All encompassing Mother of all race header threads - Page 3

cuzzybubba1 · 08-19-2009, 08:50 PM

Edit* - I'm blind...

redline8500 · 08-19-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousG35

A shorty header is just that. It is like stock. A race header has much longer primaries that feed into either secondary tubes, or a collector. A race header can either be 4-2-1 or 4-1. I would tell you to look at the pics, but unfortunately, I exceeded my bandwidth on Photobucket and my pics will not be restored until the 24th of this month.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuzzybubba1

Hey Bill,

As an FYI some of the pics on the 1st page are not working.

fre$h si · 08-19-2009, 09:34 PM

u guys think that the kiddracing actually peforms as well as ssr thou?

gtracer · 08-20-2009, 12:36 AM

1. Name of header: Skunk2 Race Header (first gen, with only 1 O2 bung.)

2. Price you paid: $757.14 US. Got it from Exclerate Performance

3. Impressions you have-installation, driving and sound: Install was great. It fits really nicely and the quality of the Header is very impressive for a mass produced item. It doesn't hit anywhere even though its a tight fit. (Side note, I have Boomba Engine mounts.) I haven't put it on the dyno but it definitively improved the power in the mid-range and very top end. To give you an Idea, I remember when it was stock, it would struggle to get up to the rev-limiter in 5th and when I would hit it, it would bounce back down to 212km/h and take everything to get back up. Now, it really has that extra power and guts. I can keep it bouncing on the rev-limiter (not that I do it) and I wont lose speed. The sound, well, it sounds like a race car. Or a superbike or an F1.

4. Any threads you have made: Nope.
5. Any videos you have: Nope
6. Any dyno graphs you have: Nope

If you have any questions, don't be shy.

List of mods that can have something to do with the previous: AEM CAI, Skunk2 Header, Skunk2 70mm. I also have boomba engine mounts which is supposed to eliminate header "hitting"

***NitrousG35*** · 08-20-2009, 12:56 AM

^ Thanks, added your comments!

Bboy_Burst · 08-20-2009, 05:26 AM

1. Name of header - Buddy Club Race Header
2. Price you paid - Free (I borrowed it from Mad Monkey)
3. Impressions you have-installation, driving and sound - Installation was easy. The only gains I felt was in VTEC. It sounds OK.
4. Any threads you have made - None
5. Any videos you have - None
6. Any dyno graphs you have - None

ebdiam · 08-20-2009, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fre$h si

u guys think that the kiddracing actually peforms as well as ssr thou?

Bboy_Burst · 08-20-2009, 05:50 AM

^^ for a close to stock car, yes

Bboy_Burst · 08-20-2009, 06:14 AM

1. Name of header - Six Sigma Racing 4-1 Race Header
2. Price you paid - $706.88

(Don't ask)
3. Impressions you have-installation, driving and sound - Danny (the guy who made my header) installed it for me. The installation seems complicated; had to lower the sub frame. I later found out, an easier way to install the header without lowering the sub frame. Also, the Primary O2 Sensor needs to be extended because the header doesn't come together until towards the end. I didn't really felt any gains, maybe because I was already used to how it feels like having a Race Header on the car. Another reason is probably because it's a 4-1 Race Header built for 9K+ RPM. As for sound, it's louder than the Buddy Club Race Header that I had on the car before, both at idle and driving. It is also the BEST sounding Race Header I've heard to date. It has a deep & aggressive sound.
4. Any threads you have made - Yes, but it got deleted

5. Any videos you have - Yes, SSR RH + Skunk2 70mm fly by.

I will try to make one today with just the Race Header only

6. Any dyno graphs you have - Yes, a comparison of stock exhaust (Blue) vs open header (Red).

cuzzybubba1 · 08-20-2009, 10:39 AM

Nice.

fre$h si · 08-20-2009, 03:04 PM

edit...

Bboy_Burst · 08-20-2009, 04:59 PM

^^ SSR makes both 4-1 & 4-2-1 Headers. The guy can make a custom Race Header for your setup. I ordered the 4-1 Race Header because I have plans in the future to have a built motor that revs to 9K+ rpm.

btw, you didn't have to quote the whole post.

fre$h si · 08-20-2009, 05:06 PM

lol i know my bad i was in a rush at the time, but ow ok i didnt know they made both thanks for the info

Bboy_Burst · 08-20-2009, 05:41 PM

^^ yea, SSR makes both style header. the KiddRacing Header is identical to the SSR and as i've state in previous post, they will probably performs the same if you have a near stock engine. if someone is on a budget, KiddRacing is probably the way to go. if you have plans for a built motor, SSR is the better deal.

fre$h si · 08-20-2009, 05:53 PM

but whyd u go from ssr to BC? and i mite be mistaken but didnt u have a s2 also?

Bboy_Burst · 08-20-2009, 06:17 PM

no, i had BCRH for a month, i borrowed it from my friend. then later, i bought the SSR. never had the S2.

fre$h si · 08-20-2009, 06:19 PM

o i see,
i guess i gotta save up that cash

rizzoSi · 08-24-2009, 09:11 PM

ok so i need a header that can pass emissions. i have a greddy ti-c cat back and a password jdm intake.. someone please help me out. i have searched this thread but havent really gotten a direct answer as to what my best bet is with a header that can pass emissions still. im in illinois. frickin tough to pass emissions!

fre$h si · 08-24-2009, 09:16 PM

only a comptech or megan shorty header will let u pass RH will always delete the cat

rizzoSi · 08-24-2009, 09:27 PM

will i still get good performance by using a shorty header? also wont i need to get a downpipe then?

08-19-2009, 08:50 PM	#41 (permalink)
cuzzybubba1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Central FL Age: 30 Posts: 4,916 Jason	Edit* - I'm blind... Last edited by cuzzybubba1; 08-20-2009 at 10:38 AM.

08-20-2009, 12:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
gtracer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 462 Nick	1. Name of header: Skunk2 Race Header (first gen, with only 1 O2 bung.) 2. Price you paid: $757.14 US. Got it from Exclerate Performance 3. Impressions you have-installation, driving and sound: Install was great. It fits really nicely and the quality of the Header is very impressive for a mass produced item. It doesn't hit anywhere even though its a tight fit. (Side note, I have Boomba Engine mounts.) I haven't put it on the dyno but it definitively improved the power in the mid-range and very top end. To give you an Idea, I remember when it was stock, it would struggle to get up to the rev-limiter in 5th and when I would hit it, it would bounce back down to 212km/h and take everything to get back up. Now, it really has that extra power and guts. I can keep it bouncing on the rev-limiter (not that I do it) and I wont lose speed. The sound, well, it sounds like a race car. Or a superbike or an F1. 4. Any threads you have made: Nope. 5. Any videos you have: Nope 6. Any dyno graphs you have: Nope If you have any questions, don't be shy. List of mods that can have something to do with the previous: AEM CAI, Skunk2 Header, Skunk2 70mm. I also have boomba engine mounts which is supposed to eliminate header "hitting" Last edited by gtracer; 08-20-2009 at 01:13 AM.

08-20-2009, 03:04 PM	#51 (permalink)
fre$h si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston Mass Age: 23 Posts: 6,549	edit... Last edited by fre$h si; 08-20-2009 at 05:06 PM.

08-20-2009, 04:59 PM	#52 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 25 Posts: 4,722 Ku	^^ SSR makes both 4-1 & 4-2-1 Headers. The guy can make a custom Race Header for your setup. I ordered the 4-1 Race Header because I have plans in the future to have a built motor that revs to 9K+ rpm. btw, you didn't have to quote the whole post. Last edited by Bboy_Burst; 08-20-2009 at 05:02 PM.

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08-19-2009, 09:34 PM	#43 (permalink)
fre$h si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston Mass Age: 23 Posts: 6,549	u guys think that the kiddracing actually peforms as well as ssr thou?

08-20-2009, 12:56 AM	#45 (permalink)
*NitrousG35* Join Date: May 2007 Location: To Infiniti and beyond... Posts: 19,591 Never Again!	^ Thanks, added your comments!

08-20-2009, 05:26 AM	#46 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 25 Posts: 4,722 Ku	1. Name of header - Buddy Club Race Header 2. Price you paid - Free (I borrowed it from Mad Monkey) 3. Impressions you have-installation, driving and sound - Installation was easy. The only gains I felt was in VTEC. It sounds OK. 4. Any threads you have made - None 5. Any videos you have - None 6. Any dyno graphs you have - None

08-20-2009, 05:50 AM	#48 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 25 Posts: 4,722 Ku	^^ for a close to stock car, yes

08-20-2009, 06:14 AM	#49 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 25 Posts: 4,722 Ku	1. Name of header - Six Sigma Racing 4-1 Race Header 2. Price you paid - $706.88 (Don't ask) 3. Impressions you have-installation, driving and sound - Danny (the guy who made my header) installed it for me. The installation seems complicated; had to lower the sub frame. I later found out, an easier way to install the header without lowering the sub frame. Also, the Primary O2 Sensor needs to be extended because the header doesn't come together until towards the end. I didn't really felt any gains, maybe because I was already used to how it feels like having a Race Header on the car. Another reason is probably because it's a 4-1 Race Header built for 9K+ RPM. As for sound, it's louder than the Buddy Club Race Header that I had on the car before, both at idle and driving. It is also the BEST sounding Race Header I've heard to date. It has a deep & aggressive sound. 4. Any threads you have made - Yes, but it got deleted 5. Any videos you have - Yes, SSR RH + Skunk2 70mm fly by. I will try to make one today with just the Race Header only 6. Any dyno graphs you have - Yes, a comparison of stock exhaust (Blue) vs open header (Red).

08-20-2009, 10:39 AM	#50 (permalink)
cuzzybubba1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Central FL Age: 30 Posts: 4,916 Jason	Nice.

08-20-2009, 05:06 PM	#53 (permalink)
fre$h si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston Mass Age: 23 Posts: 6,549	lol i know my bad i was in a rush at the time, but ow ok i didnt know they made both thanks for the info

08-20-2009, 05:41 PM	#54 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 25 Posts: 4,722 Ku	^^ yea, SSR makes both style header. the KiddRacing Header is identical to the SSR and as i've state in previous post, they will probably performs the same if you have a near stock engine. if someone is on a budget, KiddRacing is probably the way to go. if you have plans for a built motor, SSR is the better deal.

08-20-2009, 05:53 PM	#55 (permalink)
fre$h si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston Mass Age: 23 Posts: 6,549	but whyd u go from ssr to BC? and i mite be mistaken but didnt u have a s2 also?

08-20-2009, 06:17 PM	#56 (permalink)
Bboy_Burst Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 25 Posts: 4,722 Ku	no, i had BCRH for a month, i borrowed it from my friend. then later, i bought the SSR. never had the S2.

08-20-2009, 06:19 PM	#57 (permalink)
fre$h si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston Mass Age: 23 Posts: 6,549	o i see, i guess i gotta save up that cash

08-24-2009, 09:11 PM	#58 (permalink)
rizzoSi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Age: 22 Posts: 1,686	ok so i need a header that can pass emissions. i have a greddy ti-c cat back and a password jdm intake.. someone please help me out. i have searched this thread but havent really gotten a direct answer as to what my best bet is with a header that can pass emissions still. im in illinois. frickin tough to pass emissions!

08-24-2009, 09:16 PM	#59 (permalink)
fre$h si Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston Mass Age: 23 Posts: 6,549	only a comptech or megan shorty header will let u pass RH will always delete the cat

08-24-2009, 09:27 PM	#60 (permalink)
rizzoSi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Age: 22 Posts: 1,686	will i still get good performance by using a shorty header? also wont i need to get a downpipe then?

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