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Old 03-30-2008, 11:58 AM   #241 (permalink)
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Ugh. My CorSport order is on the way. SpacerCorSport Intake Manifold Heat Gasket, P2R Throttle Body Gasket, P2R Throttle Body are going to join my 18" HFP rims and K&N intake with nowhere to go.
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:41 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Ugh. My CorSport order is on the way. SpacerCorSport Intake Manifold, Heat Gasket P2R Throttle Body Gasket, P2R Throttle Body are going to join my 18" HFP rims and K&N intake with nowhere to go.
Send them to me. I'll give em back, I promise! How much did you get the wheels and tires for? (what tires did you end up going with?)
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:46 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Send them to me. I'll give em back, I promise! How much did you get the wheels and tires for? (what tires did you end up going with?)
Haha, I bought them off a guy on 8thCivic. He gave me a great deal. They came with Dunlop SP Sport FM901s. I might get some new tires if I get my car back.

If I decide to loan out the parts, you will be 1st on the list. :)
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:05 PM   #244 (permalink)
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At least you seem to be keeping in good spirits. I wouldn't be able to handle it with as much class as you.

I just watched the YouTube video. You seem like a real nice guy and I hope they get this taken care of for you.

BTW, it's funny that when you read the threads of Refbacks, most of them include at least one post saying something like, "Good! Civic's are ***!".

Hell, even the guys on the Toyota Matrix forum are smack talking the Civic! That takes some serious stones!

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Old 03-30-2008, 02:20 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:33 PM   #246 (permalink)
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12K in damages? seriously? need to see more pictures..

Watched your youtube video and the speaker harnesses in the door do not 'need' to be replaced. there are 2 or 4 wires there, that is it. half the people on this board that paid to get aftermarket spkrs installed are riding around in the same fashion as you. I agree that cutting the ductwork was moronic and not needed to fit that unit. no denying that. But why did you bring it into honda after all this time (if you already posted the answer sorry but too many pages to read). as for the radio harness, it can easily be spliced/soldered/taped back to stock condition. no different than if someone stole your stock radio and cut your harness off. honda would not replace your entire vehicle interior harness, they would splice in a new connector and send you on your way. ans every wire that is attached to that harness that is 'dangerous' by hondas standards has a fuse attached. if anything were to short out you would blow a fuse and thats it.

I can understand pulling the dash to replace the ductwork, but what actual damage was done to your windshield? cupholders? everything else? all ive seen is 2 pictures of an admittedly (sp?) poor wiring job behind the deck and a youtube clip saying the same. I could have the wiring for the deck, the door spkrs, and reinstall new door spkrs and dash tweeters all repaired in 3 hours tops. regardless of how shitty they did installing it.

I dont work for CC so dont care if they go bankrupt trying to pass this issue off. I just feel 12k is a little exteme. especially with such limited pictures to explain.

good luck tho
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I am the guy that sold my wheels to VTECnical, after meeting with him I know he is a good guy and that he wouldn't just be making all this up...I can imagine that the 12k it was estimated at comes from honda, we all know how expensive OEM parts are from them and not to mention the man hours.

As far as CC is concerned, if i were to take my car to a company that claims that they do "Professional Installs" I would expect them to know what they are doing, wouldn't you?

I have more to say, but have to go for now, when i get back i will finish saying what i wanted to...
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why does the electrical system need to be replaced? what reason did honda give? because the harness was cut at the radio? what do you mean "the doors need to be replaced"? the entire door? or just the cosmetic door panel? or the wiring for the door?

Im just trying to understand what the dealer has put into your head to get you so worried. I had the acura dealer near me straight up lie to a customer after an alarm install was completed. flat out lie, saying their "best" tech said it was the worst job he'd ever seen etc etc. til I showed up at the shop and talked to the tech and he admitted he couldnt find anything after market because the alarm was so well integrated. turned out the service writer scared the customer into thinking his whole truck needed to be replaced which was bs.


sorry for getting offtopic, but im curious what the dealer told you was wrong with the doors and electrical system.

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I am the guy that sold my wheels to VTECnical, after meeting with him I know he is a good guy and that he wouldn't just be making all this up...I can imagine that the 12k it was estimated at comes from honda, we all know how expensive OEM parts are from them and not to mention the man hours.

As far as CC is concerned, if i were to take my car to a company that claims that they do "Professional Installs" I would expect them to know what they are doing, wouldn't you?

I have more to say, but have to go for now, when i get back i will finish saying what i wanted to...
Definitely not trying to discount VTECnical's intentions. I just feel that Honda has overquoted a seemingly simple correction ( minus the ductwork).

And I do agree about lack of professional service from there, but as stated earlier, maybe CC shouldnt have fired off their qualified employees last year.
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Damn, its sooo blatantly obvious that CC is responsible for this mess, it pisses me off when I see this thread.
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:24 PM   #253 (permalink)
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I am the guy that sold my wheels to VTECnical, after meeting with him I know he is a good guy and that he wouldn't just be making all this up...I can imagine that the 12k it was estimated at comes from honda, we all know how expensive OEM parts are from them and not to mention the man hours.

As far as CC is concerned, if i were to take my car to a company that claims that they do "Professional Installs" I would expect them to know what they are doing, wouldn't you?

I have more to say, but have to go for now, when i get back i will finish saying what i wanted to...
Thanks for the kind words. Let me know how the suspension kit works out.
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I'm confused on one thing still: How did you discover the issues? Did the car have a problem, were you upgrading the components again, what???
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:32 PM   #255 (permalink)
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I'm submitting this to the Consumerist blog as a head's-up. Please submit this story to them ASAP as they are a major consumer issues blog and they HATE Circuit City.

The Consumerist: Shoppers Bite Back

You need exposure (like the ///M3 eBay story last week that was resolved to the customer's satisfaction) and it would also behoove you to lawyer up. However, that's your call.

Do not give up, do not settle, and do not accept intimidation and "we're not responsible" as an answer. They are responsible, it's just going to take some persuasion to get them to do the right thing. The internet is your friend...use it!

Barry
Actually, that saga isn't over just yet. The parent company's lawyer stepped in, and basically told Ken to stfu, then the dealership lawyer granted him more time, so basically 3 lawyers thus far, and the car hasn't been "sold" just yet. We are waiting for a supposed resolution on Monday.

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The entire electrical system needs to be replaced. The doors need to be replaced. The center council was broken off its mounts. It is more than a harness replacement.

I am not a Honda tech but I know they are not "repairing" anything. To restore the car back to OEM, they have to replace systems that have been damaged. Circuit City did a number on the car. The stock radio was cut up in the back. The AM/FM radio no longer works and so on... Honda has to replace systems to make the car safe to drive.

I'll let you know what the insurance agency says next week. I am just posting facts here. Last thing I want to do is overstate the damage done. I just want Circuit City to step up and help the guy they put in danger with a car that is not safe by Honda's standards...

If you are just restating what honda told you, then no worries. What worries me ( mainly because I install for a living, but not at CC), is that half of the internet has heard about this and has already assumed 12k in damages.

Surely you know what systems Honda feels need to be replaced to make the car safe to drive...? and i dont understand the "stock radio was cut up in teh back". maybe you just arent explaining it properly ( im assuming you mean the harness), but when I hear that i think they actually damaged your stock radio, which should have just been unplugged and removed. I understand there are probably things you cant speak on at the moment, but more explanation is definitely needed.

not trying to nitpick, but because of the exposure this has brought, people like myself are skeptical, not of you but of Honda. That service writer is prolly shitting bricks hoping he gets this ticket. meanwhile you are scared to drive a car that honestly doesnt sound like it is a hazard.
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Yeah, big corperations work in diffrent ways than small businesses. More hoops to jump through, more red tape, and such.

I, We, all feel for you and support your right to get this matter sorted.

But at this point, continuing to post about it is only going to make your heart hurt, your brain upset. Save yourself the stress, lay back, go take the girl somewhere nice or something and let the lawyers handle it. Besides, you do not want to make any slips that could hurt you're case or how a judge or jury may view you as a person.

But please post results. The internet wants to see how this ends.
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I think that is the way to go...
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:13 PM   #260 (permalink)
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I'm a little confused about one thing though. When did they install the unit and how did you find out everything was screwed up? Was your car undrivable from Circuit City or what? Also you said you got it installed with 800 miles on the odometer but the mileage on the estimate says 16116.
I'm still a little confused about this.

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