vw gti turbo stock or 06 si with CIA

[06RALLYREDSI]

whats faster in a quarter mile drag??

[skittleslegend]

Depends...Is the VW 6-spd or DSG? If it's DSG, it'll be close. Otherwise, the Civic with...uh...CAI. lol

[06RALLYREDSI]

i believe its a six speed. whats the diffrence between dsg and six speed

[skittleslegend]

DSG is like a Sport-tronic shift. It's manumatic on an entirely different level. It's kewl, but it's overhyped. I think it shifts in like .25 of a second which makes it faster than the 6 spd.

[06RALLYREDSI]

i have a stock si i ordered an aem cia for it and waiting for it to come in and some kid with a stock vw gti want to race me for 100 bucks and i would like to know my odds

[Silver8th]

Moved to the Garage Forum.:)

[aki]

With a CAI an Si will be faster. GTI's are a bit quicker in acceleration compared to a stock Si, but lose out in corners due to not having LSD.

[skittleslegend]

Originally Posted by aki

With a CAI an Si will be faster. GTI's are a bit quicker in acceleration compared to a stock Si, but lose out in corners due to not having LSD.

The fastest times for both cars stock that I've seen have been the same @ 14.8 seconds (consistent). The GTI with DSG is .1 second faster at 14.7 seconds. I didn't realize just how close these cars were to each other. It's pretty kewl.

The trap speeds on the stock Si's are high, but that 60ft. time is what keeps em from getting it lower. I think it's 2.6 seconds. I've heard 2.4 with the CAI.

[letsgoflyers81]

Originally Posted by skittleslegend

DSG is like a Sport-tronic shift. It's manumatic on an entirely different level. It's kewl, but it's overhyped. I think it shifts in like .25 of a second which makes it faster than the 6 spd.

DSG isn't really a manumatic at all. Sport-tronic, tiptronic, whatever you call it, it's just an automatic transmission that to a degree, you can control when to shift. DSG is completely different, it's a dual clutch manual that because of its design, there's no clutch pedal. I don't think it's overhyped at all. While transmissions like VW's DSG and BMW's SMG won't be replacing manuals, I can see similar setups replacing convential autos in the near future. It's faster than manual, allows the flexibility of driving like an auto, however it's still somewhat disconnected and doesn't provide the full manual transmission driving experience.

That said, I've never driven one, but I'd love to test drive a GTI with DSG.

[Trick000]

The DSG does shift quicker than the manual but the US version has the disadvantage of not having launch control.

[skittleslegend]

Originally Posted by letsgoflyers81

DSG isn't really a manumatic at all. Sport-tronic, tiptronic, whatever you call it, it's just an automatic transmission that to a degree, you can control when to shift. DSG is completely different, it's a dual clutch manual that because of its design, there's no clutch pedal. I don't think it's overhyped at all. While transmissions like VW's DSG and BMW's SMG won't be replacing manuals, I can see similar setups replacing convential autos in the near future. It's faster than manual, allows the flexibility of driving like an auto, however it's still somewhat disconnected and doesn't provide the full manual transmission driving experience.

That said, I've never driven one, but I'd love to test drive a GTI with DSG.

Speaking from an enthusiasts point of view (one who's driven manuals with the exception of the Legend I own), the DSG is quite overhyped. While tons better than the overly-complicated SMG system, it's not the God-send all the automags make it out to be (which sadly is what so many folks on these forums use to make decisions regarding car purchases...whatever happened to a good old fashioned test drive?). However, I do agree that eventually it will replace conventional automatics, and I highly doubt it will ever replace manual transmissions; although, stranger things have happened...

And I didn't mean manumatic in the sense that it's a true manumatic, like Nissan's manumatic in the Altima. However, like the tiptronic systems, it's a manumatic theory revolutionized (hype it but don't OVERhype it :) )

+1 on the disconnected feeling...drove the DSG-equipped GTI a few times and didn't like it at all. I found it a tad life-less, slightly boring and not as spirited, but perhaps it's just me. I preferred the 6spd GTI, which, btw, isn't nearly as good as the Si's 6spd.