readings and such but does wonders for part throttle.

IMO I'd get an e-tune first, then a dyno tune later on to max out and fine tune WOT.

that's ideal.

[sik20fan]

Do yourself a favor and send 200$ to Vit from e-tunez and don't look back.

[Asif22]

Honestly, my friend has an ported JRSC and full bolt ons on his 8thgen. We hang out a good bit so I see/ride in his car a lot...His car was e tuned by Vit. I always thought dyno tunes were "better" and I don't know much about tuning but his car starts, drives, idles...PERFECT. The powerband is so smooth, it makes awesome power, and is super reliable. I would bet money even a really good dyno tune couldn't pull more power out of the car. To top it off another S/C Si I know has a vit tune and tuns perfect. We got into a huge argument with a few locals because they ALWAYS make fun of e tunes and try to get us to go to their local dyno tuner. They say we are cheap typical Honda kids blah blah.. They are like the illuminati just trying to push their ideas on you and take your money and put it where they want .But you know what? I have flashpro for my S2K with header/exhaust. Once I get a better exhaust and intake I'm going to see if I can get vit to tune it. I plan to do a NOVI 1200 blower too down the line. If I do, I'm still going to ask him to tune it. Seeing how the Si's ran was all the evidence I needed.

[Strate L O S S]

s2k ? tune that thing yourself it doesn't have VTC lol

[Asif22]

Originally Posted by Strate L O S S

s2k ? tune that thing yourself it doesn't have VTC lol

Thats exactly what my friend told me. hahaha. No VTC makes it much simpler

Wish this motor had VTC. When the s2k first came out it was fast but then everything got faster and honda did nothing lol. 2.2 motor with like the same power. If you are gonna make a whole new engine make it worth it LOL

I actually wish I had an ap1. I love the 9k rev limit. Can't do that with an f22

[b.r.i.a.n.]

Originally Posted by Strate L O S S

1 costs $500 and has no part throttle tuning, but maxes out HP (assuming they do it correct).

The other costs $200 and is near close to a dyno tune but includes part throttle.


pick your poison

Originally Posted by Strate L O S S

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I wasn't trying to bash at all, not you or dyno tuners or e-tuners.

It's just that for real dyno tuning doesn't really do part throttle tuning, but it does give you max power assuming the tuner knows what they're doing.

E-tuning can and can't give you close to max power based off prior knowledge and effiency readings and such but does wonders for part throttle.

IMO I'd get an e-tune first, then a dyno tune later on to max out and fine tune WOT.

that's ideal.

you can tune part throttle on the dyno just fine. you just have to have the correct dyno to do so. you're generalizing. there are people out there who do half ass work as well as others who do great work. doesn't mean that everyone who tunes on the dyno doesn't bother to dial in the part throttle portion of the map.

Originally Posted by Asif22

Thats exactly what my friend told me. hahaha. No VTC makes it much simpler

Wish this motor had VTC. When the s2k first came out it was fast but then everything got faster and honda did nothing lol. 2.2 motor with like the same power. If you are gonna make a whole new engine make it worth it LOL

I actually wish I had an ap1. I love the 9k rev limit. Can't do that with an f22

ehh you can still rev out the f22. i'm revving out my ap1 to 9200 lol.

[bulliedog]

Originally Posted by Strate L O S S

1 costs $500 and has no part throttle tuning, but maxes out HP (assuming they do it correct).

The other costs $200 and is near close to a dyno tune but includes part throttle.


pick your poison

Thats not true. Tuners that use Dynapacks can do part throttle. Any dyno machine that can put a load on the car can do part throttle tuning. After a dyno tune they can take the car on the road and street tune for part throttle to your driving habits.

[w00t692]

While true, you still end up with better results tuning while on the street.

real world > simulated.... every time.

Although doing part throttle on a dyno that can load up the car will probably make pretty fuel curves.

[b.r.i.a.n.]

Originally Posted by w00t692

While true, you still end up with better results tuning while on the street.

real world > simulated.... every time.

Although doing part throttle on a dyno that can load up the car will probably make pretty fuel curves.

but fuel is only part of the equation. how the hell am i supposed to dial in ignition timing on the street? am i supposed to rely on the butt dyno? lol

[Strate L O S S]

touché

[w00t692]

Originally Posted by b.r.i.a.n.

but fuel is only part of the equation. how the hell am i supposed to dial in ignition timing on the street? am i supposed to rely on the butt dyno? lol

I never said all sides of the equation were golden

so many times when messing with my car street tuning it do i wish i could slap it on a dyno and dial my ignition timing in. Granted, i doubt my ignition timing is very far off, but it certainly isn't dyno verified.

[Bugermass]

these threads crack me up.. If you search through here, I'm pretty sure I've proven this point before.. eTunes are good if there are no competent tuners in your area. They get the car running smoothly and most of the time safely. But NOTHING beats a proper dyno tune by a tuner who knows what hes doing and who actually cares about doing his job well. The problem is there are too many wanna beez out there that know just enough to convince you to give them your money.. Unfortunately that can ruin the dyno tuning experience. So if your on a budget or don't have access to a KNOWN PROVEN competent tuner, then yes a etune is the way to go. Even then, there are a few etuners out there that are just as bad as poor dyno tuners. I can't tell you how many maps I've seen that were complete crap from both dyno tuners AND etuners.

Anyways.. ;P

[MugenTSX06]

Well I dyno 212 whp on injen cai s2 header mp s2 76mm exh helix tbs 68 mm tb s2 manifold s2 fuel rail with Rdx injectors and net pulley kit I think is low numbers but this tuner knows his k motor since his track shop car has a k swap in it and runs 10s at track or lower all day and only making 250whp