Hondata Flashpro Chat thread

[UnlimitedSi]

Originally Posted by raycl

I had a coupe with all the bolt on expect for reflash. I now have the Mugen with the T1R, CT shorty, RT cat,
flashpro and this car drives like the coupe. I can bark third again.

I can't wait... I went with a custom test pipe with my shorty though. I never modded my coupe... it was sold in pristine condition. Only thing I ever did was upgrade to 225's.

[CrazyQuady]

Looking thru all these threads.., Are all the base calibrations that are for a race header include high flow cat? No base calibrations for cat-delete race headers? Or is this such a small change that it doesnt make much of a difference?

[UnlimitedSi]

Great ? man...

I simply deduced that all of the base maps are street legal applications. I know I know... MAP is considered "race" but that's all I can come up with logically.

Guess what just showed up! My paypal debit card, FAIL!!!!

[CrazyQuady]

yeah thats most likely why. Im still not fully understanding wether or not i should be using the MAF or MAP calibrations. Im kinda thinking its not going to make much of a diff if im not F/I or dyno tuned.?.

[dany08fa]

ok i need to get this flashpro!
i've been wanting it for a while, prolly order by the end of this month

just hopefully it's as easy to use as you guys make it sound.
i was watching the youtube vids of the hondata guy explaining flashpro and how to use it and i didin't even really know what he was talking about. =P

[2RotorMotor]

Originally Posted by dany08fa

ok i need to get this flashpro!
i've been wanting it for a while, prolly order by the end of this month

just hopefully it's as easy to use as you guys make it sound.
i was watching the youtube vids of the hondata guy explaining flashpro and how to use it and i didin't even really know what he was talking about. =P

if you are just going to get it and select a premade map then yea it isnt too hard, but tuning is something that should be down by somebody knowledgeable in order to take full advantage of the product and yeild the best results. If you dont know what you are doing chances are that you will make you car run worse...

[dany08fa]

i didn't even know that had the premade maps until i got on this thread.

that's probably what i'll do until i get some more mods.
then i'll take it to the dyno.

seems that's what everyone's been recommending.

[galaxygrey13]

Thats exactly what I did and car runs great

[danielg]

What kind of A/F is everyone seeing with a flashpro base map at WOT?

[rmendez19]

Can someone help me out by explaining the difference in the AFM Calibration with the Stock Equivalent, Completley Stock (tune) and the MAP based stock tune. I already know that the MAP tune will not make my oil life guage work. I was looking to see which is the best for a stock car for now until I have the time to install my bolt ons. I just want to test a stock car with a FlashPro before mods. Also, I see in the calibrations selections everything has a stock catback with the tunes. Is this ok to run even if im going to run a Greddy exhaust?

[danielg]

Originally Posted by rmendez19

Can someone help me out by explaining the difference in the AFM Calibration with the Stock Equivalent, Completley Stock (tune) and the MAP based stock tune. I already know that the MAP tune will not make my oil life guage work. I was looking to see which is the best for a stock car for now until I have the time to install my bolt ons. I just want to test a stock car with a FlashPro before mods. Also, I see in the calibrations selections everything has a stock catback with the tunes. Is this ok to run even if im going to run a Greddy exhaust?

I asked the same question earlier in this thread. Basically, i went with the MAP option. It seems to give more power and more flexability when tuning....

The nitty griddy details i dont remember...it wasnt important for my brain to remember the differences so i guess i already forgot the details these past two days...

[Nighthawk07]

I just got my flashpro today, using the map tune for injen cai, race header, HF cat, even though I have a greddy catback. Seems to work well. Only changes I made was setting my 2-step at 4000, and lowering vtec to 4500, not sure if that accomplished anything but it feels good.

Also I datalogged a little bit to see my AFR's and its about 13ish around full throttle, and knock level percent climbed up to 75% in the higher rpms, is this okay?

[w00t692]

that is fine. Because i remember seeing in another thread the threshhold is 80%

[Hondata]

Originally Posted by rmendez19

Can someone help me out by explaining the difference in the AFM Calibration with the Stock Equivalent, Completley Stock (tune) and the MAP based stock tune. I already know that the MAP tune will not make my oil life guage work. I was looking to see which is the best for a stock car for now until I have the time to install my bolt ons. I just want to test a stock car with a FlashPro before mods. Also, I see in the calibrations selections everything has a stock catback with the tunes. Is this ok to run even if im going to run a Greddy exhaust?

- Stock Equivalent gives you a map with the same values you find in a stock computer.
- Stock Tuned (AFM) optimizes the ignition, cam angle, fuel and VTEC point. Injector overrun cutoff (rev hang) is pretty much eliminated.
- Stock Tuned MAP does all the above but has the FD2 throttle map for better response. In addition the cam angle on the MAP tune can be advanced to 50 degrees. MAF calibrations only have a maximum advance of 45 degrees. (this is the default Honda setting) You will need a race header or supercharger for a cam advance of 50 degrees to be used though. Therefore you can make a little more midrange power and torque with the MAP calibration.

The stock tuned maps give additional power and torque across pretty much the entire rev range.

[liquidr1]

wow, i love how all of a sudden there is total aftermarket support for the Si.

i just watched the Swift Racing turbo Si vid on youtube after being tuned with flashpro and all i can say is simply AMAZING. The car runs flawlessly. Just like it came from Honda with a factory turbo.

[danielg]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk07

I just got my flashpro today, using the map tune for injen cai, race header, HF cat, even though I have a greddy catback. Seems to work well. Only changes I made was setting my 2-step at 4000, and lowering vtec to 4500, not sure if that accomplished anything but it feels good.

Also I datalogged a little bit to see my AFR's and its about 13ish around full throttle, and knock level percent climbed up to 75% in the higher rpms, is this okay?

I am using the exact same map and i actually have the stock exhaust with injen cai and race header/high flow cat...so i must be identical to you minus the exhaust. Feels good..I didnt change a thing except the launch limiter.

i am debating whether or not to lower the lower vtec from 4750 to 4500 or so as well but then i started looking at the other maps and it looks like Hondata goes from 4350 (car without race header) to 4750 on maps designed for a car with a race header.... i wonder if there is a specific reason for this... i dont want to lower it, if in fact it is making better power at 4750 cause i have a race header...

[NitrousG35]

Originally Posted by Hondata

- Stock Equivalent gives you a map with the same values you find in a stock computer.
- Stock Tuned (AFM) optimizes the ignition, cam angle, fuel and VTEC point. Injector overrun cutoff (rev hang) is pretty much eliminated.
- Stock Tuned MAP does all the above but has the FD2 throttle map for better response. In addition the cam angle on the MAP tune can be advanced to 50 degrees. MAF calibrations only have a maximum advance of 45 degrees. (this is the default Honda setting) You will need a race header or supercharger for a cam advance of 50 degrees to be used though. Therefore you can make a little more midrange power and torque with the MAP calibration.

The stock tuned maps give additional power and torque across pretty much the entire rev range.

Doug or Derek, thanks for the update. This explains why I have noticed changes in throttle response as well as a tremendous amount of torque and power in the midrange. To be honest, the FlashPro MAP setting I am running has given the greatest improvement yet to my car.

I first did a Vibrant cat-back and noticed a nice little gain. Added a Vibrant race header and things began to wake up. Then, I did a custom cowl induction intake with cone filter as well as an M&M scoop. This really got the car going. However all of the mods pale in comparison to the MAP setting I am running [Injen CAI with rh and hfc.]

My car has power where I really need it without having to bang redline to get what I want. Right now power when passing, entering freeways and coming off turns is what I appreciate the most. As it stands, my car would be tremendously fun on a tight road course. I can only imagine what cams will do in the future.

[b.r.i.a.n.]

Originally Posted by danielg

I am using the exact same map and i actually have the stock exhaust with injen cai and race header/high flow cat...so i must be identical to you minus the exhaust. Feels good..I didnt change a thing except the launch limiter.

i am debating whether or not to lower the lower vtec from 4750 to 4500 or so as well but then i started looking at the other maps and it looks like Hondata goes from 4350 (car without race header) to 4750 on maps designed for a car with a race header.... i wonder if there is a specific reason for this... i dont want to lower it, if in fact it is making better power at 4750 cause i have a race header...

once you start tuning individual cam angles at full throttle you start seeing a pattern develop. it's easier seen in 2d. you'll dial in the afr's where you want them and you'll see a pattern in the way fuel is being delivered.

if you study those fuel curves you can get an idea of where it is you're making the torque and where you're not. it should give you an idea of where more or less the vtec point should be set.

but from my own personal experience, depending on the setup the vtec point is either high or low. for your basic i/h/e bolt on mods i've seen really well flowing setups with vtec points as low as 3500. while i've seen others with a restrictive header or intake or both that like a vtec point higher up in the rpm range.

[baila001]

I just got back from installing mine and i must say the car is noticeably quicker. It breaks traction throughout 1st gear flooring it from around 3000 and the car revs quicker. A/f was around 13.-13.3 WOT and around 14.7 cruising on the laptop screen. Car feels much better. I used MAP based tuning for the k&n v2 and header.

[FBFG]

Are there any Flash Pros still available?