Mazdaspeed3, GTI 4-door, & Si Sedan Dyno Test

[Moisted]

Anyone else notice the line in the dyno test comparison article about SI's DBW throttle: "...the Civic Si's drive-by-wire throttle is so slow to respond that you can literally press the throttle to the floor and release it without any response."

Damn the DBW...

[skittleslegend]

Originally Posted by Moisted

Anyone else notice the line in the dyno test comparison article about SI's DBW throttle: "...the Civic Si's drive-by-wire throttle is so slow to respond that you can literally press the throttle to the floor and release it without any response."

Damn the DBW...

I think that's more pre-production bug than nything of concern. I had this discussion with someone else earlier.

[Moisted]

Originally Posted by skittleslegend

I think that's more pre-production bug than nything of concern. I had this discussion with someone else earlier.

? ... have you not read all the threads here about Rev Hang problems, hesitation during shifts, throttle lagging, the reflash from Honda for the 06s that doesn't completely resolve the problem....

All courtesy of Honda's obsession with DBW to lower emission.

I hear the problem is still there on 07s: 07Si...with pic goodness!

[Izzy]

It's not quite that bad, Moisted. I notice it, but I find that just shifting either slowly to let the RPMs fall, or quickly so the gears make the RPM drop does fine. I do notice the RPM hang ONLY when gassing. When I have my foot off the gas and press in the clutch to downshift when exiting a freeway, the revs drop nearly instantaneously.

[atruhondagrl]

Originally Posted by skittleslegend

I bought the new issue of Automobile magazine and there's a story on all three cars (not THIS story, but a seperate glance at all three cars). Of the three, I like the MS3 the least. I don't care for the exterior at all. I prefer the simplicity of the 3i. The GTI has the best looking wheels, and the Si has the best looking profile. I really tried to get into the MS3, but in that dark gray color with the played out clear taillights, I really disliked it (incidentally the dark gray color will probably be my color of choice on the Si if I don't sway the other way).

It's only played out on repeated bodystyles. The SI didn't come with it. I think the SI and the RSX-s would both have looked amazing in silverstone.

THe MS3 just makes me think of Former Tuner Kiddie Hurder.

[skittleslegend]

Originally Posted by Moisted

? ... have you not read all the threads here about Rev Hang problems, hesitation during shifts, throttle lagging, the reflash from Honda for the 06s that doesn't completely resolve the problem....

All courtesy of Honda's obsession with DBW to lower emission.

I hear the problem is still there on 07s: 07Si...with pic goodness!

Did it ever occur to anyone that not everyone has had issues with the DBW????

[CivicWithNav]

187WHP from 197 crank hp? thats a very small loss

pretty amazing.. i guess lack of power steering does help out a little

no torque BOOO lol

[BLU BY U]

yay another useless article where the si gets matched with f/i vehicles.

[PWP_6MT]

Originally Posted by LunchBoxed

I'm not that impressed with the MS3's dyno stats. I had been hearing nothing except great things about this car and its performance.

I don't like how limited its range is. I would hate to have to shift before redline in order to stay in the peak power ranges of my ride.

Yeah.

It doesn't sound as thrilling as, say, Civic Si's engine.

The Si engine is a jewel.