Berks HFC vs stock

[98koukile]

I've been looking at getting this for my car but there really isn't a ton of information about it. I don't want a header and I don't want exhaust so this would be my only mod in that department. With a flashpro and intake mods would I see gains or just noise? I'm looking for roughly 200whp, don't really need much more for a DD. Again, I don't want a header, so this is it or nothing.

[mike_si_29]

Berk is much more free flowing compare to OEM. Also, Berk is very well made. I run it on my car for about 2 years and had zero issues. They use magnaflow 200 cell catalytic converter I believe. It didnt melt or anything. As far as gains, you will see some but its hard to know for sure since each car and setup are slightly different.

[higher being]

Your gonna need more than the high flow cat to see around 200 HP.

[98koukile]

I understand that, I'm almost at sea level where I live and we have 93 octane here which helps a bit with a good tune and I'll soon be installing an rrc, tsx tb, and already have an ice box intake with hps tube. Considering I know people who dyno between 190-195 just from flashpro and intake I have high hopes of at least getting close. That was just a ball park figure, I don't pipe dream, just want a goal.

[iCivicSi08]

I am also interested in this product. I want to know if its capable of hooking up to a cat-delete header, for instance a vibrant header and if there would be any complications with it as I want a vibrant header/exhaust for my fg2

[mike_si_29]

Originally Posted by higher being

Your gonna need more than the high flow cat to see around 200 HP.

I never tested it on NA setup since I was SC since I bought a car; so I can only speak from FI stand point. NA header is gonna be different compare to SC. From what i found, CT header+ Berk hfc gained more in midrange compare to KRRH with 2.5" magnaflow 200 cell cat. There is a graph that i posted a long time from Berk. They tested one s2k with test pipe, and another one with the cat. It only lost 2 hp or something like this. The cat that Berk uses is pretty high flowing lol and very reliable. I would be more concern about NA setup since its 2.75-3-2.75" pipe. I wish somebody with NA setup tested CT header+ Berk hfc... that would be cool.

Originally Posted by iCivicSi08

I am also interested in this product. I want to know if its capable of hooking up to a cat-delete header, for instance a vibrant header and if there would be any complications with it as I want a vibrant header/exhaust for my fg2

The only setup you can run with Berk is shorty header. Berk hfc isnt a small test pipe... it replaces your stock cat piece. So it will be your stock header (any other shorty.. CT or other) + Berk HFC.... bolted to your exhaust. Hope it make sense lol.

[w00t692]

^^ never take propaganda dynos for reality. A cat is very restrictive on the s2k, literally any catalytic converter at all on an s2k is the difference between being able to run vtec down to 4200 rpms... or having to run it at 5000 rpms.

It's a HUGE difference. Peak power might be similar, but midrange will always suffer.

[rcv86]

Just stick with your stock headers. I think its not worth the money.

[98koukile]

So for $200 this Isnt a worth while mod? Alright then, guess it'll just be stock exhaust for me.

[Gabo]

Im on a ct-shorty header with a random tech hfc and stock exhaust. It makes a difference. The midrange its excellent. By midrange I mean the 2500rpm to 5000 rpm. At $200 the berk its a steal. I would get it.

[itzpjay]

where is it priced for $200?

[mcwu]

I have the berk with the megan shorty header. I personaly love that thing. Its a quality piece and you can definitely feel a difference. I don't have catback. Went back to stock catback.

[98koukile]

Good to hear from someone with actual experience. I'm still up in the air, how's the sound with it? Deeper but not much louder?

[mcwu]

Its hard to say because i have the boomba torque mounts... I use to have the krrh with a hi-flow cat paired with the t1r dolphin. Its definitely quieter. Still pretty deep though.

[BLouIsGod]

I have a shorty header, berk dp, and q300 exhaust. I love it. Doesn't smell.


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[dohcfa5]

I just installed the Berk 3" Test pipe and I must say I like it. Here's why I like it; simple to install and UNINSTALL when smog comes. Best test pipe to have since its the only one on the market ( as far as I know...) that is 3" . It bolts right up to my stock header and stock midpipe.

Power is definitely little to nothing according to my butt dyno.. So if you are looking for power this is NOT the way to go, of course all 8thcivic members know this.









Here is to compare the weight between berk and cat




and how it looks like after the install.


Just wanted to share this mod with the OP. I didn't get the High flow version because I figure, whats the point. HFC might yeild close to no performance. If I needed a cat for smog for example, its a simple swap. Thats the reason why I went this route in the first place.

[dohcfa5]

O I forgot to mention, I didnt get a shorty header because according to my research, the stock shorty flows jsut as good as an aftermarket one. If the aftermarket shorty is better its only marginally better def not worth the $$$. So i stick with this.

[98koukile]

Thanks for the info. I'd like to do a dyno of before and after but I really don't feel like paying for two tunes, maybe I can get berks to front one if it adds to publicity. I don't think this would be worth it for one or two hp but anything over five might be acceptable especially throughout the power band. Still undecided

[Gabo]

According to a test and tune on honda tunning (If memory serves me well) you pick up anywhere from 5-10hp deleting the cat.

[glxygreysi08]

Deleting the cat does little good without a good race header. There was a member on here who gained 1-2 HP top end and lost low end (it's a CT shorty header thread). The stock cat flows very well.